what if u skip it

PRCHICK · 08-06-2007, 04:35 PM

is it harder to lose the weight on atkins if you skip induction?

LadyJulieAnn · 08-06-2007, 04:40 PM

Technically you aren't doing Atkins if you skip induction, but there are plenty of other plans out there that don't require an induction period.

cleochatra · 08-06-2007, 04:49 PM

A Low glycemic load plan doesn't require an opening phase. You just start out doing on day one what you'll do on day 10,000.

Induction is important because it helps you start from square one, both with weight loss, puts you in a meaningful state of lipolysis, and allows you to find out which foods were causing you problems to begin with. I love induction! It's tough, but wow! It's worth it!

JuliaL · 08-06-2007, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRCHICK

is it harder to lose the weight on atkins if you skip induction?

It depends. The purpose of induction is really to rid yourself of cravings, get into ketosis and jump start your weight loss. You can lose weight without doing induction, but induction serves a purpose. And it's only 2 weeks.

MarblesLongGone · 08-06-2007, 06:07 PM

Induction makes a controlled carb life easier. It's detox. Getting the crud out of your system, and out of your life makes it easier to stay away from it, one you have broken the cycle of empty carbs.

biglosser · 08-06-2007, 06:40 PM

I agree, its not Atkins if you don't do the induction phase.
Its only 2 weeks just get it over with.

Vikki

sugarless4life · 08-06-2007, 06:43 PM

Induction serves a great purpose in my opinion. It cleans the crap out of your system and helps you break the addiction to sugar and carbage. Skipping it will short-change the experience.

Betty

dae_tona · 08-07-2007, 07:36 AM

Because you have so little to lose & are wanting to maybe skip the Induction phase of Atkins, may I suggest his book Atkins for Life? (it is a great book for anyone who has less than 20 lbs to goal) On that program, you start out at 60 g of carbs and adjust accordingly - by either raising or lowering your carbs depending on if you're gaining or losing. I followed Atkins for Life and dropped 32 lbs in about 5 months.

Dyan

DiamondDeb · 08-07-2007, 07:53 AM

There are lots of great LC plans out there that don't require Induction. The one I chose was Protein Power. Never gave up fruit, never once worried about ketosis, just lost a lot of fat & weight.

wifezilla · 08-07-2007, 08:05 AM

I never did any kind of induction. I just started eating in a way I knew I could stick with for the rest of my life. Carbs are about 30-60 per day (mostly from veggies and some from berries), I eat a lot of good fats (coconut oil and evoo), and avoid grains and high fructose corn syrup like the plague.

heathershubby · 08-07-2007, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRCHICK

is it harder to lose the weight on atkins if you skip induction?

The problem as I see it is where do you start and how do you know how many barbs you can't and can have. what food you can and can't have. Do you think that it will be too hard is that why you want to skip it ?

2big4mysize · 08-07-2007, 03:18 PM

you could skip induction but that would be like building a house without a foundation. Think of your new way of eating following Dr Atkins plan for life like you would if you were building a new home for yourself.

You'd want a very strong foundation built of top quality material, with the best craftmanship you could find and allowed to cure for the proper amount of time so it could support the rest of the house for the rest of your life. that is what induction is about. (I'm sure You have checked out the other low carb plans and picked Atkins for your life long way of eating. )So you say I have a blueprint ( that would be Dr Atkins book) here for a making a healthier smaller me. First I need to stop eating those high carb junk foods. I need to learn to feed only my hunger, I need to learn to enjoy healthy fats and proteins, I need to make exercise a daily event for me and I need to rid my body of the foods and chemicals in them that I am addicted too like caffeine and sugar. I need to learn to enjoy the taste of real veggies without all that sugar.
Doing induction for those 14 days will buyild you a strong foundation on which you can continue framing your house with those OLW foods. It will also give you 2 very important pieces of information after 14 days what is your metabolic resistance level and what will range will your CCLL fall in.

You could skip Induction or make modifications in the rules, but then you don't have a proven blue print for success.

Happy low carbing

flourchild · 08-07-2007, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heathershubby

how do you know how many barbs you can't and can have.

Freudian slip?

Just4Me · 08-09-2007, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

you could skip induction but that would be like building a house without a foundation. Think of your new way of eating following Dr Atkins plan for life like you would if you were building a new home for yourself.

You'd want a very strong foundation built of top quality material, with the best craftmanship you could find and allowed to cure for the proper amount of time so it could support the rest of the house for the rest of your life. that is what induction is about. (I'm sure You have checked out the other low carb plans and picked Atkins for your life long way of eating. )So you say I have a blueprint ( that would be Dr Atkins book) here for a making a healthier smaller me. First I need to stop eating those high carb junk foods. I need to learn to feed only my hunger, I need to learn to enjoy healthy fats and proteins, I need to make exercise a daily event for me and I need to rid my body of the foods and chemicals in them that I am addicted too like caffeine and sugar. I need to learn to enjoy the taste of real veggies without all that sugar.
Doing induction for those 14 days will buyild you a strong foundation on which you can continue framing your house with those OLW foods. It will also give you 2 very important pieces of information after 14 days what is your metabolic resistance level and what will range will your CCLL fall in.

You could skip Induction or make modifications in the rules, but then you don't have a proven blue print for success.

Happy low carbing

2big (or anyone else), what is your opinion about the efficacy of doing an Atkins induction for someone who has been eating quite low carb? The last 10 days or so, I've eaten around 45-50 total carbs (not net). And before that, just general low carb (no sugar, no white stuff, no HFCS). Since 8/1 I dropped 10 lbs. But I'm interested in what you write here, it makes sense.

Do you think a formal induction would be useful in terms of determining my metabolic resistance, even if I've been eating relatively low carb the last few months?

ETA: more info---a year ago I followed a VLCD liquid protein PSMF. Lost 65. Health tanked (adrenals). In the process of healing over the last year, I've gained them all back plus another 8. Between 2003-2006, history of low carb (Atkins induction), off wagon, induction, off wagon, etc.

This experience with my adrenals has woken me up, fortunately, to health. But in terms of the benefits of formal Atkins induction--any thoughts on its efficacy for one with such a history as mine?

2big4mysize · 08-09-2007, 10:42 PM

since you are already lower carb your glycogen reserve loss during the initial days of the induction will not be as large so your total weight loss could be lower then the charts show for your level of metabolic resistnace but you never know till you try it.

Besides just following the rules for 14 days is a huge change in mind set. you are taking back control of your foods while following Dr Atkins rules ( his blue print) and resisting temptation at every turn. Many folk feel a great deal of pride and accomplishment in doing the full 14 days cheat free by the book. Survive 14 days of induction and you should be albel to do OWL with relative ease.

Just4Me · 08-09-2007, 10:47 PM

Thank you!

busyme · 08-22-2007, 06:38 PM

Myself, I love induction...gets you over cravings and like the others say gets the crap out of your system. Yet it seems to me that if you are lowering your carb intake and leaving out sugars (hidden carbs) how can you go wrong? A healthier food plan is just that healthier. Best of luck either way...Really, I love the no cravings and energy that induction gives...ooops, addiction showing.

08-06-2007, 04:35 PM	#1
PRCHICK Junior LCF Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 49 Gallery: PRCHICK Stats: 149/141/120 WOE: atkins Start Date: cheat free start date 8/31	what if u skip it is it harder to lose the weight on atkins if you skip induction?

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2big4mysize Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,959 Gallery: 2big4mysize Stats: 313 to current goalie 169-173 WOE: Atkins 2002 Start Date: june 1 2002	you could skip induction but that would be like building a house without a foundation. Think of your new way of eating following Dr Atkins plan for life like you would if you were building a new home for yourself. You'd want a very strong foundation built of top quality material, with the best craftmanship you could find and allowed to cure for the proper amount of time so it could support the rest of the house for the rest of your life. that is what induction is about. (I'm sure You have checked out the other low carb plans and picked Atkins for your life long way of eating. )So you say I have a blueprint ( that would be Dr Atkins book) here for a making a healthier smaller me. First I need to stop eating those high carb junk foods. I need to learn to feed only my hunger, I need to learn to enjoy healthy fats and proteins, I need to make exercise a daily event for me and I need to rid my body of the foods and chemicals in them that I am addicted too like caffeine and sugar. I need to learn to enjoy the taste of real veggies without all that sugar. Doing induction for those 14 days will buyild you a strong foundation on which you can continue framing your house with those OLW foods. It will also give you 2 very important pieces of information after 14 days what is your metabolic resistance level and what will range will your CCLL fall in. You could skip Induction or make modifications in the rules, but then you don't have a proven blue print for success. Happy low carbing __________________ 5/04 goalie Hashimoto hypothyroid diagnoised 02 kimkins info 2BIG's BLOG If you are or were a member of kimkins and live in San Diego County please help

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08-06-2007, 04:40 PM	#2
LadyJulieAnn Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 420 Gallery: LadyJulieAnn Stats: 265/239/150, pants 26-->22, tops 26-->18/20-14/16 WOE: livable low carb Start Date: 3/28/06, but not new to lowcarb	Technically you aren't doing Atkins if you skip induction, but there are plenty of other plans out there that don't require an induction period.

08-06-2007, 04:49 PM	#3
cleochatra Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 7,842 Gallery: cleochatra Stats: 350/264/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	A Low glycemic load plan doesn't require an opening phase. You just start out doing on day one what you'll do on day 10,000. Induction is important because it helps you start from square one, both with weight loss, puts you in a meaningful state of lipolysis, and allows you to find out which foods were causing you problems to begin with. I love induction! It's tough, but wow! It's worth it!

08-06-2007, 06:07 PM	#5
MarblesLongGone MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 2,387 Blog Entries: 2 Gallery: MarblesLongGone Stats: 248.5/206.0/190 6'0" WOE: Atkins / Carb Addicts / Schwarzbein / SB / Paleo / Start Date: April 1, 2008 (back on the wagon)	Induction makes a controlled carb life easier. It's detox. Getting the crud out of your system, and out of your life makes it easier to stay away from it, one you have broken the cycle of empty carbs.

08-06-2007, 06:40 PM	#6
biglosser MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Dixon, IL Posts: 1,646 Gallery: biglosser Stats: 154/138/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: February 24th, 2007	I agree, its not Atkins if you don't do the induction phase. Its only 2 weeks just get it over with. Vikki

08-06-2007, 06:43 PM	#7
sugarless4life Atkins Ambassador Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 9,372 Blog Entries: 1 Gallery: sugarless4life Stats: I EAT TO LIVE HEALTHY AND EXERCISE TO LIVE STRONG! WOE: Lost it with Atkins / RUNNING to keep it off! Start Date: January 19, 2002 - 6 YEARS ON ATKINS	Induction serves a great purpose in my opinion. It cleans the crap out of your system and helps you break the addiction to sugar and carbage. Skipping it will short-change the experience. Betty

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dae_tona MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Soon to be AZ!!!!!!!! Posts: 2,019 Gallery: dae_tona Stats: Size 18/Size 4 WOE: LC	Because you have so little to lose & are wanting to maybe skip the Induction phase of Atkins, may I suggest his book Atkins for Life? (it is a great book for anyone who has less than 20 lbs to goal) On that program, you start out at 60 g of carbs and adjust accordingly - by either raising or lowering your carbs depending on if you're gaining or losing. I followed Atkins for Life and dropped 32 lbs in about 5 months. Dyan

08-07-2007, 07:53 AM	#9
DiamondDeb Fat Burning Machine Extraordinaire! Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 40,248 Gallery: DiamondDeb WOE: Custom	There are lots of great LC plans out there that don't require Induction. The one I chose was Protein Power. Never gave up fruit, never once worried about ketosis, just lost a lot of fat & weight.

08-07-2007, 08:05 AM	#10
wifezilla Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 5,263 Gallery: wifezilla Stats: 250/207/190 WOE: Read em all. Doing it my way. Start Date: May 2007	I never did any kind of induction. I just started eating in a way I knew I could stick with for the rest of my life. Carbs are about 30-60 per day (mostly from veggies and some from berries), I eat a lot of good fats (coconut oil and evoo), and avoid grains and high fructose corn syrup like the plague.

08-09-2007, 10:42 PM	#15
2big4mysize Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,959 Gallery: 2big4mysize Stats: 313 to current goalie 169-173 WOE: Atkins 2002 Start Date: june 1 2002	since you are already lower carb your glycogen reserve loss during the initial days of the induction will not be as large so your total weight loss could be lower then the charts show for your level of metabolic resistnace but you never know till you try it. Besides just following the rules for 14 days is a huge change in mind set. you are taking back control of your foods while following Dr Atkins rules ( his blue print) and resisting temptation at every turn. Many folk feel a great deal of pride and accomplishment in doing the full 14 days cheat free by the book. Survive 14 days of induction and you should be albel to do OWL with relative ease.

08-09-2007, 10:47 PM	#16
Just4Me MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2006 Location: State of Grace Posts: 1,214 Gallery: Just4Me Stats: Despairing/ Trusting/Content WOE: knife+fork (and/or spoon)	Thank you!

08-22-2007, 06:38 PM	#17
busyme Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 430 Gallery: busyme Stats: 268/159/145 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 06/05/07 restart	Myself, I love induction...gets you over cravings and like the others say gets the crap out of your system. Yet it seems to me that if you are lowering your carb intake and leaving out sugars (hidden carbs) how can you go wrong? A healthier food plan is just that healthier. Best of luck either way...Really, I love the no cravings and energy that induction gives...ooops, addiction showing.