How much sugar is TOO much?

jadeca1 · 11-22-2004, 07:06 AM

Hello everyone,

I've recently started Atkins again for the second time. First time around I lost 40 lbs before I 'fell off' the plan and gained it all back.

It's been a week that I've been on induction, and I've lost 9 lbs so far, and I am doing good.

My question is, how much sugar is too much? I know that you're not supposed to have any sugar on the plan, and of course I haven't, but there is sugar in certain things and it seems unavoidable at times. For example, the cream that I use has 1 gram of carbs and 1 gram of sugar. The asparagus I buy has 1 gram of sugar. The salad dressing I use has 1 gram of sugar. There are sugars in certain other things I'm eating. Granted, it's only 1 to 2 grams max, but I was wondering if this would cause a problem. How much will it actually take before it starts affecting your blood sugar/weight loss and knocks you out of ketosis?
It's the only question I haven't been able to seem to find an answer to anywhere.
Additionally, I read somewhere that when you go on the Atkins plan, the first time is your 'golden shot.' The second time around, you're much more likely to either A) lose weight slower, or B) have a much harder time losing/keeping it off. Is this true?
Thanks in advance!!

farley109 · 11-22-2004, 03:56 PM

I am curious to see the answer to this question also. I am 7 weeks in and lost aprox 17lbs. I have been in several situations lately where I have eaten say a cookie or a cup cake. I wouldn't over indulge, but I would feel guilty. I would watch and make sure it was the only sugar I took in all day, but did I blow my entire diet by giving in? How long does it take to get that sugar out of my system. I made sure I picked the smallest cookie and/ or the smallest cupcake. HELP!!

Farley109

174/154/140

sunset · 11-22-2004, 05:41 PM

I personally think ANY sugar is too much. Just one cookie can possibly knock you out of ketosis. Or it can cause cravings, then look out. It is hard to find products that don't contain sugar, but they are out there you just have to keep looking. The more natural the food the less chance of added sugar being in it. Some of your products listed may have natural sugar, not added sugar. You still have to add those to your daily total of carbs. Be careful they can quickly add up. Hope this helps.

mephy · 11-22-2004, 08:30 PM

I think it really depends. The sugar you see listed in things like vegetables are naturally occuring (granted that nothing else has been added). I think it's a matter of avoiding refined added sugars. Eating small amounts of foods with less than 2g of sugar per serving should be OK for most people, though (dressings, mayo, etc.). Make sure to count them!

TigerSmoke · 11-25-2004, 07:48 AM

Those are naturally occuring sugars in the cream and veggies. Just count them as carbs and you will be fine.

Its the cornsyrup, and other added sugars you have to look out for!

jadeca1 · 11-29-2004, 06:41 PM

bump for the AN?!

Thanks for the responses btw, that's what I thought! I just want to make sure that I'm not taking in too much, even though it's no more than 2 grams of sugar per any serving of anything I have. (i.e., salad dressing, cream, etc.)

Atkins_Nutritionist · 11-30-2004, 07:57 AM

What you want to avoid totally is added sugar, this is different from natural sugar. There is a new presentation on the Atkins website that goes over this, may be helpful for you to take a look:
http://atkins.com/Archive/2004/11/22-453359.html

kcduffer · 11-30-2004, 08:03 AM

I've tried to look at this, but am unable to 'read' it. What do you need to read this?

Thanks

mephy · 11-30-2004, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kcduffer
I've tried to look at this, but am unable to 'read' it. What do you need to read this?

Thanks

Looks like a Microsoft Powerpoint File. You can get a free viewer here:

http://tinyurl.com/3nend

Atkins_Nutritionist · 12-02-2004, 08:00 AM

If you are still unable to view the presentation, here is some of the information in it that you will find:

Sugars listed here can be natural or added.

Naturally occurring sugars can come from milk (lactose), fruit (fructose) or grains (maltose). These sugars may be in Atkins products.

“Added sugars” will never be ingredients in Atkins® products.

If “added sugars” are present in products made by other manufacturers, they will be listed with other ingredients. Avoid products with added sugars such as sugar, corn syrup or sucrose.

lmt_24fan · 12-03-2004, 10:41 PM

I am curious about the answer to a question early in this thread -- how long (approx) does it take for consumed sugar to be "processed through" the body? Also, how much sugar "fills up" your glucose reserves?

I understand that everybody is probably different, but if I've been good, and eat a christmas cookie -- is that enough to fill my reserves?

Thanks.

Diana · 12-04-2004, 06:05 AM

Eating a Christmas cookie will not fill up the reserves, but it can knock you out of Ketosis (fat burning mode) at that time you will burn the Carbs first.

Here is Kimmers Siggy Line.....

The absolute rule is carbs are sugar. Good carbs or bad, they are all sugar. Your body will use the following in this exact order:

alcohol, then

carbs, then

protein, then

dietary fat, then finally

stored body fat
This is physiology and cannot be disputed. If you overeat alcohol, carbs, protein and dietary fat, then you won't lose body fat ... why would you?

If someone increases carbs and compensates by lowering calories (fat) it will "work" ... just as increasing calories (fat) and lowering carbs will "work".

charlott216 · 12-04-2004, 02:05 PM

I recently read, not related to low carbing at all, that the maximum amount of sugar a regular healthy person at a healthy weight should have is 4 teaspoons per day. I think I read that 4 grams is 1 teaspoon. So 16 grams per day. Doesn't seem like a lot to me. How many carbs in 1 tsp of sugar? just checked on fit day 4.2 carbs in 1 teaspoon. times that by 4 and you are looking at 16.8 grams of carbs.

Just thought it was interesting and thought I'd share.

11-22-2004, 07:06 AM	#1
jadeca1 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 1,200 Gallery: jadeca1 Stats: 218/206.6/125 -- 5'3 -- 28 yrs old WOE: Atkins Start Date: 2/21/07	How much sugar is TOO much? Hello everyone, I've recently started Atkins again for the second time. First time around I lost 40 lbs before I 'fell off' the plan and gained it all back. It's been a week that I've been on induction, and I've lost 9 lbs so far, and I am doing good. My question is, how much sugar is too much? I know that you're not supposed to have any sugar on the plan, and of course I haven't, but there is sugar in certain things and it seems unavoidable at times. For example, the cream that I use has 1 gram of carbs and 1 gram of sugar. The asparagus I buy has 1 gram of sugar. The salad dressing I use has 1 gram of sugar. There are sugars in certain other things I'm eating. Granted, it's only 1 to 2 grams max, but I was wondering if this would cause a problem. How much will it actually take before it starts affecting your blood sugar/weight loss and knocks you out of ketosis? It's the only question I haven't been able to seem to find an answer to anywhere. Additionally, I read somewhere that when you go on the Atkins plan, the first time is your 'golden shot.' The second time around, you're much more likely to either A) lose weight slower, or B) have a much harder time losing/keeping it off. Is this true? Thanks in advance!! __________________ ~~~Michele~~~ Quit smoking 2/21/2007! Big Goal - 125lbs by 9/1/2007 Mini goals: 214lbs by 3/2007:DONE! 200lbs by 4/2007: 186lbs by 5/2007: 170lbs by 6/2007: 156lbs by 7/2007: 141lbs by 8/2007: 125lbs by 9/2007: 100+ oz of water a day. 360 minutes on the elliptical in April. So far: 150 min! Last edited by jadeca1 : 11-22-2004 at 07:08 AM.

11-22-2004, 03:56 PM	#2
farley109 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,750 Gallery: farley109 Stats: 174/142/145 5'5 37 yrs WOE: all of the above...mainly 20 carbs or less per day Start Date: October 4, 2004 And Again 1/8/06 and again 9/10/07	I am curious to see the answer to this question also. I am 7 weeks in and lost aprox 17lbs. I have been in several situations lately where I have eaten say a cookie or a cup cake. I wouldn't over indulge, but I would feel guilty. I would watch and make sure it was the only sugar I took in all day, but did I blow my entire diet by giving in? How long does it take to get that sugar out of my system. I made sure I picked the smallest cookie and/ or the smallest cupcake. HELP!! Farley109 174/154/140 __________________ Tommie..... Mommy to....Tyanna 13....Katy 10...Trapper & Gunner 4 TWINS!! Careful what you wish for...Sometimes it comes in TWO"S... NEW GOAL....Maintain...Maintain...Maintain!!! PROUD MEMBER OF THE CHICKEN WING INVESTIGATION ASSOCIATION.....AGENT FARLEY AT YOUR SERVICE!!

12-04-2004, 06:05 AM	#12
Diana Allergic to Carbs- I break out in Fat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Anderson, Indiana Posts: 34,966 Gallery: Diana Stats: 176.5/138.8/134 (5'3") WOE: The Original Atkins Start Date: 8/11/03 Restart 4/08	Eating a Christmas cookie will not fill up the reserves, but it can knock you out of Ketosis (fat burning mode) at that time you will burn the Carbs first. Here is Kimmers Siggy Line..... The absolute rule is carbs are sugar. Good carbs or bad, they are all sugar. Your body will use the following in this exact order: alcohol, then carbs, then protein, then dietary fat, then finally stored body fat This is physiology and cannot be disputed. If you overeat alcohol, carbs, protein and dietary fat, then you won't lose body fat ... why would you? If someone increases carbs and compensates by lowering calories (fat) it will "work" ... just as increasing calories (fat) and lowering carbs will "work". __________________ Diana PROUD Member of The Sayonara CARBOnara Challenge 88 % to Goal Your day is not random. It is set by what you choose to live with. "Since I'm not on a diet, I can't go off of it." (AllieCat0817)

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11-22-2004, 05:41 PM	#3
sunset Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,017 Gallery: sunset	I personally think ANY sugar is too much. Just one cookie can possibly knock you out of ketosis. Or it can cause cravings, then look out. It is hard to find products that don't contain sugar, but they are out there you just have to keep looking. The more natural the food the less chance of added sugar being in it. Some of your products listed may have natural sugar, not added sugar. You still have to add those to your daily total of carbs. Be careful they can quickly add up. Hope this helps.

11-22-2004, 08:30 PM	#4
mephy MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: PA Posts: 1,394 Gallery: mephy Stats: 155/112/112 WOE: Atkins Maintenance Start Date: August 2002	I think it really depends. The sugar you see listed in things like vegetables are naturally occuring (granted that nothing else has been added). I think it's a matter of avoiding refined added sugars. Eating small amounts of foods with less than 2g of sugar per serving should be OK for most people, though (dressings, mayo, etc.). Make sure to count them!

11-25-2004, 07:48 AM	#5
TigerSmoke MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NC Posts: 1,603 Gallery: TigerSmoke Stats: 295/243.5/215 - 6'1" Male WOE: Atkins Re-Inducting Start Date: 11/29/2003	Those are naturally occuring sugars in the cream and veggies. Just count them as carbs and you will be fine. Its the cornsyrup, and other added sugars you have to look out for!

11-29-2004, 06:41 PM	#6
jadeca1 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 1,200 Gallery: jadeca1 Stats: 218/206.6/125 -- 5'3 -- 28 yrs old WOE: Atkins Start Date: 2/21/07	bump for the AN?! Thanks for the responses btw, that's what I thought! I just want to make sure that I'm not taking in too much, even though it's no more than 2 grams of sugar per any serving of anything I have. (i.e., salad dressing, cream, etc.)

11-30-2004, 07:57 AM	#7
Atkins_Nutritionist Nutritionist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atkins Health and Medical Information Services Posts: 684 Gallery: Atkins_Nutritionist	What you want to avoid totally is added sugar, this is different from natural sugar. There is a new presentation on the Atkins website that goes over this, may be helpful for you to take a look: http://atkins.com/Archive/2004/11/22-453359.html

11-30-2004, 08:03 AM	#8
kcduffer Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kansas Posts: 505 Gallery: kcduffer Stats: 168/152/135 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Sept. 2002	I've tried to look at this, but am unable to 'read' it. What do you need to read this? Thanks

12-02-2004, 08:00 AM	#10
Atkins_Nutritionist Nutritionist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atkins Health and Medical Information Services Posts: 684 Gallery: Atkins_Nutritionist	If you are still unable to view the presentation, here is some of the information in it that you will find: Sugars listed here can be natural or added. Naturally occurring sugars can come from milk (lactose), fruit (fructose) or grains (maltose). These sugars may be in Atkins products. “Added sugars” will never be ingredients in Atkins® products. If “added sugars” are present in products made by other manufacturers, they will be listed with other ingredients. Avoid products with added sugars such as sugar, corn syrup or sucrose.

12-03-2004, 10:41 PM	#11
lmt_24fan Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL Posts: 386 Gallery: lmt_24fan Stats: 194/GOOOOOOOAAAALLL/135 WOE: Atkins Start Date: July 2004	I am curious about the answer to a question early in this thread -- how long (approx) does it take for consumed sugar to be "processed through" the body? Also, how much sugar "fills up" your glucose reserves? I understand that everybody is probably different, but if I've been good, and eat a christmas cookie -- is that enough to fill my reserves? Thanks.

12-04-2004, 02:05 PM	#13
charlott216 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southern Ontario, Canada Posts: 204 Gallery: charlott216 Stats: 191+/172/125 Start Date: August 23, 2004	I recently read, not related to low carbing at all, that the maximum amount of sugar a regular healthy person at a healthy weight should have is 4 teaspoons per day. I think I read that 4 grams is 1 teaspoon. So 16 grams per day. Doesn't seem like a lot to me. How many carbs in 1 tsp of sugar? just checked on fit day 4.2 carbs in 1 teaspoon. times that by 4 and you are looking at 16.8 grams of carbs. Just thought it was interesting and thought I'd share.