Sugar alcohol danger?

Meerkat · 11-08-2004, 12:45 AM

Last Friday I had 1 advantage bar (1/2 s'mores, 1/2 mocha crunch). I tested positive for ketones (moderate-heavy) that evening. However I noticed a stiffening sensation in my neck when I started eating them. On Saturday, I had no choice but to substitute lunch with the remaining half mocha crunch bar. I had the same stiff feeling, and that evening, my ketostix was negative.

It's stayed negative or trace until this morning. I ate two endulge peanut butter cups in the afternoon because I have many packs which are expiring on the 16th nov. This time I started feeling light-headed and woozy. And even now I am slightly dizzy. The feeling is scary. Can someone explain why?

Do I have to restart induction all over again? And do I have to throw all the atkins bars and candies away?

Matt · 11-08-2004, 04:04 AM

because you cant really subtract the sugar alcohols. Every carb in that bar (except fiber) is still absorbed by your body, thats why you arent in ketosis anymore. Supposedly the carbs are just absorbed so slowly that they shouldnt effect your insulin levels, but they do.. espcially those bars with maltitol. You arent going to lose any weight eating those im sorry to say. Eat clean, and if you can.. please read the atkins books. Good luck!

11-08-2004, 07:03 PM

So sorry you experienced that meerkat..but a lesson well learned! Matt is right..those sorts of lc porducts are what a great number of us refer to as 'frankenfoods'. Eat REAL food..it's much better for you!

Good luck!!! :hug

Mandy

Meerkat · 11-08-2004, 08:02 PM

Uhm I am feeling the same way after eating 3 atkins banana nut muffins this morning. Could it be possible that I am experiencing a spike in blood sugar levels?

Can anyone tell me what symptoms are experienced during a blood sugar level spike? I am feeling light headed, slightly dizzy. Thank you!

11-08-2004, 08:16 PM

How long have you been low carbing? The products you keep mentioning ARE NOT for induction if you have just started..I don't eat these frankenfoods so I'm not able to tell you what a spike feels like..maybe someone else will be able to answer you on that...you are supposed to be avoiding insulin spikes..so stop eating lc products!

Meerkat · 11-09-2004, 05:57 AM

I have been on the atkins for 8 weeks now. I moved onto OWL after the first two weeks since I was 10lbs away from GW.

Atkins_Nutritionist · 11-09-2004, 08:45 AM

Meerkat,
Whole foods are central to meal planning on the Atkins Nutritional Approach. Products are for occasional use: for an occasional snack or meal replacement, or an occasional treat. Even on the occasions that you do include products, you should be eating them in moderation. Three muffins is not moderation. One muffin was formulated to provide an amount of sugar alcohols that will maintain the texture and taste of the muffin without compromising quality and without causing blood sugar spikes or GI effects, but it is likely that eating multiple serving will effect you. And even if your products are getting close to the expiration date, you still only want to include them on occasions.

Congrats on your progress so far and good luck reaching your goal weight. Keep in mind that maintenance is just as hard, if not harder, than the weight loss phases, especially if you have not learned the meal planning that will allow you to eat so that you will be keeping the weight off. Low carb meal planning is not about low carb products. It is about choosing whole foods wisely and in reasonable portions that are appropriate for your individual energy needs.

farley109 · 11-09-2004, 02:37 PM

I am 36 days into my low carb life style and have some confusion when in comes to net carbs. Do you really count net carbs or are most of you counting regular carbs. I am a sweetsaholic and have really taken a big step in cutting out my sugar and flour. I am from a country family that loves to cook and eat. When I feel I have to have something sweet, I will have a sugar free Russell Stover low carb treat. I try to only eat half and save the other half for the next day. Sometimes I will eat two tsps of cream cheese mixed with two tsps of cool whip and a pckg of splenda. What do you think. On average, I have lost between 14 and 17 lbs thus far. Exercing 3 to 4 days a week. Walking between 2 and 4 miles each time.

Matt · 11-10-2004, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by farley109
I am 36 days into my low carb life style and have some confusion when in comes to net carbs. Do you really count net carbs or are most of you counting regular carbs. I am a sweetsaholic and have really taken a big step in cutting out my sugar and flour. I am from a country family that loves to cook and eat. When I feel I have to have something sweet, I will have a sugar free Russell Stover low carb treat. I try to only eat half and save the other half for the next day. Sometimes I will eat two tsps of cream cheese mixed with two tsps of cool whip and a pckg of splenda. What do you think. On average, I have lost between 14 and 17 lbs thus far. Exercing 3 to 4 days a week. Walking between 2 and 4 miles each time.

Personally i count all carbs except fiber. When you eat something sugar alcohol, your body STILL absorbs those carbs.. just more slowly than it would regular sugar. If you can stick to your half servings and keep losing weight, then i see no reason to not eat it. It sounds like you are doing good so far. Good luck!

Meerkat · 11-12-2004, 12:39 AM

Thanks guys, I'll bekeeping off the atkins foods for a long time to come.

Atkins_Nutritionist · 11-29-2004, 08:52 AM

Meerkat,
There's no reason you have to avoid Atkins products or any other brand of carbohydrate controlled products, they are available to help you stick to your meal planning. The trick is to understand how to include these products into meal planning. In order to help you understand this, the Department of Education and Research has developed a presentation to clarify the the ingredients used in carbohydrate controlled products, how to read nutrition labels, and also about the Net Atkins Count. You can access this presentation at
http://atkins.com/Archive/2004/11/22-453359.html

11-08-2004, 12:45 AM	#1
Meerkat Junior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 49 Gallery: Meerkat Stats: 123/123/100 WOE: Atkins Induction Start Date: 18th June 2006	Sugar alcohol danger? Last Friday I had 1 advantage bar (1/2 s'mores, 1/2 mocha crunch). I tested positive for ketones (moderate-heavy) that evening. However I noticed a stiffening sensation in my neck when I started eating them. On Saturday, I had no choice but to substitute lunch with the remaining half mocha crunch bar. I had the same stiff feeling, and that evening, my ketostix was negative. It's stayed negative or trace until this morning. I ate two endulge peanut butter cups in the afternoon because I have many packs which are expiring on the 16th nov. This time I started feeling light-headed and woozy. And even now I am slightly dizzy. The feeling is scary. Can someone explain why? Do I have to restart induction all over again? And do I have to throw all the atkins bars and candies away?

11-08-2004, 04:04 AM	#2
Matt Resident Trans Fat Expert Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 5,177 Gallery: Matt Stats: 370/200/170 WOE: Low GI / south beach type diet Start Date: Low GI Started: 4-05	because you cant really subtract the sugar alcohols. Every carb in that bar (except fiber) is still absorbed by your body, thats why you arent in ketosis anymore. Supposedly the carbs are just absorbed so slowly that they shouldnt effect your insulin levels, but they do.. espcially those bars with maltitol. You arent going to lose any weight eating those im sorry to say. Eat clean, and if you can.. please read the atkins books. Good luck! Last edited by Matt : 11-08-2004 at 04:05 AM.

11-09-2004, 02:37 PM	#8
farley109 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,750 Gallery: farley109 Stats: 174/142/145 5'5 37 yrs WOE: all of the above...mainly 20 carbs or less per day Start Date: October 4, 2004 And Again 1/8/06 and again 9/10/07	I am 36 days into my low carb life style and have some confusion when in comes to net carbs. Do you really count net carbs or are most of you counting regular carbs. I am a sweetsaholic and have really taken a big step in cutting out my sugar and flour. I am from a country family that loves to cook and eat. When I feel I have to have something sweet, I will have a sugar free Russell Stover low carb treat. I try to only eat half and save the other half for the next day. Sometimes I will eat two tsps of cream cheese mixed with two tsps of cool whip and a pckg of splenda. What do you think. On average, I have lost between 14 and 17 lbs thus far. Exercing 3 to 4 days a week. Walking between 2 and 4 miles each time. __________________ Tommie..... Mommy to....Tyanna 13....Katy 10...Trapper & Gunner 4 TWINS!! Careful what you wish for...Sometimes it comes in TWO"S... NEW GOAL....Maintain...Maintain...Maintain!!! PROUD MEMBER OF THE CHICKEN WING INVESTIGATION ASSOCIATION.....AGENT FARLEY AT YOUR SERVICE!!

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11-08-2004, 07:03 PM	#3
MandyDee Guest Posts: n/a Gallery: MandyDee	So sorry you experienced that meerkat..but a lesson well learned! Matt is right..those sorts of lc porducts are what a great number of us refer to as 'frankenfoods'. Eat REAL food..it's much better for you! Good luck!!! :hug Mandy

11-08-2004, 08:02 PM	#4
Meerkat Junior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 49 Gallery: Meerkat Stats: 123/123/100 WOE: Atkins Induction Start Date: 18th June 2006	Uhm I am feeling the same way after eating 3 atkins banana nut muffins this morning. Could it be possible that I am experiencing a spike in blood sugar levels? Can anyone tell me what symptoms are experienced during a blood sugar level spike? I am feeling light headed, slightly dizzy. Thank you!

11-08-2004, 08:16 PM	#5
MandyDee Guest Posts: n/a Gallery: MandyDee	How long have you been low carbing? The products you keep mentioning ARE NOT for induction if you have just started..I don't eat these frankenfoods so I'm not able to tell you what a spike feels like..maybe someone else will be able to answer you on that...you are supposed to be avoiding insulin spikes..so stop eating lc products!

11-09-2004, 05:57 AM	#6
Meerkat Junior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 49 Gallery: Meerkat Stats: 123/123/100 WOE: Atkins Induction Start Date: 18th June 2006	I have been on the atkins for 8 weeks now. I moved onto OWL after the first two weeks since I was 10lbs away from GW.

11-09-2004, 08:45 AM	#7
Atkins_Nutritionist Nutritionist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atkins Health and Medical Information Services Posts: 684 Gallery: Atkins_Nutritionist	Meerkat, Whole foods are central to meal planning on the Atkins Nutritional Approach. Products are for occasional use: for an occasional snack or meal replacement, or an occasional treat. Even on the occasions that you do include products, you should be eating them in moderation. Three muffins is not moderation. One muffin was formulated to provide an amount of sugar alcohols that will maintain the texture and taste of the muffin without compromising quality and without causing blood sugar spikes or GI effects, but it is likely that eating multiple serving will effect you. And even if your products are getting close to the expiration date, you still only want to include them on occasions. Congrats on your progress so far and good luck reaching your goal weight. Keep in mind that maintenance is just as hard, if not harder, than the weight loss phases, especially if you have not learned the meal planning that will allow you to eat so that you will be keeping the weight off. Low carb meal planning is not about low carb products. It is about choosing whole foods wisely and in reasonable portions that are appropriate for your individual energy needs.

11-12-2004, 12:39 AM	#10
Meerkat Junior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 49 Gallery: Meerkat Stats: 123/123/100 WOE: Atkins Induction Start Date: 18th June 2006	Thanks guys, I'll bekeeping off the atkins foods for a long time to come.

11-29-2004, 08:52 AM	#11
Atkins_Nutritionist Nutritionist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atkins Health and Medical Information Services Posts: 684 Gallery: Atkins_Nutritionist	Meerkat, There's no reason you have to avoid Atkins products or any other brand of carbohydrate controlled products, they are available to help you stick to your meal planning. The trick is to understand how to include these products into meal planning. In order to help you understand this, the Department of Education and Research has developed a presentation to clarify the the ingredients used in carbohydrate controlled products, how to read nutrition labels, and also about the Net Atkins Count. You can access this presentation at http://atkins.com/Archive/2004/11/22-453359.html