....cannot do my regular run......

picaboo · 10-27-2004, 09:37 AM

......Last time I could not even finshed 10 min of run!!!!!...barly did it.
(from my regular 3-5 miles) and its not my legs nor my hreart - they felt & did well....its just....?........like-like...nothing in me.
Did not yet went back for my run since - this happen to me....(about 2 days ago)....(felt so misrable) :-(

A few examle of my days:
B:
1 egg
2 slices of cheese
coffee + 2 teas cream

Exercises:
5 miles walk/run-felt cant make it (bad)

L:
4 very small meatballs
3 slices of cheese
1-2 (?) fresh veggies salad

........and now I'm feeling hungry........:-(...
(have glass of water near me)
...Think....I will have something (?)............

S:
3-4 very samll meatballs dip in hot souse (I made)
1/4 cup tofu's dish
cup coffee + 2 tea cream
....felt so good to eat :-)))

D:
1 chicen breast
1-2 cup fresh veggies salad
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
B:
2 egg 2 bacon
1 Atkins' roll (warm form the oven and melt in your mouth)
Tea+ 2 tea cream

Exercies: (think) NON

L:
I can sardin in oil
Ffresh salad veggies
1 Atkins roll
Tea+2 t cream

S:1 Atkins roll
1 kiwi
A small piece of chesse

D:
1 Atkins roll + 2 t sour-cream
A piece (half plam of my hand)chichen breast
1-2(?) cup fresh veggie salad

Late night s: maybe (?)
.........Jello+ 2 tables cream
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -------------------- - - - - - - - - -
Exrecise:
3 mile walk (10 min run)

Late B:
1 wasa = 5 carb +
2t cottege cheese+1t (sugarfree) jam
(1/4 size plam)chicken breast
1c coffe+2t cream

L:
1 Atkins roll
2 poch eggs
(half plam size)chicken breast

S:2 kiwies

D: 1/2 plam hand chichen breast
1-2 Fresh veggie salad

S: Jello + a galup of cream on top
-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ---------------------- - - - - - - -
Drink only water all day.... (?)....
On the days - I dont forget - Im taking....1 Centrum A to Z

* the Atkins rolls are made form:
4 eggs, 2 tables cottegecheese+2 tea caraway seeds= 7 of them.

Atkins_Nutritionist · 10-27-2004, 10:35 AM

Picaboo,

Thanks for posting menus, will make it a lot easier to give some guidance. Did you just start Induction? If so, it may take a few days for your body to adjust to fat burning metabolism so that could be the cause of your initial lack of energy. As for the first menu, I would cut back on the amount of cheese. Maybe have a snack between breakfast and lunch, that way you won’t be so hungry for the snack after lunch. You may need to add that morning snack in so you never feel deprived, as it seems you do from your comment ‘it felt so good to eat’. And are you eating enough? You didn’t specify what size ‘very small’ meatballs are or what size chicken breast you ate. And in the second menu, ‘half palm of hand’ chicken breast doesn’t seem like it would be enough. You should always eat before exercise, which your third menu doesn’t reflect.

Specific recommendations would be to start eating 6 small meals, making sure you eat enough at each meal. You should never feel starving for your next meal. And take your multivitamin every day. You didn’t specify which veggies you choose, you may want to consider also taking a fiber supplement. And increase your veggies if it stays within your net carbs. What is your weight loss goal? And how many net carbs are you eating? And how much weight have you lost? Do you run 3-5 miles every day? You may want to consider mixing up your routine which may help speed up weight loss. Hope this helps!

picaboo · 10-27-2004, 02:06 PM

.........THANK SO MUCH....trying to help me here :-)

Today Im on my 13 day...Induction exactly (to the book I did only 6 days)...after I add a few things....on the 11 day...I weight myself...and was - 5....Im 200 - 5.5H...going to be...?....ha dreams...:-)....anything less - then now :-)))

I dont count my carbs every day (only when I find the mood for that. Dont like to deal with that the same as I dont want to deal counting calories.
For now knowing that SO many thing are not on my plate anymore and doing portion size...seems much for now.
I know I alway those things :
L & B - fresh veggies salad cut in small pieses like I use to back home(Israel)...all the veggies in world are there :-) (just kidding)
...(green onions, green leafs, 1 tomato, pepers, cucambers, relishes......did I miss something) :-)......
..I eat 2 kiwies a day or 1 apple
...sometimes add a few tables of cottege cheese
...4 tabl at the most cream
... 2-6 eggs a day.
....hard cheese....not really much...2-4 slice a day (if)

...Six samll meal - sound good! - started....already feel much
better inside :-))))......
...Cant eat much in the mornings - after my runs...I have not much appitied...but I will try........
...Usally in a good week - I do my run 5 to 6 day - early morning on empty sotmak....(read its burn more fat)
...Also doing gym - depend on my lazyness - 2-3 times a week - all budy lifiting.

.........The conclustions is.....6 small meal...and time-time :-)
Hope later on you would like to hear if that is working for me.

In between Im traveling back home...where are the *best ever* Falafels made.....(my love)....I will need to watch myself much :-)))))))....................

.........................THANKS

Atkins_Nutritionist · 10-28-2004, 07:32 AM

That's great that you are learning from the principles from the Atkins Nutritional Approach in order to make changes in your meal planning. Glad to hear you are feeling better already. But please try to eat something before you run in the mornings. Running on an empty stomach is like trying to drive a car with no gas in the tank. Good luck!

Lisa Rae · 10-28-2004, 07:54 AM

Pica..will leave the menu alone..but will comment on just the runing part. I started running about 4 weeks ago. I was told to either eat 2 hours before (and I run at around 7-7:30 am) or 1/2 hour after for best results. I was having breakfast first..then running..and not feeling real good. I started to wait and eat 1/2 hour after this last week..and it made a huge huge diffrence. Yeah..I wake a bit hungry..but eating at 5:30 was just way too early for me. Since waiting untill after..I feel much better on my run..more energy..stomach hunger sems to lessen once I'm going..and overall...I'm runing much beter.

So..not sure if your waiting 2 hurs after a meal to exercise..and if you are..then maybe try to wait and eat after and see if it helps

picaboo · 10-28-2004, 12:27 PM

............ Thanks much AN.

Lisa........Are you running also on empty stomak early morning....is it right? -....that what I used to do before I started LC.

.......This morning I did something different I ate B. before...like 1 wasa crecker + 1 t (sugar- free jam) 2eggs....waited (?)....and them went to do my run....was a - little bet - bettter....But still it's not myself and also during the day no much energy......wonder if there is any conection to blood-sugar ?....and I really hope as AN said - it's just TIME !!! :-))))))))

Lisa Rae · 10-28-2004, 06:50 PM

Pica,

Yeah..basically I am. I've been wlking through most of my loss and do yoga 3 nights a week..but relly wnted to start exercising on a regular basis...This is one are I have struggled with over my 4 years of low-carbing! I started ut by just walking fast the first week..but decided I could do more. I then started to walk 15 min..run for 15 and then 5 cool down walk. I'm now up to about 10 min walking..30-45 min. run and 5-10 cool down. I tried every way to et before..small meals..or just protein..and I always felt like I was going to throw-up 1/4 way into my run. I also felt like my legs we're made of led!

So I started to run first thing am beofre eating. I am hungry when I start..but after about 10 min it goes away. I then eat 20-30 min after I get back. It's worked great! I don't feel sick when running..and I feel much lighter in my tennies

picaboo · 10-29-2004, 05:24 PM

Dear Lisa
......Thanks for sharing....and you are doing great and I envy you on your weight lose :-).
I know all about that (run/walk) :-)....the best ever feeling - AFTER ...:-))))
.....I dont think I will give up on that......run-maybe..(?)....walking-never..........:-)))
....................Hope the same if for you.....:-)

Melle's_Sweetheart · 11-11-2004, 09:30 AM

Quote:

..I eat 2 kiwies a day or 1 apple

Are you on Atkin's induction? If so, you're not allowed fruit on induction....

Are you taking your supplements? You could feel the way you describe if you're not getting a good potassium supplement.

ginabw · 11-15-2004, 09:50 AM

I don't run in the mornings anymore, but when I did I always did it on an empty stomach, and now I do my runs in the evening when the kids are in bed and I know I have to wait at least 2 hours after I've eaten, the longer the better, or otherwise I get some very bad cramps.

And I was exhausted when I first started Atkins too, couldn't get through my workouts, and was just very tired. Lasted 6 weeks! But then finally regained my strength, and it was worth it.

If you are in the early stages of Atkins, I would not eat the rolls, apples, or kiwis, and less cheese and more meat and veggies. If you must eat fruit, go for the berries.

Cheers!

10-27-2004, 09:37 AM	#1
picaboo Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: TX Posts: 65 Gallery: picaboo Start Date: 10/14/04	....cannot do my regular run...... ......Last time I could not even finshed 10 min of run!!!!!...barly did it. (from my regular 3-5 miles) and its not my legs nor my hreart - they felt & did well....its just....?........like-like...nothing in me. Did not yet went back for my run since - this happen to me....(about 2 days ago)....(felt so misrable) :-( A few examle of my days: B: 1 egg 2 slices of cheese coffee + 2 teas cream Exercises: 5 miles walk/run-felt cant make it (bad) L: 4 very small meatballs 3 slices of cheese 1-2 (?) fresh veggies salad ........and now I'm feeling hungry........:-(... (have glass of water near me) ...Think....I will have something (?)............ S: 3-4 very samll meatballs dip in hot souse (I made) 1/4 cup tofu's dish cup coffee + 2 tea cream ....felt so good to eat :-))) D: 1 chicen breast 1-2 cup fresh veggies salad - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - B: 2 egg 2 bacon 1 Atkins' roll (warm form the oven and melt in your mouth) Tea+ 2 tea cream Exercies: (think) NON L: I can sardin in oil Ffresh salad veggies 1 Atkins roll Tea+2 t cream S:1 Atkins roll 1 kiwi A small piece of chesse D: 1 Atkins roll + 2 t sour-cream A piece (half plam of my hand)chichen breast 1-2(?) cup fresh veggie salad Late night s: maybe (?) .........Jello+ 2 tables cream - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -------------------- - - - - - - - - - Exrecise: 3 mile walk (10 min run) Late B: 1 wasa = 5 carb + 2t cottege cheese+1t (sugarfree) jam (1/4 size plam)chicken breast 1c coffe+2t cream L: 1 Atkins roll 2 poch eggs (half plam size)chicken breast S:2 kiwies D: 1/2 plam hand chichen breast 1-2 Fresh veggie salad S: Jello + a galup of cream on top -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ---------------------- - - - - - - - Drink only water all day.... (?).... On the days - I dont forget - Im taking....1 Centrum A to Z * the Atkins rolls are made form: 4 eggs, 2 tables cottegecheese+2 tea caraway seeds= 7 of them. Last edited by picaboo : 10-27-2004 at 09:58 AM.

10-27-2004, 02:06 PM	#3
picaboo Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: TX Posts: 65 Gallery: picaboo Start Date: 10/14/04	.........THANK SO MUCH....trying to help me here :-) Today Im on my 13 day...Induction exactly (to the book I did only 6 days)...after I add a few things....on the 11 day...I weight myself...and was - 5....Im 200 - 5.5H...going to be...?....ha dreams...:-)....anything less - then now :-))) I dont count my carbs every day (only when I find the mood for that. Dont like to deal with that the same as I dont want to deal counting calories. For now knowing that SO many thing are not on my plate anymore and doing portion size...seems much for now. I know I alway those things : L & B - fresh veggies salad cut in small pieses like I use to back home(Israel)...all the veggies in world are there :-) (just kidding) ...(green onions, green leafs, 1 tomato, pepers, cucambers, relishes......did I miss something) :-)...... ..I eat 2 kiwies a day or 1 apple ...sometimes add a few tables of cottege cheese ...4 tabl at the most cream ... 2-6 eggs a day. ....hard cheese....not really much...2-4 slice a day (if) ...Six samll meal - sound good! - started....already feel much better inside :-))))...... ...Cant eat much in the mornings - after my runs...I have not much appitied...but I will try........ ...Usally in a good week - I do my run 5 to 6 day - early morning on empty sotmak....(read its burn more fat) ...Also doing gym - depend on my lazyness - 2-3 times a week - all budy lifiting. .........The conclustions is.....6 small meal...and time-time :-) Hope later on you would like to hear if that is working for me. In between Im traveling back home...where are the best ever Falafels made.....(my love)....I will need to watch myself much :-))))))).................... .........................THANKS Last edited by picaboo : 10-27-2004 at 02:21 PM.

10-28-2004, 07:54 AM	#5
Lisa Rae Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, Ca Posts: 10,271 Gallery: Lisa Rae Stats: 250+/???/150 WOE: Atkins or Bust! Also Smoke Free! Start Date: September 15th, 2000	Pica..will leave the menu alone..but will comment on just the runing part. I started running about 4 weeks ago. I was told to either eat 2 hours before (and I run at around 7-7:30 am) or 1/2 hour after for best results. I was having breakfast first..then running..and not feeling real good. I started to wait and eat 1/2 hour after this last week..and it made a huge huge diffrence. Yeah..I wake a bit hungry..but eating at 5:30 was just way too early for me. Since waiting untill after..I feel much better on my run..more energy..stomach hunger sems to lessen once I'm going..and overall...I'm runing much beter. So..not sure if your waiting 2 hurs after a meal to exercise..and if you are..then maybe try to wait and eat after and see if it helps __________________ 250++/???/150 Quit smoking and gained 35 back!! Working towards goal once again ( Still not smoking though! Woo Hoo) Atkins for Life! "I'm not Bad, I'm just drawn that Way!"..Jessica Rabbit

10-28-2004, 12:27 PM	#6
picaboo Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: TX Posts: 65 Gallery: picaboo Start Date: 10/14/04	............ Thanks much AN. Lisa........Are you running also on empty stomak early morning....is it right? -....that what I used to do before I started LC. .......This morning I did something different I ate B. before...like 1 wasa crecker + 1 t (sugar- free jam) 2eggs....waited (?)....and them went to do my run....was a - little bet - bettter....But still it's not myself and also during the day no much energy......wonder if there is any conection to blood-sugar ?....and I really hope as AN said - it's just TIME !!! :-)))))))) Last edited by picaboo : 10-28-2004 at 12:30 PM.

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10-27-2004, 10:35 AM	#2
Atkins_Nutritionist Nutritionist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atkins Health and Medical Information Services Posts: 684 Gallery: Atkins_Nutritionist	Picaboo, Thanks for posting menus, will make it a lot easier to give some guidance. Did you just start Induction? If so, it may take a few days for your body to adjust to fat burning metabolism so that could be the cause of your initial lack of energy. As for the first menu, I would cut back on the amount of cheese. Maybe have a snack between breakfast and lunch, that way you won’t be so hungry for the snack after lunch. You may need to add that morning snack in so you never feel deprived, as it seems you do from your comment ‘it felt so good to eat’. And are you eating enough? You didn’t specify what size ‘very small’ meatballs are or what size chicken breast you ate. And in the second menu, ‘half palm of hand’ chicken breast doesn’t seem like it would be enough. You should always eat before exercise, which your third menu doesn’t reflect. Specific recommendations would be to start eating 6 small meals, making sure you eat enough at each meal. You should never feel starving for your next meal. And take your multivitamin every day. You didn’t specify which veggies you choose, you may want to consider also taking a fiber supplement. And increase your veggies if it stays within your net carbs. What is your weight loss goal? And how many net carbs are you eating? And how much weight have you lost? Do you run 3-5 miles every day? You may want to consider mixing up your routine which may help speed up weight loss. Hope this helps!

10-28-2004, 07:32 AM	#4
Atkins_Nutritionist Nutritionist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atkins Health and Medical Information Services Posts: 684 Gallery: Atkins_Nutritionist	That's great that you are learning from the principles from the Atkins Nutritional Approach in order to make changes in your meal planning. Glad to hear you are feeling better already. But please try to eat something before you run in the mornings. Running on an empty stomach is like trying to drive a car with no gas in the tank. Good luck!

10-28-2004, 06:50 PM	#7
Lisa Rae Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, Ca Posts: 10,271 Gallery: Lisa Rae Stats: 250+/???/150 WOE: Atkins or Bust! Also Smoke Free! Start Date: September 15th, 2000	Pica, Yeah..basically I am. I've been wlking through most of my loss and do yoga 3 nights a week..but relly wnted to start exercising on a regular basis...This is one are I have struggled with over my 4 years of low-carbing! I started ut by just walking fast the first week..but decided I could do more. I then started to walk 15 min..run for 15 and then 5 cool down walk. I'm now up to about 10 min walking..30-45 min. run and 5-10 cool down. I tried every way to et before..small meals..or just protein..and I always felt like I was going to throw-up 1/4 way into my run. I also felt like my legs we're made of led! So I started to run first thing am beofre eating. I am hungry when I start..but after about 10 min it goes away. I then eat 20-30 min after I get back. It's worked great! I don't feel sick when running..and I feel much lighter in my tennies

10-29-2004, 05:24 PM	#8
picaboo Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: TX Posts: 65 Gallery: picaboo Start Date: 10/14/04	Dear Lisa ......Thanks for sharing....and you are doing great and I envy you on your weight lose :-). I know all about that (run/walk) :-)....the best ever feeling - AFTER ...:-)))) .....I dont think I will give up on that......run-maybe..(?)....walking-never..........:-))) ....................Hope the same if for you.....:-)

11-15-2004, 09:50 AM	#10
ginabw MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,354 Gallery: ginabw Stats: 159lb to 123lb 5ft 8in WOE: Atkins Maintenance since 2/10/04 Start Date: 11/10/03	I don't run in the mornings anymore, but when I did I always did it on an empty stomach, and now I do my runs in the evening when the kids are in bed and I know I have to wait at least 2 hours after I've eaten, the longer the better, or otherwise I get some very bad cramps. And I was exhausted when I first started Atkins too, couldn't get through my workouts, and was just very tired. Lasted 6 weeks! But then finally regained my strength, and it was worth it. If you are in the early stages of Atkins, I would not eat the rolls, apples, or kiwis, and less cheese and more meat and veggies. If you must eat fruit, go for the berries. Cheers!