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SkinnyB212 09-15-2013 12:01 PM

WHY IS THIS NOT WORKING!!!!!
 
HELP!!!
I am working out daily (jogging or p90x) before breakfast on an empty stomach.
I am counting my carbs religiously & not going over 30g a day.
Why is the weight just not falling off? I see people losing 1 lb a day or 10 lbs a week & I wonder what I am doing wrong.
I started in August at 200 & am now 187-190 depending on the day I weigh.
Is working out killing my diet?
I am a muscular person & fear that all this working out is making me gain weight!
Yes my clothes do feel loose, but my measurements have only gone down a couple inches.

Anyone successfully dropping pounds and inches on a weekly basis:
1. Sample daily menu?
2. How long do you work out for daily?
3. Day or evening workout?
4. What do you eat after your workout?
5. Do you wait 1/2 hour after you workout?

I just need some help since I think I have reached a plateau despite working out daily for 45 minutes with a combo of jogging or p90x.

Why is the weight just not falling off?

I lost more weight back in the day, when I was not exercising & starving myself!

BulldogMom 09-15-2013 01:42 PM

When I do my workout varies depending on the day. But it doesn't seem to make a difference in my losses. As far as the menu goes, I strictly stick to the induction foods list in the '92 version of Atkins. If I try and get creative with my recipes or eat outside of that list, I gain weight the next day. Probably just water weight some of the times but I'm not at a place where I want to see any gain. I know at one point you were making shakes. I forgot what was in them but I know for me, dairy will stall me. I keep my meals so simple. For instance, cabbage is boiled in water and eaten with vinegar. Meats are eaten with mayo, mustard or butter. I just keep things as simple as possible. Its the only thing that works for me. The most complicated recipe that I've done and doesn't stall me is the fat bombs. But this is just my experience and I know others haven't had any issues with a wide variety of foods.

SkinnyB212 09-15-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BulldogMom (Post 16605491)
When I do my workout varies depending on the day. But it doesn't seem to make a difference in my losses. As far as the menu goes, I strictly stick to the induction foods list in the '92 version of Atkins. If I try and get creative with my recipes or eat outside of that list, I gain weight the next day. Probably just water weight some of the times but I'm not at a place where I want to see any gain. I know at one point you were making shakes. I forgot what was in them but I know for me, dairy will stall me. I keep my meals so simple. For instance, cabbage is boiled in water and eaten with vinegar. Meats are eaten with mayo, mustard or butter. I just keep things as simple as possible. Its the only thing that works for me. The most complicated recipe that I've done and doesn't stall me is the fat bombs. But this is just my experience and I know others haven't had any issues with a wide variety of foods.

Thanks for responding.
My recipes are very simple also.
Grill chicken or steaks with no sauces.
My shakes are made with Almond or Coconut Milk which is non dairy & only 2g carbs.
I drink a gallon of water a day.
I work out 5-6 days a week alternating between jogging & p90x and take 2 days off for my muscles to recover.
I do not eat any atkins bars.
I am just at a loss for words for why I am not dropping weight like others.

luckymuma 09-15-2013 04:35 PM

I think weightloss is totally individual. Some of us loose fast, others slower. I'm a slow looser, despite keeping carbs to between 15 and 21g a day, watching my protein intake and ensuring I have enough fats. 5w in and only 11lbs down. I don't think you can 'make' yourself lose weight fast if you're not going to. There are some tips and tricks like fat fasts, intermittent fasting or meat and egg fasts that seem to help some people a little, but I think some of us are just stuck with a slow loss rate. I think from your stats, we have a similar rate of weightloss. We will both get there, we all will, it will just be in our own time.

SkinnyB212 09-15-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by luckymuma (Post 16605709)
I think weightloss is totally individual. Some of us loose fast, others slower. I'm a slow looser, despite keeping carbs to between 15 and 21g a day, watching my protein intake and ensuring I have enough fats. 5w in and only 11lbs down. I don't think you can 'make' yourself lose weight fast if you're not going to. There are some tips and tricks like fat fasts, intermittent fasting or meat and egg fasts that seem to help some people a little, but I think some of us are just stuck with a slow loss rate. I think from your stats, we have a similar rate of weightloss. We will both get there, we all will, it will just be in our own time.

THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT

cb83 09-15-2013 09:46 PM

What kind if protein/fat intake are you doing?

What exactly are you eating for your meals?

BulldogMom 09-16-2013 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyB212 (Post 16605707)
Thanks for responding.
My recipes are very simple also.
Grill chicken or steaks with no sauces.
My shakes are made with Almond or Coconut Milk which is non dairy & only 2g carbs.
I drink a gallon of water a day.
I work out 5-6 days a week alternating between jogging & p90x and take 2 days off for my muscles to recover.
I do not eat any atkins bars.
I am just at a loss for words for why I am not dropping weight like others.

I remember there being another thread where a guy was having similar issues as you. He cut back on the amount of time he worked out and was able to drop weight after that. I keep my jogging/walking routine to 30 min a day. I seem to be good with that. I know that the p90x program helps you to put on muscle but I think you've been doing this long enough that the weight loss should have picked up by now. I'm at a loss for you too and will be interested to see what others say.

SkinnyB212 09-16-2013 08:35 AM

Sample daily menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cb83 (Post 16605989)
What kind if protein/fat intake are you doing?

What exactly are you eating for your meals?

Post workout
Whey protein shake + almond milk

Breakfast
2 eggs scrambled with olive oil
4 slices of bacon

Lunch
Grilled chicken breast with minimum salt & pepper
Small salad - 2 cups arugula or spinach, mini cucumber, 5 cherry tomatoes, 1/4 of haas avocado + ceasar dressing or oil vinagarette dressing

Dinner
Steak fillet or Salmon Fillet 8oz grilled
Vegetable stir fry with 2 cups kale or spinach & mushrooms

Snack
Ham & Salami roll ups with mayo & slice of celery
Chicken Wings

cb83 09-16-2013 11:18 AM

Yeah, looks pretty good! I'd just aim for 65/30/5 fat protein carb macros, so use one of those online calculators. I took almond milk out of my post workout because it made me stall or gain. Water w it helps absorb into muscles etc faster, recovering them better. You going induction or just low carb?

SkinnyB212 09-16-2013 06:39 PM

Almond Milk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cb83 (Post 16606783)
Yeah, looks pretty good! I'd just aim for 65/30/5 fat protein carb macros, so use one of those online calculators. I took almond milk out of my post workout because it made me stall or gain. Water w it helps absorb into muscles etc faster, recovering them better. You going induction or just low carb?

Thanks for advice.
I will try water in my shakes instead & see if that helps.

160orbust 09-17-2013 06:00 AM

Anyone successfully dropping pounds and inches on a weekly basis:
1. Sample daily menu?

Bfast: coffee with 1 splenda and 1 tblsp hwc
1 and 1/2 egg sausage muffins

lunch: leftover steak and shrimp scampi, broccoli

dinner: pork roast & side salad, ranch dressing

snack: pepperoni slices & cheese or jello w/whipped cream

2. How long do you work out for daily?
alternate insanity (at least 3 x per week) and zumba 1 hour one day and walking @ 4mph for 35 mins & @ 2.5mph for 5 mins warm-up and cool-down on the other day...two staggered days off

3. Day or evening workout?
I have acquired the hunting & gathering mentality and work out before my biggest meal of the day, which is supper. Coincidently, between work and supper is also the time that I have the strongest metallic taste in my mouth.

4. What do you eat after your workout?
high quality protein (jay robb) with water and a splash of hwc for the fat.

5. Do you wait 1/2 hour after you workout?
no, during my workout my shake is in the freezer getting nice and cold and I finish my 64 oz water jug if I didn't finish during my workout and then drink my shake right afterwards.


since my restart in January, I went from 234 lbs to 184 lbs, my body fat has gone from 43.8% to 29.4% and my muscle has gone from 27.6% to 31.8%

SkinnyB212 09-21-2013 09:28 PM

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The scale has not budged, but I am now wearing skinny jeans I could not fit into 2 months ago! I guess my body just reacts differently.

luckymuma 09-21-2013 10:29 PM

My scale losses are NOT reflective of my clothing losses, or my measurement losses. Scales move much slower!

SkinnyB212 09-22-2013 06:57 AM

HWC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 160orbust (Post 16607791)
Anyone successfully dropping pounds and inches on a weekly basis:
1. Sample daily menu?

Bfast: coffee with 1 splenda and 1 tblsp hwc
1 and 1/2 egg sausage muffins

lunch: leftover steak and shrimp scampi, broccoli

dinner: pork roast & side salad, ranch dressing

snack: pepperoni slices & cheese or jello w/whipped cream

2. How long do you work out for daily?
alternate insanity (at least 3 x per week) and zumba 1 hour one day and walking @ 4mph for 35 mins & @ 2.5mph for 5 mins warm-up and cool-down on the other day...two staggered days off

3. Day or evening workout?
I have acquired the hunting & gathering mentality and work out before my biggest meal of the day, which is supper. Coincidently, between work and supper is also the time that I have the strongest metallic taste in my mouth.

4. What do you eat after your workout?
high quality protein (jay robb) with water and a splash of hwc for the fat.

5. Do you wait 1/2 hour after you workout?
no, during my workout my shake is in the freezer getting nice and cold and I finish my 64 oz water jug if I didn't finish during my workout and then drink my shake right afterwards.


since my restart in January, I went from 234 lbs to 184 lbs, my body fat has gone from 43.8% to 29.4% and my muscle has gone from 27.6% to 31.8%

Thanks for sharing.
Btw what is HWC?

melisa82 09-22-2013 12:15 PM

HWC=Heavy Whipping Cream

nspeedracer 09-22-2013 07:08 PM

are you on any meds or birth control now?
i wouldnt worry if you are losing 1-2 pounds a week.
maybe ditch the scale, seems like the numbers are getting too much attention. it takes time. learn to cook new recipes concentrate on other stuff, the fat is being burnt, the muscles are being toned. just give it time and focus on lifestyle not numbers. youre doing great!

SkinnyB212 09-23-2013 07:37 AM

"F the scale!!!"
 
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Originally Posted by nspeedracer (Post 16615330)
are you on any meds or birth control now?
i wouldnt worry if you are losing 1-2 pounds a week.
maybe ditch the scale, seems like the numbers are getting too much attention. it takes time. learn to cook new recipes concentrate on other stuff, the fat is being burnt, the muscles are being toned. just give it time and focus on lifestyle not numbers. youre doing great!

Thanks. It can be so obessive getting on the scale.
Also, there is this website that shows various peoples stats (at the same height and weight) and each person looks different despite having the same height/weight ratio.
Nurses at the doctor's office always make me go on the scale twice and they appear shocked at how much the scale says, and some have even said, "you do not look like you weigh...".
I am now focussed on my waist, hips and thigh measurements, since that is where I need to lose the weight! Depite being 188 and considered "obese" by the BMI calculator, I am now in a size 10 jeans and my goal is to fit back in a size 4 or 6.

SkinnyB212 09-28-2013 09:00 AM

Finally losing weight & inches!!!
 
I was hoping to reach 180 in Sept, but I am elated that I stopped stalling & lost 4 lbs to reach 184! Thanks for all the advice regarding almond milk & cheese. I also switched to low sodium bacon. My goal is to get to 170 in October!

cb83 09-28-2013 10:34 AM

That's great! I wish I would break through to the next level here before next year. No damn time for the gym anymore, time to hit the bow flex up again.

Patience 09-28-2013 10:49 AM

Glad to hear it is working!

SkinnyB212 09-30-2013 11:04 AM

Handful of semi sweet chocolate chips!
 
I do get sweet cravings, especially at TOM.
Atkins bars have 19g carbs, even though they say there are only 3g net carbs, they still seem to cause stalling.
So I have about 8 semi-sweet chocolate chips which is just 4g carbs.
It satisfies my sweet tooth & so far so good.
Anyone else try these?

(I just do not have the time or patience to make "fat bombs")

margn 10-01-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyB212 (Post 16605707)
Thanks for responding.
My recipes are very simple also.
Grill chicken or steaks with no sauces.
My shakes are made with Almond or Coconut Milk which is non dairy & only 2g carbs.
I drink a gallon of water a day.
I work out 5-6 days a week alternating between jogging & p90x and take 2 days off for my muscles to recover.
I do not eat any atkins bars.
I am just at a loss for words for why I am not dropping weight like others.

Try eliminating the milks . It can cause stalls. and the whey protein are also causes for stalls. At least they have been for me

cb83 10-01-2013 07:47 PM

I would think the real sugars in the chocolate chips would affect you worse/stall than the atkins bars with basically sugar alcohols. Those should burn off quickly since they are used first. Stalling is better than having glucose spike/releasing insulin I would think???

SkinnyB212 10-02-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cb83 (Post 16626723)
I would think the real sugars in the chocolate chips would affect you worse/stall than the atkins bars with basically sugar alcohols. Those should burn off quickly since they are used first. Stalling is better than having glucose spike/releasing insulin I would think???

Thanks for the advice :)

SkinnyB212 10-02-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by margn (Post 16626288)
Try eliminating the milks . It can cause stalls. and the whey protein are also causes for stalls. At least they have been for me

Thanks so much.
You may be right :)

cfine 10-03-2013 11:15 AM

On a ketogenic diet, you need extra salt. It's very important. Make sure you are getting enough calories and fat. Believe it or not, too few calories can make your body hold on to its fat stores.

SkinnyB212 10-30-2013 08:02 PM

Finally figured it out! Foods to avoid
 
It took a lot of trial & error, but it finally starting working for me.
The key was knowing my body & what would make me stall.
For me, I could not eat the following foods, since thy would stall my weight loss or cause weight gain:

1. Blue cheese
2. Regular Bacon (switched to low sodium Turkey Bacon)
3. Almond Milk (use Coconut Milk in my smoothies)
4. Spinach, Broccoli & Cabbage make me bloated
5. Diet Sodas or Red Bull


...also I did watch my calories, in addition to carbs & would not eat more than 1,500 calories or 25g carbs.

margn 10-31-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyB212 (Post 16605384)
HELP!!!
I am working out daily (jogging or p90x) before breakfast on an empty stomach.
I am counting my carbs religiously & not going over 30g a day.
Why is the weight just not falling off? I see people losing 1 lb a day or 10 lbs a week & I wonder what I am doing wrong.
I started in August at 200 & am now 187-190 depending on the day I weigh.
Is working out killing my diet?
I am a muscular person & fear that all this working out is making me gain weight!
Yes my clothes do feel loose, but my measurements have only gone down a couple inches.

Anyone successfully dropping pounds and inches on a weekly basis:
1. Sample daily menu?
2. How long do you work out for daily?
3. Day or evening workout?
4. What do you eat after your workout?
5. Do you wait 1/2 hour after you workout?

I just need some help since I think I have reached a plateau despite working out daily for 45 minutes with a combo of jogging or p90x.

Why is the weight just not falling off?

I lost more weight back in the day, when I was not exercising & starving myself!

See it's not that easy. Having Hypothyroidism makes a HUGE difference and slows everything to a crawl

SkinnyB212 10-31-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by margn (Post 16665713)
See it's not that easy. Having Hypothyroidism makes a HUGE difference and slows everything to a crawl

Yes, you just have to avoid certain foods & work out daily.

margn 10-31-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyB212 (Post 16665747)
Yes, you just have to avoid certain foods & work out daily.

WELL Good for you. You have found the way that works for YOU. Unfortunately not everyone falls in the same catagory. I cannot work out like that. I have trouble even walking , so a full workout is impossible for me. But, I'm happy for you. It is apparent that you know best.


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