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Old 08-20-2013, 08:26 PM   #2071
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Good work Ms Trillex. Glad the scale was kind to you. My body continues to change even though the scale hasn't moved much lately. It doesn't surprise me at all that your waist is smaller.
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:07 AM   #2072
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Well went to my annual dr visit....which hasn't been so annual. It's been three years. Lots of losses these past few years. Mother to cancer, Step Father to loneliness and giving up and an Aunt to suicide. It was just so hard to concentrate on anything but getting through day by day.

But I am back and ready to take responsibility again. Went out and bought a few things to stock up at work for lunches. Been a while since I did this so need to familiarize myself with the foods for induction.

I had an induction friendly Atkins breakfast, chicken salad for lunch and soon some cucumbers and olive oil. Been in a lot of conference calls so really haven't been able to squeeze in all my snacks. Will plan better tomorrow.

I know this is the only plan that works for me. I am addicted to carbs and choose today to take power over my cravings. haha
Welcome back to Atkins!

I'm so sorry for your losses! I can't even IMAGINE what you've gone through. I lost my mother a few years ago, and just losing my mother (without all of the additional losses that you've suffered) has been incredibly difficult. I'm still hurt by her loss every day. So I really admire your strength! Congratulations on taking control of your life!
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:13 AM   #2073
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That makes sense why they wouldn't use Metformin. I can't explain at a cellular level what is happening in my body but I can explain thru symptoms and evidence that something is changing.

The first thing, that I find fascinating, is that my body will VIOLENTLY reject high GI carbs. (i.e. eating pasta makes me vomit). Talk about a motivating deterrent to eating bad carbs!

I have a LOT more energy during the day. I have been running at least 1-3 miles every night after work and on weekends I hike 3-6 hours on one or both weekend days and have a big 10 hour hike planned for the end of the month.

I have little or no appetite. I'm rarely hungry, except when I wake up, I'm starving. Which is REALLY new, because I have always struggled to force breakfast. Now it's my first thought when I wake up. I have had to start planning the night before to have something handy (i.e. boiled eggs) as soon as I roll out of bed.

Also, I have always had a terrible gnawing craving at 3pm every afternoon wanting something to make it to 5pm. It used to be sweets. Then it was just anything. Boiled eggs, veggie sticks, anything. I don't have the 3pm crave anymore.

I've mentioned before that I take my basal temp every morning. When I'm not following plan, my temps are all over the place. When I'm following plan, my temps regulate to a small zigzag. Now, on Metformin, my temps have totally flat-lined. That is a huge indication to me that SOMETHING is going on, stabilizing...

I'm down 1.5lbs in 5 days.

Having said that, today is day 7 of Metformin, so it's all VERY new and who knows how this will turn out day 30. Things could always change. But I'm excited about the changes so far. They all seem to be moving things in a positive direction. And, as I've also mentioned before, DH and I are TTC. And a lot of women with IR have reported success on Met, so there is that hope as well.
I don't want to sound creepy but I'm super curious about how the Metformin will affect your progress this month. Since you've changed your diet at the same time, I guess it'll be difficult to say whether it was the Metformin or the change in diet. But I'm really curious to know what this type of change in systemic glucose management does with regard to fat loss.

Regardless of whether it's the Metformin or the change in diet, I'm SO glad you're feeling good AND making better progress!
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:26 AM   #2074
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You look amazing.

Campagna? As in Italy? I think we stopped there when we did Amalfi, how amazing is it there?
Yup, Amalfi is in the Campagna region! I didn't go to the town of Amalfi but I spent a week in Praiano, which is on the Amalfi coast. And I went with a buddy to his hometown of Sorrento, which is also on the Amalfi coast.

It's really a beautiful area! And I love the people of Campagna! Everyone was very kind to me and I had an amazing time. Even though there are only 2,000 residents in the town, Praiano is home to one of the world's historic nightclubs, Africana Famous Club. It was one of the first clubs on the planet to follow the Ibizan style of lounge chill and new DJs -- and it's still an amazing place! The club is literally built into a cave, and the cave opens onto the bay so the club "building" is a cavernous cove that is directly over the water. It's very special.

This was actually my first time in the south, but I definitely plan to go back down there the next time I'm in Italy.
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Good work Ms Trillex. Glad the scale was kind to you. My body continues to change even though the scale hasn't moved much lately. It doesn't surprise me at all that your waist is smaller.
Thanks, Big Stevie! I'm just glad I didn't see particularly negative consequences of my actions on the scale. You know? I felt bad enough about the situation. I'm just relieved that I didn't see backwards progress after all of this time, that would have been horrible.

Onward and forward!
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Tillex- Thank you so much for your words of support and encouragement. Time has helped to heal the heart. I feel motivated for change. I think I can do this for myself and my family. I don't want them to feel the loss like I did. It only brings good to my life.
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Bella and all.....thank you for the welcome back.
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Welcome Twinzie. It sounds like you know this diet works for you. I tried it one time and it worked really well for me and then I fell off. I gained a lot a weight over a 9 year period off the plan. So I have been back on for over a year now and I will stay on this program for the rest of my life.

I would recommend that you take the time to re-read the book (Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution). Spend some time planning so you have enough food and you don't get hungry. Especially in the begining. Things will settle down, but it takes time. Right now you are operating on sugar, and you are converting to running on fat. That conversion takes time.

Remember drink a lot of water. At your weight, you should be drinking a 120 ounces a day.

Best of luck on the plan. I know your goal is far away now, but you can get there if you follow this plan. Both Trillex and I have lost the amount of weight you are trying to do. So it is very possible.
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Hi, Twinzie. Listen to Stevie, he knows what he's talking about. Trillex, too. Best of luck to you and I hope the adjustment isn't too uncomfortable for you. I got tired and cranky, but it didn't last too long.

As for the sudden shrinking of the waistline, Trillex -- it makes sense, when you think about it, but I have been surprised by that too, and happy, for sure. I lost about an inch in the waist this month, same with the hips, and that surprised me, but then, that's where most of the visible fat is at this point. It sure does make coming up with clothes for the fall semester tricky.

I celebrated yesterday hitting my next-to-last mini-goal: 20% of starting weight lost. Not much compared to some of the masters on here but sure has changed my life. Now I'm about three pounds from the number I picked as my goal. But that was kind of random. We'll see where things settle out. I don't plan to change my eating style by much. Inching along. The couple days when I tried to make big changes were definitely not fun and I got too anxious. I can do this almost on automatic pilot now.
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I feel motivated for change. I think I can do this for myself and my family. I don't want them to feel the loss like I did. It only brings good to my life.
I honestly felt that, for me, losing excess bodyfat was something I needed to do to save my life. Or at least to extend my life. I did not yet have any *serious* health issues -- I didn't need to take medication for any conditions -- but I felt like it was only a matter of time before I had cardiovascular problems or debilitating joint problems or maybe something even worse. Then, after only two months or so of diet and exercise I felt so much stronger and I had so much more stamina, then I realized that I had been *sick* in a much more serious way than I had realized.

Any investment you make in your long-term health will totally be worth it!
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I celebrated yesterday hitting my next-to-last mini-goal: 20% of starting weight lost. Not much compared to some of the masters on here but sure has changed my life. Now I'm about three pounds from the number I picked as my goal. But that was kind of random. We'll see where things settle out. I don't plan to change my eating style by much. Inching along. The couple days when I tried to make big changes were definitely not fun and I got too anxious. I can do this almost on automatic pilot now.
20% is a huge number, Martha! Congratulations!
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Well went to my annual dr visit....which hasn't been so annual. It's been three years. Lots of losses these past few years. Mother to cancer, Step Father to loneliness and giving up and an Aunt to suicide. It was just so hard to concentrate on anything but getting through day by day.

But I am back and ready to take responsibility again. Went out and bought a few things to stock up at work for lunches. Been a while since I did this so need to familiarize myself with the foods for induction.

I had an induction friendly Atkins breakfast, chicken salad for lunch and soon some cucumbers and olive oil. Been in a lot of conference calls so really haven't been able to squeeze in all my snacks. Will plan better tomorrow.

I know this is the only plan that works for me. I am addicted to carbs and choose today to take power over my cravings. haha
Just an update....I have only been on low carb for two days and got on scale first thing this morning. Down 7 lbs already. Must be all the water I am drinking and the sodas are gone. Yay. what a motivator.
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Welcome Twinzie. It sounds like you know this diet works for you. I tried it one time and it worked really well for me and then I fell off. I gained a lot a weight over a 9 year period off the plan. So I have been back on for over a year now and I will stay on this program for the rest of my life.

I would recommend that you take the time to re-read the book (Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution). Spend some time planning so you have enough food and you don't get hungry. Especially in the begining. Things will settle down, but it takes time. Right now you are operating on sugar, and you are converting to running on fat. That conversion takes time.

Remember drink a lot of water. At your weight, you should be drinking a 120 ounces a day.

Best of luck on the plan. I know your goal is far away now, but you can get there if you follow this plan. Both Trillex and I have lost the amount of weight you are trying to do. So it is very possible.
Thanks so much for the words of encouragement. I have only been on plan for two whole days and already this morning I am down 7lbs. Been drinking lots of water and stocked up fridge at work (bottom drawer) is full of salad, hard boiled eggs, turkey, and cucumbers. I should be good to go and have a few choices. Kind of had the LC flu yesterday...kind of sick to my tummy, but drank a bunch of water and it eased up.
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I honestly felt that, for me, losing excess bodyfat was something I needed to do to save my life. Or at least to extend my life. I did not yet have any *serious* health issues -- I didn't need to take medication for any conditions -- but I felt like it was only a matter of time before I had cardiovascular problems or debilitating joint problems or maybe something even worse. Then, after only two months or so of diet and exercise I felt so much stronger and I had so much more stamina, then I realized that I had been *sick* in a much more serious way than I had realized.

Any investment you make in your long-term health will totally be worth it!
So glad to see that someone has had such success on plan long term. I had lost 46lbs the last time I was on LC plan. It felt so good. I look forward to that transition again. You look fantastic Trillex. I WILL be there once again. I have a new grandbaby to play with and a family counting on me being around a long time. Thanks for your support.
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Thanks so much for the words of encouragement. I have only been on plan for two whole days and already this morning I am down 7lbs. Been drinking lots of water and stocked up fridge at work (bottom drawer) is full of salad, hard boiled eggs, turkey, and cucumbers. I should be good to go and have a few choices. Kind of had the LC flu yesterday...kind of sick to my tummy, but drank a bunch of water and it eased up.
Good. It will become easier as the days go on. You will also find the snacks that work for you. Try to avoid the packaged low carb foods, and eat as much real food as possible. Look up the Induction Food Porn threads on this site. It will give you a lot of ideas on things to eat. There truly are almost unlimited options.
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Now I'm about three pounds from the number I picked as my goal. But that was kind of random. We'll see where things settle out. I don't plan to change my eating style by much. Inching along.
I was thinking about Martha's post this AM because my trainer emailed me last night to let me know that he wants to talk with me today about "maintenance goal" setting -- he likes to do a sort of weekly review on Fridays, to set training goals and stuff for the following week.

I've been kind of *fixated* on 135 pounds as my program goal because it's 10 pounds heavier than my weight before I started gaining, and it's 100 pounds lighter than my starting diet weight, and 135 was the weight range that I remember being the happiest with. Also, this is going to sound strange but 1, 3, and 5 are prime numbers, which I find attractive. So I've been looking forward to seeing 135!

It's totally silly but I'm actually a bit nervous about talking with my trainer today about my goal weight because -- THIS IS SO SILLY AND I'M EMBARRASSED TO ADMIT IT! -- but I'm worried he might change it. This number has been a sort of *beacon* for longer than a year -- you guys know what I mean, right? I honestly don't think I've been obsessed with the scale. But the scale number of 135 has come to represent "THE END" for me. Or to represent "victory" or "sanctuary" or something. Since I've been on the diet, no other scale number has really *meant* much to me. But 135 actually *means* something to me now. HOWEVER, that doesn't necessarily make 135 the ideal number with regard to my health and fitness. So I'm not resistant to changing my goal. I'm just feeling *weird* about it.

Anyway, my plan is to just keep climbing the Atkins Ongoing Weight Loss ladder, according to the instructions in the book. The Atkins diet has been a really great experience for me so I'm willing to stick closely with Dr Atkins's instructions because I feel like he's *proven* to me that he did a solid job of constructing this eating plan.

I'm a bit concerned about my workout outlook, though. I think my trainers have done an amazing, fantastic, absolutely transcendent job of helping me integrate workouts into my everyday life. They've helped me find workouts that I love and that I look forward to. But I wasn't exactly a *star* while on vacation -- they gave me a great travel workout plan and I just stone cold did NOT do it. So I don't feel that I've proven to myself that I'm going to continue taking care of my body when I no longer have a coach looking over my shoulder 5 days per week.

So far, this experience has been about learning as I go along. So I guess maintenance will be like that, too.
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Trillex--I'm proud of you for recognizing your attachment to your "number." A comment that you'd posted in the August Challenge reallly hit home with me re: "numbers," too. You'd said that my body is not on a timetable.....and you're totally correct. That "timetable" comment made me really evaluate what I'm actually doing this for. I'm pushing myself for 230 this month because Big Stevie said that I could probably get to 230 in a month if I tried and I took it as a "coach's challenge, so to speak). (Also, I'm trying really hard, but my body isn't getting the drift as quickly as I'd like.) The next number that I'm fixated on is 222..because that will be 50 pounds for me and it will also coincide with my 6 months date..so then I can say, "I lost 50 pounds in 6 months..." The next number that I'm looking forward to is 172--because that will be 100 pounds for me..and I'd like to hit that in April at my 1 year atkinsversary. For no reason other than, "I've lost 50 lbs.." do these numbers matter at all. I don't even know what I'll LOOK like at any of these numbers, but they're these weird fantastical "ideals" I have for myself. I also have no idea how I'll FEEL, or sleep, or experience hunger, or or or or or.

I know in my heart my HUGE ultimate-mega-ginormo goal is to get down to between 120-135--because it's the healthy BMI range for my height. But again..I don't even know what that will look like, feel like, taste like or act like in the grand scheme of things. I would LOVE to lose 150 pounds..and I have faith that I will do it with hard work, determination, sweat and tears..but I hate that I'm so attached to these numbers right now and my self-imposed "time table."

I guess what I'm saying is that I totally get what you're saying. If nothing else, I can relate. I don't have any tips or tricks to give--thats what I look to YOU for, lol.. But I will say that you are doing fabulous and you look fabulous, and you're hiking and training and bodybuilding and inspiring and and and and...

I've decided for the rest of the August Challenge that I'm not going to weigh in daily because if I see even a slight fluctuation upwards then I feel like I did something "wrong," even when I *know* I was on plan. I'm happy to say that I am slip up and binge free for 34 days. I'm thankful for the pizza fiasco--because it really opened my eyes. This forum has helped SO much in that regard, too.

If your trainer wants you to go lower, it's probably because he thinks you're wonderful and wants to spend more time with you. Ha.

Have a fab weekend, girl. :-)
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Well Trillex and GL --

I don't have time right this minute to respond to this the way I'd like, but I will say that you have both come up with these numbers by processes that seem to me part rational and part magical -- and both those parts are fine. One has to choose goals, and then one has to sometimes move the goalposts because you get more information or your assumptions were wrong or unexpected things happen.

As for feeling weird, I think just "sitting with the weirdness" a little bit and listening to it, fixing it a cup of tea and seeing what it has to say to you, I think that is a fine and thoughtful thing to do. I have been having to do that, too, because I have a tendency to feel ashamed of how much time and effort and thought I have put into this weight loss thing when at least theoretically it should take ZERO time. Because it amounts to NOT doing something. OK, the workouts take time. But I had to eat anyway, right? But we all know that recreating your body along new lines is a big project and it takes all the same variety of resources that most other projects take.

Back with you ladies later. I have to bake cookies, of all things, for a wake, because I said, "What can I bring?" And that's what wasn't covered. It's ok. It will be a little weird. But I can do a little weird.

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Anyway, my plan is to just keep climbing the Atkins Ongoing Weight Loss ladder, according to the instructions in the book. The Atkins diet has been a really great experience for me so I'm willing to stick closely with Dr Atkins's instructions because I feel like he's *proven* to me that he did a solid job of constructing this eating plan.
I feel the same way. I haven't found another plan put together as thoughtfully as this one (as revised). It also matters to me that the Duke University weight loss center has taken on low carb as a treatment, calls it Atkins without shame, and promotes it without apology. I grew up not far from Duke, and my dad (a country doctor) used to send patients there. My mother was treated there. And so I take what Atkins and company have to say very seriously indeed, both the original idea plus the decades of refinement and research.

Now I have to make the goodies for the wake.
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GUYS! This is kind of off topic--but not for long!

My DH is seriously contemplating beginning induction! I AM ELATED. It will make food prep and grocery shopping so much easier AND he will reap the benefits of this healthful WOE. I AM SO EXCITED! I talked to him all about the tracking tools for his phone AND LCF and the wonderful support and recipe ideas I get from here. I'M SO EXCITED!!
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GUYS! This is kind of off topic--but not for long!

My DH is seriously contemplating beginning induction! I AM ELATED. It will make food prep and grocery shopping so much easier AND he will reap the benefits of this healthful WOE. I AM SO EXCITED! I talked to him all about the tracking tools for his phone AND LCF and the wonderful support and recipe ideas I get from here. I'M SO EXCITED!!
This isn't off-topic! I'm so glad your husband is considering joining you! If you're both doing the same program, you can support and applaud each other as you make progress. We're all here for you, on the forum. But having a teammate in your house would be even better!

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Grateful, it DOES make it so much easier! I was doing it a month before my BF decided to do it too. Now I've been at it 6 months, and it's been 5 for him and it's so much easier that we do it together. He occasionally takes a cheat day, which I don't, but it's always when we're out somewhere, so we don't have any off plan food in the house. I love that we're on this journey together!
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I was thinking of trying one of those chocolate Atkins Endulge bars that have about 18g carbs, but only 2g net carbs, but was dissuaded by blogs that said the Atkins Endulge bars actually stall weightloss. I do not think I will try those. However I do have a sweet tooth & need an after dinner snack to go with my hot chai tea & cream. I researched & found that the unsweetened Chocolate chips used for baking have only 5g carbs (18 total chips). I was thinking of sprinkling 9 chips (3g carbs) over 1/2 pack of 100 pack almond snack pack (3G) for a nice snack to curb my sweet tooth. Would be 6g total.

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Old 08-24-2013, 09:44 AM   #2094
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My trainer wanted to talk about "maintenance goal" setting yesterday, and I was a bit concerned that he might want to change my goal weight number. D'UH! He's a bodybuilder so he's not thinking in terms of *pounds*! He's thinking about bodyfat percentage. I've grown up with bodybuilders so I have no idea why I thought he wanted to talk to me about pounds. I think that being so close to my goal weight has super-focused my attention on that final number. As Martha pointed out yesterday, I'm definitely using some *magical* thinking in terms of that number. So I've been a bit distracted.

Anyway, my trainers would like to help me get to between 18-20% bodyfat and maintain there. I have to go back to Michigan next week so my current trainer and I had a conference call with my *regular* trainer in Michigan about heading toward maintenance and about my upcoming transition back to training in Michigan. During this discussion, both trainers said that they are quite confident that I can achieve 18-20% bodyfat and comfortably maintain that range.

At my pre-diet scan, my starting bodyfat level was 52%. At the 1-year point of my diet, my bodyfat scan put me at 28% bodyfat. Since the 1-year point, my trainers have been estimating my bodyfat level each month using calipers, which are not as accurate as body scans. But based on their years of experience with measuring bodyfat, both trainers believe I'm currently at about 23% bodyfat as of last Monday's weigh-in and caliper measurements.

I'd lost just over 4 pounds of lean mass at the one year scan, which my trainer thought was phenomenal because my rate of lean mass loss to fat loss was less than 5%, which is quite far below the average rate of lean mass loss on a weight-reducing diet. Plus, going from carrying a very large amount of bodyfat to a much lower amount of bodyfat, typically means losing some of the lean "connective tissue" that the body grows in order to help the limbs and joints support the weight of the additional body mass. So my trainers are happy with my level of lean mass retention -- and they're a bit surprised by it, which I find flattering -- but they would like to see me develop a bit more lean mass once I'm at my target bodyfat level.

My 1-year bodyfat scan also showed that I have developed some "intramuscular triglycerides" (IMTG), which is another surprising development that *potentially* gives my trainers additional confidence in my maintenance outlook. IMTG are sort of like the "marbling" that you see in a steak, it's fat that is stored inside muscle tissue instead of being stored with the larger deposits of bodyfat. Typically, only VERY obese bodies and highly-trained athletes store IMTG. So the fact that I have developed IMTG makes my trainers believe my body *may have* adapted particularly well to the training regime.

In athletes, because their bodies have developed a process that involves the regular use of IMTG metabolism as fuel for muscle tissue, athletes also produce larger than normal amounts of "sterol regulatory element-binding proteins" (SREBP), which prevents the IMTGs from causing a state of insulin resistance in the athletes' muscle cells. In obese individuals, however, IMTGs are associated with insulin resistance (partly) because the increased concentration of fat depresses the insulin sensitivity of muscle cells, which is not good. So I need to have a few more medical tests done when I return to Michigan, to see how my body manages IMTG while I'm at my desired level of bodyfat. We don't *really* know right now whether the presence of IMTG is positive state that occurred as the result of heavy training, or if the IMTG are a potentially troubling legacy from my starting level of extremely elevated bodyfat.

My brothers -- who both totally think they're the boss of me -- want me to "cut" to competition levels of bodyfat, which would be 12-16% bodyfat. But I think they just want to be able to *brag* to their bodybuilding buddies that "even their fat sister is better than their gym buddies at cutting." So although I love my brothers, I know them well enough to know that it is NOT in my best interest to follow their advice on ideal body composition. My goal is 18-20%.
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Anyway, my trainers would like to help me get to between 18-20% bodyfat and maintain there.

...both trainers believe I'm currently at about 23% bodyfat as of last Monday's weigh-in and caliper measurements.

My brothers -- who both totally think they're the boss of me -- want me to "cut" to competition levels of bodyfat, which would be 12-16% bodyfat. So although I love my brothers, I know them well enough to know that it is NOT in my best interest to follow their advice on ideal body composition. My goal is 18-20%.
This whole post was really interesting but I clipped these bits because, first, your goal is my goal -- I would like to get to just under 20% body fat. I've been down to around 15 or 16% before, in my thirties when I ran distance and danced a lot, but I think I would be happier right at that line between "fit" and "athlete." And based on just photo comparisons and reading I've done online, I'm probably right at about 22 or 23% body fat right now, too. And I'm working on the OWL stages, as well. So I am enjoying your perspective and knowledge quite a bit, as it's shedding a lot of light on my own situation. Thanks.

And by the way -- I think I'm starting to see just a teensy bit of that "cutting" business. I've never seen this before, but at the top of my thighs, in the front, I can see muscle definition -- two separate muscles, one on the inner thigh and the other on top. Most of the extra flesh from my hip bones in the front is gone, too. Still have fat pads up high on my "haunches" in the back, and a round lower belly, plus saddlebags and Kewpie-doll shape generally, but those last two have been around forever, even during the distance-running 102-pound stage. Some things you just accept.

I wanted to opine that for people who have experienced compulsive eating or unhealthy eating, setting a goal too far outside the bell curve might be riskier than for other people. I think it certainly is for me. (I remember having a stern talk with myself back in the 80s over the issue of whether being a better runner necessarily made me a better person! Maybe not!) So I think your response to the suggestion that you aim for competition levels of body fat is probably wise.

The other news from me is that I had my most super-challenging day ever yesterday, at least as far as this six-month weight loss project is concerned. I was asked to bring cookies (for regular people) to an event, and then I was hungry at the event, and then was taken to dinner at an Italian restaurant where we had a limited menu to choose from and really nothing was on plan. And I was a guest and didn't want to make a scene.

And I got through it ok, with total net carbs definitely below my current OWL limit of 30 (though I would like to average around 23 to 25 this week). I tasted only a tiny piece of broken cookie -- less than a quarter -- to make sure they had turned out ok. I am very proud of this cookie recipe and may try a low-carb version soon. Then I got really hungry at the event, but got by with three pieces of cheese, probably about an ounce and a half, maybe two. Then dinner was the hardest, because we sat there for hours while people drank and relaxed (and I don't drink) and ate bread and dessert and fried potato dumplings. The only thing even close to acceptable was lightly breaded veal, which was the most expensive thing on the menu. Luckily my host and everybody else at my table ordered that, so I could, too! I ate that and the green beans, pretended to taste the potato, then cut it in two and gave it to the boys. And made it home in one piece. I was just slightly angsty and felt hungry, but stuck to my regular bedtime square of dark chocolate and a couple of walnuts. I woke up hungry in the middle of the night and had half a dozen almonds, which settled me down. In fact, I fell asleep before I had finished them. And today I am fine.

That's long-winded, but going ten hours with off-plan food right in my face for a full ten hours -- that's a challenge. I feel pretty good about it. Don't think I could have managed to stay on the right path with any other program.

I want to talk about blood pressure, too, but I think I should look for the appropriate thread for that. Thanks for listening.
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Anyway, my trainers would like to help me get to between 18-20% bodyfat and maintain there.
What does this mean in terms of scale weight for you? If you are at 23% now, how much do you need to lose to get below 20% in terms of weight. I know it isn't an exact correlation, but approximately what number on the scale.

I know you have been working very hard. You look amazing. I am concerned that being so close to the body building community like you are, that they may set you up for unrealeastic expectations for a "normal" person. Yes, I have no boubt that you would be able to get really low like your brothers want, but at what cost? Most people in the world aren't willing to pay that cost (that is why there are so few body builders). I can assure you that the normal world thinks you look amazing as you are right now. Please don't loose perspective of the elite athletes have too much influence over what number you choose and how you see yourself.

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I was thinking of trying one of those chocolate Atkins Endulge bars that have about 18g carbs, but only 2g net carbs, but was dissuaded by blogs that said the Atkins Endulge bars actually stall weightloss. I do not think I will try those. However I do have a sweet tooth & need an after dinner snack to go with my hot chai tea & cream. I researched & found that the unsweetened Chocolate chips used for baking have only 5g carbs (18 total chips). I was thinking of sprinkling 9 chips (3g carbs) over 1/2 pack of 100 pack almond snack pack (3G) for a nice snack to curb my sweet tooth. Would be 6g total.

Any other suggestions for a low carb chocolate snack?

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I would be careful with stuff like this. You really just need to forget about your sweet tooth. Or better yet, pull it out. You don't get sugar anymore!

All kidding aside, especially in the begining, you just need a break from everything sugar related. Your body and mind will settle down. I know it is hard at that start. We all went through it.

What I did, was put cocco powder in Heavy whipping cream and splenda and made Chocolate Mousse. This gives you high fat while satisfying your chocolate craving.

The Atkins bars cause me to stall. They also cause me to have cravingings and I am extra hungry the next day after I eat them. Try them out and see how your body reacts to them. In any case, I would only use them on rare occasions and never make them a normal part of your diet.

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I would be careful with stuff like this. You really just need to forget about your sweet tooth. Or better yet, pull it out. You don't get sugar anymore!

All kidding aside, especially in the begining, you just need a break from everything sugar related. Your body and mind will settle down. I know it is hard at that start. We all went through it.

What I did, was put cocco powder in Heavy whipping cream and splenda and made Chocolate Mousse. This gives you high fat while satisfying your chocolate craving.

The Atkins bars cause me to stall. They also cause me to have cravingings and I am extra hungry the next day after I eat them. Try them out and see how your body reacts to them. In any case, I would only use them on rare occasions and never make them a normal part of your diet.
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I like a cup of cocoa too... hwc with water, cocoa and splenda...
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This whole post was really interesting but I clipped these bits because, first, your goal is my goal -- I would like to get to just under 20% body fat. I've been down to around 15 or 16% before, in my thirties when I ran distance and danced a lot, but I think I would be happier right at that line between "fit" and "athlete." And based on just photo comparisons and reading I've done online, I'm probably right at about 22 or 23% body fat right now, too. And I'm working on the OWL stages, as well. So I am enjoying your perspective and knowledge quite a bit, as it's shedding a lot of light on my own situation. Thanks.

And by the way -- I think I'm starting to see just a teensy bit of that "cutting" business. I've never seen this before, but at the top of my thighs, in the front, I can see muscle definition -- two separate muscles, one on the inner thigh and the other on top. Most of the extra flesh from my hip bones in the front is gone, too. Still have fat pads up high on my "haunches" in the back, and a round lower belly, plus saddlebags and Kewpie-doll shape generally, but those last two have been around forever, even during the distance-running 102-pound stage. Some things you just accept.

I wanted to opine that for people who have experienced compulsive eating or unhealthy eating, setting a goal too far outside the bell curve might be riskier than for other people. I think it certainly is for me. (I remember having a stern talk with myself back in the 80s over the issue of whether being a better runner necessarily made me a better person! Maybe not!) So I think your response to the suggestion that you aim for competition levels of body fat is probably wise.

The other news from me is that I had my most super-challenging day ever yesterday, at least as far as this six-month weight loss project is concerned. I was asked to bring cookies (for regular people) to an event, and then I was hungry at the event, and then was taken to dinner at an Italian restaurant where we had a limited menu to choose from and really nothing was on plan. And I was a guest and didn't want to make a scene.

And I got through it ok, with total net carbs definitely below my current OWL limit of 30 (though I would like to average around 23 to 25 this week). I tasted only a tiny piece of broken cookie -- less than a quarter -- to make sure they had turned out ok. I am very proud of this cookie recipe and may try a low-carb version soon. Then I got really hungry at the event, but got by with three pieces of cheese, probably about an ounce and a half, maybe two. Then dinner was the hardest, because we sat there for hours while people drank and relaxed (and I don't drink) and ate bread and dessert and fried potato dumplings. The only thing even close to acceptable was lightly breaded veal, which was the most expensive thing on the menu. Luckily my host and everybody else at my table ordered that, so I could, too! I ate that and the green beans, pretended to taste the potato, then cut it in two and gave it to the boys. And made it home in one piece. I was just slightly angsty and felt hungry, but stuck to my regular bedtime square of dark chocolate and a couple of walnuts. I woke up hungry in the middle of the night and had half a dozen almonds, which settled me down. In fact, I fell asleep before I had finished them. And today I am fine.

That's long-winded, but going ten hours with off-plan food right in my face for a full ten hours -- that's a challenge. I feel pretty good about it. Don't think I could have managed to stay on the right path with any other program.

I want to talk about blood pressure, too, but I think I should look for the appropriate thread for that. Thanks for listening.
I can't even imagine the stress of that situation, Martha. It's not just the food situation, but also the issue of loss. I'm glad you found a way to take care of your health and your body as you navigated through the awkwardness of the situation.

I'm curious about what you were going to say about blood pressure. I don't know anything about blood pressure, really. But I like learning about new things, so I'm just curious.
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