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Old 09-11-2012, 01:58 PM   #451
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Yup! I know that fat gains and losses are complicated by hormone but if you didn't eat 8,750 EXTRA calories, even if you did eat some carbs, you haven't re-gained 2.5 pounds of fat. It's still a pain to see it on the scale, though. Amirite?!

Somebody posted this video about scale readings while back and I bookmarked it:

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Hello, Librarygirl!

I think people talk, primarily, about Atkins Induction here because this is the Atkins section. But there are people in this forum who are working many different types of low-carb plans. And there are MANY different levels of carbon restriction. I'm doing Atkins. And I'm sticking to Induction-level carbs: less than 20 net grams of carbs per day, 1 cup non-starchy veggies + 2 cups salad veggies per day, only foods from the Induction list in Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution (2002 version). This is the program that I chose to follow, so I'm specifically following those rules as they are outlined in the book.

The number of grams of carbs you eat will vary, depending on which plan you choose. I've read on this forum (and others) that some people perform better and/or lose faster at a higher level of carbs, and/or at a lower (or higher) level of fat, and/or at a higher (or lower) level of protein. It seems, to me, that it's up to each individual to find his/her best balance for fat loss.

For me, I'm sticking with Atkins Induction because I've found it to be a reliable way to lose and a sustainable way to eat. Others may not find the food choices sufficiently varied. And I'm sure there are other reasons that people might struggle with the program, but I have been able to stick with this plan and I believe that the most important thing, for me, is to have a plan that I can stick with for however long it takes me to lose the fat I've gained.

Welcome aboard! Good luck!
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Hi Trillex! Thanks for replying. I was looking for a newbie type thread, and saw this one and thought maybe this would be a good place to start. This site is so large it's kind of overwhelming. I wonder if it's frowned upon to have no particular plan except to cut out the "white" stuff?
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Oh, you can do whatever you want! Whatever works for you!

I've been doing strict Atkins but I didn't want to sound overly orthodox, so I wanted to mention that other people do things differently when they find tweaks or other approaches that work better for them.
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Way to go Trillex. Good bye 200's. Welcome to the world of 100's. Slow and steady wins the race. I am losing slower right now but it is still coming off. I still need to lose about 70 pounds, but I am committed to get there.

I like you have opened up my diet a little bit more, but still try to stay at around 20 carbs a day. Avocados and tomatoes are great. I live in California and they are plentiful and cheap right now. Like I have always said, I don't think any of us got fat eating too many vegetables.
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Yum! Avocados and fresh tomatoes!

I've changed since I started this diet. When I started, the meat and fat were my favorite part of the meal. Now, I really look forward to the veggies. Tonight, I had a pork chop grilled with olive oil and herbs, with roasted green beans. The green beans were my favorite part of the meal! Honestly, before I started this diet, it had been years since I'd had veggies that weren't on a pizza.
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HI, my name is Pat. I have been on and off of Atkin's Induction for months! I read the new book and have the small carb books(carb count). In the book of Atkin's, it says you can have coffee, diet soda and it counts as you fluid.I have 3TBS. of half and half in my two-three cups of coffee a day. And I have lost weight! Also, in one of the threads, some one said 1/2 Avocado is 5nc. In the books, it says 1.8nc for a 1/2 Avocado. If anyone has some input about this, please give your information. Thanks,Pat
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So maybe this is where I can ask questions. I saw in the Atkins book that cream cheese is allowed and for 2 tablespoons, it is only .8 carbs. I have Great Value cream cheese spread (Wal Mart brand) and it says 2 carbs per 2 tablespoons. ?????? I did not see any additional sugar added in the ingredients. But next to the carb count (0 fiber) it says sugar 2 grams. So where is the sugar from, the stabilizers? It says carob bean and/or xanthan and/or guar gums. Is it from the carob bean?
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Hiya, Pat!

I use a carb counter app on my phone, and my app tells me that 1/2 avocado has 8g total carbs - 6g fiber = 2g net carbs. So 1.8g net carbs sounds right, as if the value was rounded up by my app.

Just in case my app was mistaken, I've just googled "nutrition info Hass avocados" (because that's the brand I buy) and their official nutrition info site says that a "medium" Hass avocado has 3g total carbs - 2g fiber per 1/5 avocado. When we factor that out into 1/2 avocado, that's 2.5g net carbs per 1/2 avocado. None of these three sources say 5g net carbs for 1/2 avocado, so that info doesn't sound correct.

About drinking coffee and diet soda as fluid: I've read (here on the forum and elsewhere) that coffee and diet soda cause some people to have cravings. So I didn't drink anything but water my first three months, and I drank a couple of liters of water every day. But as far as I can tell, this didn't help me to lose weight any faster than other people who continued to drink coffee and diet soda. In fact, I think I've probably lost more slowly than the average person on a very low carb diet. That's probably a result of my individual metabolism, and has nothing to do with drinking lots of water. So if your copy of Atkins says you can substitute coffee and diet soda for water, and you don't have any cravings and continue to lose, I don't see why you shouldn't drink it. I haven't read the newest Atkins, though. I'm using the 2002 version of Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution.
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Hiya, Tilly!

First of all, it isn't the lower-fat or "light" version, is it? The lower-fat versions and "whipped" versions of cream cheese products have higher carb counts than the full-fat versions we would use on Atkins, because the Atkins diet recommends cutting carbs but not fat.

Different brands also may have different carb counts. I've just checked the label of the brand I use, Philadelphia Cream Cheese in the block form (not in the tub), and my brand says it has 1g carbs per 2 tbsp serving. The 1g amount listed on the label might be rounded up from .8g, which would make your carb counter book more precise.

The ingredients on my label seem to be similar to those you've listed: PASTEURIZED MILK AND CREAM, WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, SALT, CAROB BEAN GUM, CHEESE CULTURE.

It's a milk product, so the way it's processed might affect the carb count because milk has natural sugars. Different types of cheese, like cheddar versus brie, have different carb counts and fat counts because the milk has been processed in different ways. But if the label of your product says 2g, you should probably believe that because the carb counter book could be talking about a completely different brand that was processed in a different way and, consequently, has a different carb count.
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Hiya, Tilly!

First of all, it isn't the lower-fat or "light" version, is it? The lower-fat versions and "whipped" versions of cream cheese products have higher carb counts than the full-fat versions we would use on Atkins, because the Atkins diet recommends cutting carbs but not fat.

Different brands also may have different carb counts. I've just checked the label of the brand I use, Philadelphia Cream Cheese in the block form (not in the tub), and my brand says it has 1g carbs per 2 tbsp serving. The 1g amount listed on the label might be rounded up from .8g, which would make your carb counter book more precise.

The ingredients on my label seem to be similar to those you've listed: PASTEURIZED MILK AND CREAM, WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, SALT, CAROB BEAN GUM, CHEESE CULTURE.

It's a milk product, so the way it's processed might affect the carb count because milk has natural sugars. Different types of cheese, like cheddar versus brie, have different carb counts and fat counts because the milk has been processed in different ways. But if the label of your product says 2g, you should probably believe that because the carb counter book could be talking about a completely different brand that was processed in a different way and, consequently, has a different carb count.
Thank you for this information. I think (and I don't have a block in front of me) that for some reason the block is lower in carbs than the tub. I will have to check that next time I go to WM. Great Value vs. Philly in blocks and the same in the tub. This tub is not whipped nor any kind of light. Made a flax muffin yesterday and was already to spread this cream cheese on it but did not. Thanks again, Tirllex!
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I can't drink very much coffee or diet soda because it really messes with my blood sugar. So the the Atkins shakes. So I stay away. Let your body be the judge. Skip the half and half and use whipping cream instead. You can buy it in small cartons and use it the same as half and half but it doesn't have any carbs. It does have fat which we all need.

I am loving the vegetables right now as well. My big eye opener was just how sweet onions are. And I am talking normal brown onions not the sweet varieties. They are not a good induction food, but a little bit here and there really helps spice things up.

Pick one carb counter, trust it and stick with it. If you do x grams a carbs based on the chart you've choosen and still lose weight, you know how many carbs you can have per Your list. Your list may be slightly different than mine, but it will provide you a good enough road map to sort out issues should you not loose during a period of time. Don't over-think this thing. In today's information overload society, there is lots of conflicting information. Choose one and stick with it.

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Stevie, I haven't gotten to the point that I'm seeing everything that may stall my progress, as I have basically just started, but I see you said something about onions. I think the less sweetest would be the plain white onions. The big ones, not the scallions.

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Stevie, I haven't gotten to the point that I'm seeing everything that may stall my progress, as I have basically just started, but I see you said something about onions. I think the less sweetest would be the plain white onions. The big ones, not the scallions.

I am loving this site and the information! Lost another pound this morning.
Just take it slow. Things will reveal themselves as you go on. You will notice what causes you to not lose weight. Visit the thread called Food Porn for recipes and to see what is possible INDUCTION FOOD PORN!!! #2 .

Let your mind go. There is so much great food that can be eaten while on induction. Induction is only as boring as you make it. Reading the book gives you the basics and a start. Now you have to learn how to live the lifestyle. That takes time, remember you didn't get overweight in a day or week, it took time.

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This is my method, though I'm sure everyone has their own variations.

1/4c Ground Flax Meal (I use Bob's Red Mill)
1/2 tsp baking powder
1 tsp cinnamon
1/2 tsp ground cloves
1 packet (or equiv) Splenda
Pinch kosher salt
1 T coconut oil (or butter)
1 egg


Mix dry ingredients well, set aside

In a regular sized coffee cup, melt coconut oil and swirl it around the sides of the mug

Crack egg into mug and beat to break up

Add dry ingredients to mug and mix thoroughly

Microwave 1 minute

Turn out onto plate or cutting board to cool


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319 cal
12g cars
9g fiber
28g fat
13g protein
3g net carbs

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I haven't tried it the the coconut oil yet, so I will have to try that tomorrow. These things are pretty good with cream cheese on them. But they don't seem to hold me until lunch, I get hungry early. I also like to cook them a little be less. About 45 seconds for me. I have also added a little water to try to make them less dry.
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Induction Fiendly Individual Muffin - LowCarbFriends Recipes

This recipe says 1 carb per serving. I am using Truvia instead of Splenda. Also, I am making them in a bread-shaped plastic container. Melt the butter in the microwave right in the container, then add all the other ingredients and mix with a fork. Has been working just fine. Then when the "bread" cools, I slice it sideways to get 2 slices of bread. Not real sturdy, but tasty, so I'm happy with it. Oh, and instead of cinnamon I use pumpkin pie spice.
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I haven't tried it the the coconut oil yet, so I will have to try that tomorrow. These things are pretty good with cream cheese on them. But they don't seem to hold me until lunch, I get hungry early. I also like to cook them a little be less. About 45 seconds for me. I have also added a little water to try to make them less dry.
I've done it with butter a few times, but I figure the coconut oil is good news and since it's out already, it's just as easy as butter. The dryness can be easily combatted with a little extra fat too. I don't find that they keep me full til lunch either.

I have made a bread of sorts by subbing out the sweets for parmesan cheese, garlic powder and minced fresh rosemary. Then once cooked, I sliced it into 4 rounds and toasted with butter in a nonstick pan then topped it with melty artichoke dip. It was pretty good.
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This recipe says 1 carb per serving. I am using Truvia instead of Splenda. Also, I am making them in a bread-shaped plastic container. Melt the butter in the microwave right in the container, then add all the other ingredients and mix with a fork. Has been working just fine. Then when the "bread" cools, I slice it sideways to get 2 slices of bread. Not real sturdy, but tasty, so I'm happy with it. Oh, and instead of cinnamon I use pumpkin pie spice.
That recipe sounds tasty but I'm not sure where they're getting only 1g net carbs.

Eggs, cinnamon, and splenda all have carbs. Not meaning to be a party pooper, but just trying to encourage people to take extra hard looks each of the ingredients before accepting what the nutrition info says.
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I have lost 40lbs on this WOE before. I have been trying it for a week or two then let some emotional roller coaster set me off, and I binge on CARBS! I have a horrible sweet tooth and realize that if I keep giving into it...It alone can kill me! So please to any and all who have any advice on how to navigate myself around this site, all info and help would be appreciated!

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I have lost 40lbs on this WOE before. I have been trying it for a week or two then let some emotional roller coaster set me off, and I binge on CARBS! I have a horrible sweet tooth and realize that if I keep giving into it...It alone can kill me! So please to any and all who have any advice on how to navigate myself around this site, all info and help would be appreciated!

I have tried to add the ticker unsuccessfully, and I have no idea wehre to go to do a food journal. Do you just post what you ate like I am doing now?

I'm sure someone here can help you with the ticker, I too tried that and no success in getting it on here. Some people use the ****** journaling. You can use paper and pencil. It really helps some people to see what they are eating and how it affects them and then make adjustments. (Nope not one of them.) There is a site here for induction people to write in what you are eating, September fresh start no binge challenge
That is not the site and can't find it right now, sorry. Still don't have all the sleepy dust from my eyes!

There are some things I do when stressed out and they may or may not help you but worth a shot. I read a book, exercise (biggie here, reduces stress), depending on the time, go to bed, eat some almonds (no sugar and they are roasted), drink some tea. I'm sure others can think up some things. Oh, and get a low carb cookbook out and make yourself a special treat!!!! That always picks me up. It is low carb AND most of the time they taste pretty darn good. (I have a sweet tooth.)

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Any suggestions for snacks would be greatly appreciated. (Snacks that I can pack and eat on my short break at school)

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Is Crystal Light okay to drink for water. I despise any kind of water unless it is pure spring water...which I am completely out of. So I have been using the Lemonade and Crystal Light...is this ok? Any feedback will be welcome.

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I've been drinking crystal light in water and it hasn't stalled me. It all depends on the person.
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Is Crystal Light okay to drink for water. I despise any kind of water unless it is pure spring water...which I am completely out of. So I have been using the Lemonade and Crystal Light...is this ok? Any feedback will be welcome.
I think Laurel is right, it depends on the person. Before I started Atkins, I'd read that artificial sweeteners stall some people and cause others to have cravings so I drank nothing but water during my first three months on the program. Last month was my fourth month on Atkins and I allowed myself to have tea with liquid sucralose and heavy cream, and I lost at EXACTLY the same rate as when I was drinking only water. And I didn't have any cravings or any other negative fallout from adding the tea and artificial sweetener. Your mileage may vary but if you hate plain regular water, I think you should at least give the alternative a try to see if you can integrate it into your program.
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I have been stuck at 271 for a couple weeks. Just check my weight this morning and I am down to 265. Continuing to go down. Settling into the induction lifestyle. Got a long way to go but moving the right direction is always great. With 30 pounds gone, that puts me at an average loss of 3.5 per week. At this rate, my goal is attainable by February.

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That is fabulous, Big Stevie! Congratulations!
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Wow Big Stevie, you are fantastic how much you have lost! Keep up the great work!!!

grits, About the snacks, look through these threads, there are a lot of portable snack ideas in them, hope this helps!

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lo...b-camping.html

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lo...vance-2-a.html

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Thanks guys. I am just working the program. It really works for me. Besides the weight loss, I just feel a lot better. I need to live life on this plan. Carbs really mess with my body and my mind. Eating this way for two months has proven that to me. It might not be the eating plan for everyone, but it is the one I need.

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