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Old 03-19-2009, 07:14 AM   #271
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I work with stock brokers, BUT at this time of year, it's the accountants who call and expect us to do THEIR work, whilst they make 200 bucks an hour....I'm hoping I'll be allowed to take some overtime.

Linda, I think I've had that port-yum, but probably lots of carbs. I love wine, but usually go for vodka to save on the carbs.

RE: the fennel/cabbage/radishes-I would have to measure them before cooking, right? I wish it would give ounces, not volume, for measuring-a cup of fennel is going to be hard to measure.

delmonico and asparagus grilled outside, mmmmmm (like Homer Simpson )
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What do you mix vodka with? The only thing I could think of is diet tonic water. Regular tonic water has alot of carbs. I could probably do that with Lime flavored vodka.

I've had Tequila over the rocks - nothing else and that's ok.

The reason I'm asking is that we are going out to eat with my husband's cousins this coming Saturday and that'll be a week that I've gone without - in accordance to rules of Atkins 72 1-week Induction. Hopefully, I won't backslide in my weight because of it.

I like rum and diet cokes but I think rum has alot of sugar. I think the distilled liquors are more compliant. The white and red dry wines are better for you but I don't like them.
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[COLOR="blue"]Re: the fennel measurements: I would just weight 8 oz. - that's a cup.[/COLOR]
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I have it with lemon flavored club soda and find it very refreshing.

8oz is an awful lot-hope you're right!! I plan on cooking it and of course it cooks down to a lesser weight. I am also going to try making radish "new potatoes" or "hash browns". Could be interesting. Actually, Julia has a recipe for sauteed radishes.
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Can I weigh my lettuce at 8oz too??
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I boiled radishes a week ago and pretended they were new potatoes w/ghee. Not bad. Hashbrowns sound better.
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Just kidding about the 8oz-trying to get as much as I can...that would be a LOT of lettuce (ugh)
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I use Coke Zero and Coke Zero with Cherry

[Carbs]

Ale, average, 375 ml [5]
Whisky, 30 ml [0]
Beer ,average, 375ml [7.5 ]
Wine, red, dry, rose, 120 ml [2.5]
Champagne, average, 120 ml [1]
Wine, red, sweet, 120 ml [2 ]
Bacardi, 30 ml [0]
Wine, white, dry, 120 ml [0.5]
Brandy, 30 ml [0]
Wine, white, sweet, 120ml [3]
Gin, 30 ml [0]
Wine, fortified, port, 60ml [7.5]
Rum, 30 ml [0]
Wine, fortified, sherry, dry, 60ml [1]
Vodka, 30 ml [0]
Wine, fortified, sherry, sweet, 60ml [6.5]




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What do you mix vodka with? The only thing I could think of is diet tonic water. Regular tonic water has alot of carbs. I could probably do that with Lime flavored vodka.

I've had Tequila over the rocks - nothing else and that's ok.

The reason I'm asking is that we are going out to eat with my husband's cousins this coming Saturday and that'll be a week that I've gone without - in accordance to rules of Atkins 72 1-week Induction. Hopefully, I won't backslide in my weight because of it.

I like rum and diet cokes but I think rum has alot of sugar. I think the distilled liquors are more compliant. The white and red dry wines are better for you but I don't like them.
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[COLOR="Blue"]Thanks Monkey! Vodka w/coke - hmmm - I'll try that. I see the Port Wine I love is 7 carb Rum is zero carbs and I do like Rum and Coke. Brandy on the rocks: 0 carbs.[/COLOR]




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I use Coke Zero and Coke Zero with Cherry

[Carbs]

Ale, average, 375 ml [5]
Whisky, 30 ml [0]
Beer ,average, 375ml [7.5 ]
Wine, red, dry, rose, 120 ml [2.5]
Champagne, average, 120 ml [1]
Wine, red, sweet, 120 ml [2 ]
Bacardi, 30 ml [0]
Wine, white, dry, 120 ml [0.5]
Brandy, 30 ml [0]
Wine, white, sweet, 120ml [3]
Gin, 30 ml [0]
Wine, fortified, port, 60ml [7.5]
Rum, 30 ml [0]
Wine, fortified, sherry, dry, 60ml [1]
Vodka, 30 ml [0]
Wine, fortified, sherry, sweet, 60ml [6.5]
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My menu:

Breakfast: hodgepodge of leftovers 2 hard boiled eggs sliced with 1 slice cornedbeef, topped with Kraft deluxe cheese and heated in the microwave.

Lunch: 3 chicken thighs with Frank's buffalo sauce for dipping. 2/3 cup of grilled asparagus.

Supper: Antipasto Salad - 2 cups - salami/cheese rolled up.

Later: thin fried hamburger w/1 slice Kraft Deluxe Cheese, onion slivers
Later: George Stella's goldfish crackers (they were good!)

Cal: 1536
Fat: 61%
Protein: 35%
Carbs: 17.5 grams
Fiber: 4.1

Went a little bit too much on the cheese today. But for the past 2 days I've been hungry. Hope I lose these 2 lbs so I can get out of Induction soon.
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Had a high cal day yesterday-over 2000; low carbs though, but my weight is back up to 157.9...ugh...stix is in the moderate range. Go figure.

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[COLOR="Blue"]Good Morning Girls!

[COLOR="Blue"]No weight change for a couple of days. Period (TOM) due in 4 days. No complaints.[/COLOR]

I was reading the message board on Atkins site - not active like here. Anyway, Atkins nutrionists blog said that NO WOMEN SHOULD EAT LESS THAN 1500 calories a day!

That surprised me. I supposed they are referring to the Atkins Diet but I wonder.

I bought both of George Stella's Low Carb cookbooks. He said that the main reason he gained so much is that he didn't eat enough during the day. He was a chef and that type of job doesn't allow for eating - it's a rushed, stressful job to say the least. He said that if you don't keep the logs burning in your furnace (food in your stomach) - then the fire goes out. Then...whatever you eat after that - goes right to FAT. That makes alot of sense.

Also, he emphasizes Breakfast being the most important meal and if you skip, you are setting your body up for storing fat the rest of the day. I know you are good about it, Donna. You know I am not. Since reading this, I have been eating breakfast - whether I want to or not.

I also believe that eating small amounts (grazing) during the day keeps your blood sugars stabilized which negates storing fat. Your body is constantly working to digest - the fireplace (stomach) is constantly burning the wood (food). Plus, your' tummy doesn't get inflated from a big meal. That has been my problem. All my life, I skip breakfast, eat a moderate to large lunch, then eat a huge dinner and the last 5 yrs - I still had to eat after supper. Staying up till midnight or later doesn't help this. When I worked the bank, I had to get up at 7:00 so I went to bed by 10:00 every night. I didn't need to eat after supper. In Auryvedic medicine, they feel everyone should be in bed by 10:00 when the "pitta" (fire) hour starts - that's when your digestive fires are burning fast. At midnight - it goes into slow kalpha (water) period and you get hungry and digest slowly.

I went through every page of Stella cookbooks and his recipes look so delicious. Both of them worth their weight in gold. The carbs for his recipes usually range from 0-8grams for most meals. His 2nd book he gives the lower fat style (option box) for those that want to reduce their fat and calories. His sons use the low fat, low carb way. He and his wife don't. Regular pizza crust with soy flour and a tablespoon of oat flour or bran - oh my! I do miss pizza crust but that'll be later when I'm on maintenance. [/COLOR]
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It'll take a couple more days of high protein and fat and very low carbs to make you go into ketosis. You body still has carbs in it from a couple of days. You should take a laxative too or metamucil or herbal colon cleanse - every other day. I notice a big difference. I don't take it because I am constipated --I take it to flush out.

With Atkins 72 - I think with all the meat and less veggies, you're more likely to store for a longer period of time. Meat digests slower than veggies.

Also, make sure you are not eating too many veggies. Salads are lighter in nature as opposed to cooked. Maybe make sure you eat some raw veggies - like raw fennel and radishes. For now, just wait a few days. You can always make adjustments later.[/COLOR]
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Interesting about Stella. Will you share the goldfish recipe?

Good advice re: 72, but I don't want to get in the habit of taking laxatives, although the herbal thing sounds interesting. Where does one get it? Re: his sons-I thought low cal/carb was not a good thing to do?

Stix are darker pink today..

I've always eaten the most at night, too, but have been in the habit of eating bkfst for quite a while. Occasionally at work I will have some of my lunch earlier, but that doesn't seem to help the hunger..

Heavy cream in my (decaf) coffee today. Yummmm

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Donna,
Cream cheese isn't on the list and is more for OWL.
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Will you share the goldfish recipe? [COLOR="Blue"]Yes, on a private message. Don't want to get into trouble.[/COLOR]

Good advice re: 72, but I don't want to get in the habit of taking laxatives, although the herbal thing sounds interesting. Where does one get it? Re: his sons-I thought low cal/carb was not a good thing to do?

[COLOR="Blue"]Metamucil is herbal. You can go to your local health food store and get "colon cleanse". Very easy. I don't take it every day - every few days.[/COLOR]

[COLOR="blue"]My daughter had a scolerois operation when she was 10 yrs old. From this operation, she had chronic constipation. She is very thin, but her stomach looked like 3 months pregnant. Mike told her to take magnesium citrate solution - worked 1 time - back to constipation. Fleet anema - worked slowly and 1x - constipation back, went to Bowel Specialist - told her to the the above she's been taken - no help. All the while, I was telling her about herbal colon cleanse that I've been taken. She didn't believe me. After months and months of bucking me - she took it. In a week - constipation gone. She has never needed to take it again. She humbly thanked me for the advice.

I've had customers that had chronic constipation and I've told him to do the same thing - finally, they did and it worked! It's not habit forming for you only take it for a week or two and it's natural. I'm not telling you to take
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Stix are darker pink today.. Good - lower carbs is what gets you in ketosis. That's why he avocated getting the strips in 1972 and now the newer versions play it down.[/COLOR]


I've always eaten the most at night, too, but have been in the habit of eating bkfst for quite a while. Occasionally at work I will have some of my lunch earlier, but that doesn't seem to help the hunger..[COLOR="Blue"] Eat a little breakfast, a little lunch, a little mid-afternoon snack, a little dinner, a little snack or two at night.[/COLOR]
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Ways to increase your metabolism - a read in process!

Reading a new book called "The Power of Your metabolism" - the causes and solutions to the "slow metabolism" that is creating weight problems and an obesity epidemic.

I'm right now on the chapter "Dehydration". That is the main cause of slowing your metabolism. If you're not drinking "water" , the body thinks it's food. Anything besides water is acidic and your body will work to alkaline it (by peeing). This goes for juices, milk and of course alcohol and coffee. Drinking a 12 oz carbonated soda (sugar free or not) causes so much dehyration that you would have to drink 32 glasses of water (8 oz) to bring it back to a neutral ph balance state 7.0!

To calculate how much water a person should drink is according to your body weight. Not the usual 8 (8 oz) of water. Here it is: your body weight divided by 16 =

In my case, it would be 8.88 glasses of water = almost 9 (8 oz) glasses of water.

Interestingly, he says that the more you are hydrated, the more your body resist drinking water. Some people think they will vomit if they drink any more (that's me). That is because the body "adjusts" to the dehydration by storing water. An indication of dehydration is: dark yellow pee, don't sweat much. It's the body's way of survival because it is storing.

He advocates those electronic scales that tell you your Hydration levels (my new one does). The more obese a person is, the less the amount of water can be detected in their body. In other words, being overweight really means having a lot of fat and very little water in the body. Thin people's bodies are amde up of up to 65% of water and those who are obese have a body water contents as low as 40%. As a person loses weight, the electronic scale detects both an increase in water and a reduction of fat.
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Not skipping breakfast, frequent small meals, and adequate water are the key! I didn't realize the soda was so dehydrating! The Atkins books do state we need to drink adequate water - and I don't. But I will now. Thanks for the info!
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Your welcome Monkey!

I didn't know either about the exact water requirements but instinctively knew that each body is different. Now that I know what my body will function best on - I will strive to achieve 9 -8oz water.

The truth is I was never a "drinker" of much. What little I drink is coffee. Since learning healthier eating, I've done away with my afternoon regular cokes and went to water but I am way too low on my water.

Sometimes, late at night, I get calf cramps, probably from dehyradrion. Someone told me psychically that I was lacking water and iodine. I didn't listen but I've noticed that since I've upped my water and salt intake, I don't have the muscle cramps I've used to. I may be hypo-thyroid - I need to get a blood test that my doc gave me the other day to get. Planning on doing this Monday w/12 hr fast. So, with this knowledge I've been reading, I'd better walk my talk and take action if I want to see any improvements.

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Interesting discussion on metabolism. Tell us more.

Had my RHS outing last night-food and wine, then duckpin bowling. Never done it, kinda fun, but no finesse involved.

High cals, high carbs yest., but I ate pretty much the same as everyone else and certainlyl didn't pig out.. 1 piece veg pizza, left end crust; couple glasses wine; sweet and sour turkey meatballs-about 4-5; eggplant dip with pita crisps; brie; just interesting to see how most of us eat. BUT then when I got home I was hungry so had my addictive Trader Joe's roasted red pepper and tomato soup with some low carb bread, and some leftover fauxtatoes.

The closest I could come with my stats is 2442 cals; 54% fat; 15% carb; 17% protein and , uh, 14% alcohol. Interesting....

No ex. today-too tired. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it...

Today I am trying the 72, but we are going over to my daughter's to see my gson and have dinner-no alcohol, but her husband is a good cook. I will do my best. They tend to be fairly low carb...

So far-2 xlg eggs fried in.5 coconut oil and 1t butter.

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[COLOR="Navy"]I went to our Native American International World Prayer meeting last night. We always eat afterwards. I brought Atkins food - huge tray of salad, tray of broccoli, califllower, ring bologna, cheese, Newman's Own Olive Oil and Red Wine dressing.

The woman's house we were at made home-made ravioli's stuffed with riccotta and spinach - no sauce. Looked great but did not partake. There were cakes and coolies, chips, pretzels etc. I just ate my food - so did Arnie. I was not hungry when we left.

Yesterday's ******: Calories: 1443, Protein: 28%, Fat: 69%, Carbs: 3% - 9.9g, Fiber: .5

Tonight is our dinner date at Texas Roadhouse - a steakhouse (my choice) with Mike and his cousins. They were the ones that got us together 26 yrs ago! Believe it or not, I'm not hungry for beef or steak now. I've had that one day of just beef and I'm beefed out. If I don't order it, I will get harassed because that's the theme of going there. They have these huge baked yams with cinnamon sugar butter oozing out of them and I used to get them without the cinnamon butter but tonight I won't even be eating the potato. Hopefully, I can just get 2 veggies. They also make homemade out of the oven dinner rolls - ughhh. Luckily, Mike wont' eat them because of his wheat sensitivity so I won't be the only nerd not partaking! [/COLOR]
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They sound interesting but I guess you have to use American, not "real" cheese?

I have a couple low carb books but never use them. Carbs always seem high. You really like these, right?
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[COLOR="Navy"]I went to our Native American International World Prayer meeting last night. We always eat afterwards. I brought Atkins food - huge tray of salad, tray of broccoli, califllower, ring bologna, cheese, Newman's Own Olive Oil and Red Wine dressing.

The woman's house we were at made home-made ravioli's stuffed with riccotta and spinach - no sauce. Looked great but did not partake. There were cakes and coolies, chips, pretzels etc. I just ate my food - so did Arnie. I was not hungry when we left.

Yesterday's ******: Calories: 1443, Protein: 28%, Fat: 69%, Carbs: 3% - 9.9g, Fiber: .5

Tonight is our dinner date at Texas Roadhouse - a steakhouse (my choice) with Mike and his cousins. They were the ones that got us together 26 yrs ago! Believe it or not, I'm not hungry for beef or steak now. I've had that one day of just beef and I'm beefed out. If I don't order it, I will get harassed because that's the theme of going there. They have these huge baked yams with cinnamon sugar butter oozing out of them and I used to get them without the cinnamon butter but tonight I won't even be eating the potato. Hopefully, I can just get 2 veggies. They also make homemade out of the oven dinner rolls - ughhh. Luckily, Mike wont' eat them because of his wheat sensitivity so I won't be the only nerd not partaking! [/COLOR]
What willpower!
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