This can't be right

2big4britjez · 07-03-2008, 11:05 AM

The day had only begun and out of 20 carbs, I've already used up HALF?? And this will pretty much be a morning routine....

2 cups coffee (13 oz mug, 1 .5oz Half & Half, 2 Splenda pkts ea) = 6 carbs
Metamucil (8 oz water, 2 heaping tsp.) = 4
I've been taking only 1 tsp but didn't have any *affect*

Can someone please tell me this just ain't right?

RiotGirl08 · 07-03-2008, 11:10 AM

maybe you could try benefiber instead of metamucil? The benefiber has only 1 net carb per serving. Benefiber
I don't drink coffee, but if you use 1.5 oz heavy cream, that's only 1 carb (well, 1.25 carbs to be exact, I think)
Also, maybe try liquid splenda instead of packets to save those 2 carbs

Doing all that would cut you back to only 3-4 carbs instead of 10
HTH

2big4britjez · 07-03-2008, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiotGirl08

maybe you could try benefiber instead of metamucil? The benefiber has only 1 net carb per serving. Benefiber
I don't drink coffee, but if you use 1.5 oz heavy cream, that's only 1 carb (well, 1.25 carbs to be exact, I think)
Also, maybe try liquid splenda instead of packets to save those 2 carbs

Doing all that would cut you back to only 3-4 carbs instead of 10
HTH

Oohh! Thanks for the link!! Gonna go get some of that!!

Will pick up some liq Splenda too (assumed it was the same as packets).

Thank you!!

RiotGirl08 · 07-03-2008, 12:01 PM

whoops, OK... I didn't mean to say liquid "Splenda", I meant liquid sucralose. The brand Splenda doesn't make a liquid to my knowledge. You can buy it online- some online auction sites have it for roughly $6 per ounce, or you can buy the brand Sweetzfree online for roughly $17 per ounce. Or you can try Stevia, I think that's pretty common in health food stores or GNC. I have no clue how much that costs.

2big4britjez · 07-03-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RiotGirl08

whoops, OK... I didn't mean to say liquid "Splenda", I meant liquid sucralose. The brand Splenda doesn't make a liquid to my knowledge. You can buy it online- some online auction sites have it for roughly $6 per ounce, or you can buy the brand Sweetzfree online for roughly $17 per ounce. Or you can try Stevia, I think that's pretty common in health food stores or GNC. I have no clue how much that costs.

I tried that last year when I was doing low-carb (yeah, gained it all back!), but I didn't like the taste at all. I added more thinking that would help, but it didn't. I ended up selling it on eBay.

Is Sweetzfree similar in taste?

RiotGirl08 · 07-03-2008, 03:09 PM

yeah, I tried Stevia once, and that was all it took for me!

I've never tried Sweetzfree, because I think its RIDICULOUSLY overpriced. It's liquid sucralose, is all it is. Which I can get online for around $25 for a 4 ounce bottle. That 4 oz bottle lasts me well over 6 months.

2big4britjez · 07-03-2008, 03:18 PM

I honestly don't know how anybody likes that stuff.

Well, with eating half my carbs this morning, I'm still full. And if I don't eat anything, my body will probably think it's being starved and won't release the poundage either!! Can't win!

metqa · 07-04-2008, 12:21 PM

check out EZ-Sweetz Also. They have a website and shipping is only 99cents and it comes fast. It is in little bottles really convenient for a purse (if you carry one) and one drop is sweet as 2 teaspoons sugar and there are no carbs cause there is no filler.

ProStores Maintenance

But darned if the store isn't "undergoing maintenance" right now so you can't look at it for today. Bah!

The little bottle is like $3.99 or so and has 180 single drop servings

BarbDe · 07-04-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 2big4britjez

The day had only begun and out of 20 carbs, I've already used up HALF?? And this will pretty much be a morning routine....

2 cups coffee (13 oz mug, 1 .5oz Half & Half, 2 Splenda pkts ea) = 6 carbs
Metamucil (8 oz water, 2 heaping tsp.) = 4
I've been taking only 1 tsp but didn't have any *affect*

Can someone please tell me this just ain't right?

Wow. There isn't even any FOOD there

2big4britjez · 07-04-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbDe

Wow. There isn't even any FOOD there

I know! It's unbelievable!!

BarbDe · 07-04-2008, 12:57 PM

My breakfast consisted of 3 eggs, 2 slices of cheese, 2 slices of bacon, some minced onion, banana pepper and cherry tomato. Came to 10 carbs total. 8 net.
I think you need to rethink things. I would never make it. But I need my breakfast. That's where I usually get the bulk of my carbs in.

metqa · 07-04-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbDe

Wow. There isn't even any FOOD there

Good point. Is your metameucil Sugar Free? Where did the 4g come from?

One I've got says 5 carb:3g dietary fiber 2g soluble fiber

BarbDe · 07-04-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by metqa

Good point. Is your metameucil Sugar Free? Where did the 4g come from?

One I've got says 5 carb:3g dietary fiber 2g soluble fiber

Yeah, that's what I was just looking at too.

Are you not doing "net" carbs 2big4britjez?

BarbDe · 07-04-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2big4britjez

The day had only begun and out of 20 carbs, I've already used up HALF?? And this will pretty much be a morning routine....

2 cups coffee (13 oz mug, 1 .5oz Half & Half, 2 Splenda pkts ea) = 6 carbs
Metamucil (8 oz water, 2 heaping tsp.) = 4
I've been taking only 1 tsp but didn't have any *affect*

Can someone please tell me this just ain't right?

Are you using 2 Splenda packets in each cup of coffee, for a total of 4 packets??
If so, that should be counted as 4 carbs right there. 1 per packet.
and 1.5oz of Half and Half per cup?
Or am I reading this wrong.

DarleenMB · 07-04-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RiotGirl08

I've never tried Sweetzfree, because I think its RIDICULOUSLY overpriced. It's liquid sucralose, is all it is. Which I can get online for around $25 for a 4 ounce bottle. That 4 oz bottle lasts me well over 6 months.

Nonsense. I bought the 4 ounce bottle in March and I"m still using it. And I drink 4-5 mugs of coffee a day with about 4 drops of sweetzfree per mug. I like it sweet.

2big4britjez · 07-05-2008, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbDe

Are you using 2 Splenda packets in each cup of coffee, for a total of 4 packets??
If so, that should be counted as 4 carbs right there. 1 per packet.
and 1.5oz of Half and Half per cup?
Or am I reading this wrong.

All calculated by Fitday
Coffee, Regular, 12 oz = 1
Splenda (2 pkts) = 2
.5 oz Half & Half = 1
Multiply times 2

Totals 8

2big4britjez · 07-05-2008, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbDe

I think you need to rethink things. I would never make it. But I need my breakfast. That's where I usually get the bulk of my carbs in.

Yeah, I do eat breakfast, but my point was even before any food, I was already adding up the carbs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by metqa

Good point. Is your metameucil Sugar Free? Where did the 4g come from?

One I've got says 5 carb:3g dietary fiber 2g soluble fiber

Hmmm....interesting point here. I use the same sugar-free stuff, but how do the 2g soluble fiber get counted in this? I've just subtracted the dietary from total carbs and that left me with 2 carbs. I got "4" carbs in my breakfast cuz I put in 2 teaspoons! (Can you tell I'm desperate?

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Lil Red · 07-05-2008, 12:42 PM

I just use the liquid saccharin....never bothered me and 0 carbs. Plus I prefer heavy whipping cream & it has less carbs. I am a huge coffee drinker so I know all too well how fast those coffee carbs add up.

BarbDe · 07-05-2008, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2big4britjez

Yeah, I do eat breakfast, but my point was even before any food, I was already adding up the carbs.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Something is going to have to go.
Can you drink coffee black?
I went from a cream and sugar girl, to just cream when I worked at a place that had no sugar. Then figured, heck I would just go to black.
Actually, then I gave it up when I started Atkins in 2004. Boy was that an induction headache!

Kris T. · 07-05-2008, 01:20 PM

Well, you could try:

Going down to 1 cup of coffee
Switching to heavy cream
Using half a packet of Splenda in your cup
Using half the amount of Metamucil, but same amount of water..assuming fiber could come later on in the form of veggies.

GL-Kris

metqa · 07-05-2008, 01:25 PM

I don't count the fiber at all "dietary" fiber (also known as insoluble fiber) is the solid stuff, soluble is the squishy stuff, but neither is digested so I don't count any fiber as carbs. technically it says twenty calories, but they count fiber as a carb, so that is stupid. the maltodextrin has carbs but very little. the reason packet of splenda is counted as 1 carb is because of the malto, but it is likely it is not a full carb so it is rounded up for safety.

Cream has a little less sugar than half and half which is half cream and half milk. A half oz of cream has less than half a carb, 0.4g whereas a half oz half n' half is .7g. Splitting hairs really but the cream is so much better and has more fat I'm sure.

I think if you don't count the metameucil fiber you will gain 4 grams to play with, switchin out the cream give you and extra half a carb. so you get 4.6 carbs to have more.

Oh and get a liquid splenda to chop of two more carbs and you are up to 6.4 free carbs.
Whew!

2big4britjez · 07-05-2008, 02:35 PM

Well I just went to CVS and picked up some sugar free, chewable "Fiber Choice" that lists total carb 4 with dietary fiber 4 and soluble fiber 4, so that equals ZERO.

Gonna switch to Heavy Cream and get some liquid splenda too.

Thanks guys!

suzanneyea · 07-06-2008, 04:48 AM

I had the same problem when I started, all my carbs were in non healthy forms like splenda. I cut back my coffee to 1 cup a day with one equal and heavy cream, the heavy cream makes it sweeter so you will not need two packages. I also stopped taking extra fiber and my body regulated itself it that area. Now, I make sure my carbs come from the fruits and veggies. Lettuce has taken over as my fiber source, lol.

ragtopwife · 07-06-2008, 08:45 AM

May I suggest sugar free coffee syrup? Use the davinci's, Torani, etc. I find them at SuperWalmart, Target, or most large grocery. The syrups use liquid splenda, so syrup + hvy cream instead of (1/2 & 1/2) would really help drop the carbs.

speedy · 07-06-2008, 10:44 AM

Nu Naturals brand stevia is very good no bitter taste just sweet Whole Foods sells it I am thinking somewhere around $ 6 or so for 50 pkts. no carbs .....I can understand how if you purchase the wrong brand you can hate it .Before I found Nu Naturals I tried stevia in a green box forget the brand and it ruined my whipped cream I used for my raspberries oh it was real bitter .Good luck in your diets everyone

07-03-2008, 11:05 AM	#1
2big4britjez MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,079 Gallery: 2big4britjez Stats: 237/213/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: June 23, 2008	This can't be right The day had only begun and out of 20 carbs, I've already used up HALF?? And this will pretty much be a morning routine.... 2 cups coffee (13 oz mug, 1 .5oz Half & Half, 2 Splenda pkts ea) = 6 carbs Metamucil (8 oz water, 2 heaping tsp.) = 4 I've been taking only 1 tsp but didn't have any affect Can someone please tell me this just ain't right?

07-03-2008, 11:10 AM	#2
RiotGirl08 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,603 Gallery: RiotGirl08 Stats: 199/pregnant/120 5'2" WOE: LC Start Date: 10/20/07	maybe you could try benefiber instead of metamucil? The benefiber has only 1 net carb per serving. Benefiber I don't drink coffee, but if you use 1.5 oz heavy cream, that's only 1 carb (well, 1.25 carbs to be exact, I think) Also, maybe try liquid splenda instead of packets to save those 2 carbs Doing all that would cut you back to only 3-4 carbs instead of 10 HTH Last edited by RiotGirl08 : 07-03-2008 at 11:11 AM.

07-04-2008, 12:21 PM	#8
metqa MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 1,938 Gallery: metqa WOE: Moderate Carbs/Atkins Start Date: November 2003	check out EZ-Sweetz Also. They have a website and shipping is only 99cents and it comes fast. It is in little bottles really convenient for a purse (if you carry one) and one drop is sweet as 2 teaspoons sugar and there are no carbs cause there is no filler. ProStores Maintenance But darned if the store isn't "undergoing maintenance" right now so you can't look at it for today. Bah! The little bottle is like $3.99 or so and has 180 single drop servings Last edited by metqa : 07-04-2008 at 12:22 PM.

07-05-2008, 01:25 PM	#21
metqa MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 1,938 Gallery: metqa WOE: Moderate Carbs/Atkins Start Date: November 2003	I don't count the fiber at all "dietary" fiber (also known as insoluble fiber) is the solid stuff, soluble is the squishy stuff, but neither is digested so I don't count any fiber as carbs. technically it says twenty calories, but they count fiber as a carb, so that is stupid. the maltodextrin has carbs but very little. the reason packet of splenda is counted as 1 carb is because of the malto, but it is likely it is not a full carb so it is rounded up for safety. Cream has a little less sugar than half and half which is half cream and half milk. A half oz of cream has less than half a carb, 0.4g whereas a half oz half n' half is .7g. Splitting hairs really but the cream is so much better and has more fat I'm sure. I think if you don't count the metameucil fiber you will gain 4 grams to play with, switchin out the cream give you and extra half a carb. so you get 4.6 carbs to have more. Oh and get a liquid splenda to chop of two more carbs and you are up to 6.4 free carbs. Whew! __________________ "You have to understand zat ven a vampire forgoes . . .the b-vord, zere is a process zat ve call transference? Zey force Zemselves to desire somesing else? . . .But your friend chose . . . coffee. And now he has none." "You can find him some coffee, or . . .you can keep a vooden stake and a big knife ready. You vould be doink him a favor, believe me." １０年より若い１０時間で　私は8時間　を終わったことがあります。

07-06-2008, 10:44 AM	#25
speedy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: florida Posts: 61 Gallery: speedy Stats: 138/136/115 WOE: atkins induction again Start Date: april 26,2008	try this kind Nu Naturals brand stevia is very good no bitter taste just sweet Whole Foods sells it I am thinking somewhere around $ 6 or so for 50 pkts. no carbs .....I can understand how if you purchase the wrong brand you can hate it .Before I found Nu Naturals I tried stevia in a green box forget the brand and it ruined my whipped cream I used for my raspberries oh it was real bitter .Good luck in your diets everyone

07-03-2008, 12:01 PM	#4
RiotGirl08 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,603 Gallery: RiotGirl08 Stats: 199/pregnant/120 5'2" WOE: LC Start Date: 10/20/07	whoops, OK... I didn't mean to say liquid "Splenda", I meant liquid sucralose. The brand Splenda doesn't make a liquid to my knowledge. You can buy it online- some online auction sites have it for roughly $6 per ounce, or you can buy the brand Sweetzfree online for roughly $17 per ounce. Or you can try Stevia, I think that's pretty common in health food stores or GNC. I have no clue how much that costs.

07-03-2008, 03:09 PM	#6
RiotGirl08 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,603 Gallery: RiotGirl08 Stats: 199/pregnant/120 5'2" WOE: LC Start Date: 10/20/07	yeah, I tried Stevia once, and that was all it took for me! I've never tried Sweetzfree, because I think its RIDICULOUSLY overpriced. It's liquid sucralose, is all it is. Which I can get online for around $25 for a 4 ounce bottle. That 4 oz bottle lasts me well over 6 months.

07-03-2008, 03:18 PM	#7
2big4britjez MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,079 Gallery: 2big4britjez Stats: 237/213/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: June 23, 2008	I honestly don't know how anybody likes that stuff. Well, with eating half my carbs this morning, I'm still full. And if I don't eat anything, my body will probably think it's being starved and won't release the poundage either!! Can't win!

07-04-2008, 12:57 PM	#11
BarbDe MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SE Florida Posts: 2,753 Gallery: BarbDe Stats: Quit smoking 11/4/07; 6/4/08 204/204/170 WOE: Atkins Start Date: August 2004	My breakfast consisted of 3 eggs, 2 slices of cheese, 2 slices of bacon, some minced onion, banana pepper and cherry tomato. Came to 10 carbs total. 8 net. I think you need to rethink things. I would never make it. But I need my breakfast. That's where I usually get the bulk of my carbs in.

07-05-2008, 12:42 PM	#18
Lil Red Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 41 Gallery: Lil Red Stats: 162/125/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 2005	I just use the liquid saccharin....never bothered me and 0 carbs. Plus I prefer heavy whipping cream & it has less carbs. I am a huge coffee drinker so I know all too well how fast those coffee carbs add up.

07-05-2008, 01:20 PM	#20
Kris T. Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 780 Gallery: Kris T. Stats: Was 140, now 113 @ 5'3" WOE: Atkins-2002-maintaining Start Date: 2/25/08	Well, you could try: Going down to 1 cup of coffee Switching to heavy cream Using half a packet of Splenda in your cup Using half the amount of Metamucil, but same amount of water..assuming fiber could come later on in the form of veggies. GL-Kris

07-05-2008, 02:35 PM	#22
2big4britjez MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,079 Gallery: 2big4britjez Stats: 237/213/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: June 23, 2008	Well I just went to CVS and picked up some sugar free, chewable "Fiber Choice" that lists total carb 4 with dietary fiber 4 and soluble fiber 4, so that equals ZERO. Gonna switch to Heavy Cream and get some liquid splenda too. Thanks guys!

07-06-2008, 04:48 AM	#23
suzanneyea MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Quebec Posts: 1,025 Blog Entries: 3 Gallery: suzanneyea Stats: 120 WOE: Atkins	I had the same problem when I started, all my carbs were in non healthy forms like splenda. I cut back my coffee to 1 cup a day with one equal and heavy cream, the heavy cream makes it sweeter so you will not need two packages. I also stopped taking extra fiber and my body regulated itself it that area. Now, I make sure my carbs come from the fruits and veggies. Lettuce has taken over as my fiber source, lol.

07-06-2008, 08:45 AM	#24
ragtopwife Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SC Posts: 300 Gallery: ragtopwife Stats: 218/185.5/145 WOE: Atkins Start Date: March 2006 - 218/172 & July 27 2008 @ 196	May I suggest sugar free coffee syrup? Use the davinci's, Torani, etc. I find them at SuperWalmart, Target, or most large grocery. The syrups use liquid splenda, so syrup + hvy cream instead of (1/2 & 1/2) would really help drop the carbs.

07-06-2008, 12:36 PM	#26
TiffJake Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 137 Blog Entries: 7 Gallery: