fat fast

[willyd]

Jim ,can you post a sample menu you have in a day?Ive been doing lowcarb for two months and only lost 16LBS and you lost 68 in 3months your doing some thing i must not be i weigh 300Lbs right now.

[SweetestDork]

Originally Posted by Jim_1970

Hey sweetest dork,
can u post a sample day of you do on the fat fast...just log a day by time and what you eat when you eat. That would really be helpful.

Thanks, Jim

Hi Jim... this is what i ate yesterday....

8am - 2 scrambled eggs with cheese, 3 slices bacon
10am - handful macademia nuts
12pm - heaping spoonful of peanut butter
2pm - handful of sunflower seeds
4pm - 3 pieces pepperjack cheese
6pm - half a handful of macademia nuts and a chunk of cheddar cheese


for the most part im not hungry. I drink alot of water.... if i feel myself getting hungry after 6 i will have some pepsi one because the carbonation seems to help my stomach feel full.

Today im starting breakfast at 10 and will go until 8 which may be a better idea since eating later and not such a long period between last meal and the time i go to bed.

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by willyd

Jim ,can you post a sample menu you have in a day?Ive been doing lowcarb for two months and only lost 16LBS and you lost 68 in 3months your doing some thing i must not be i weigh 300Lbs right now.

Congrats on those 16 pounds gone willyd
have you seen your doc to rule out any medical reasons your weight loss is going slow

[willyd]

I think i drink to much diet pepsi 2 two liters a day, plus a pot of coffee could that be messing with my insulin plus i am not counting the carbs in the soda?

[2big4mysize]

ouch I hear you on the caffiene issue I was a 24 a day DC drinker ging into atkins and gave that up cold turkey.
there are also some reports of diet soda actually causing weight gain. I was suprized when a well known diet guru talked on one of the talk shows about dropping 15 pounds just not drinking them cause they bloated him.

[SweetestDork]

Originally Posted by willyd

I think i drink to much diet pepsi 2 two liters a day, plus a pot of coffee could that be messing with my insulin plus i am not counting the carbs in the soda?

WOW on the diet pepsi and pot of coffee!!! You should def. cut wayyyyy back on that stuff. I wouldnt drink diet pepsi either because it has aspartame.. the pepsi one is sweetened with splenda.

I would think that much caffiene is messing with your weightloss.

Why are you drinking so much willyd??

[NewYorkGiants32]

So, basically the only difference between doing the Fat Fast and doing Atkins is the lack of veggies in the fat fast??

[SweetestDork]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGiants32

So, basically the only difference between doing the Fat Fast and doing Atkins is the lack of veggies in the fat fast??

well thats alot of it anyway. But you need to eat alot of fat.... gotta eat fat to burn fat as the good Doc said

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGiants32

So, basically the only difference between doing the Fat Fast and doing Atkins is the lack of veggies in the fat fast??

actually no Atkins does not limit our calories fat fast does 1000
and the protein intake is lower and the fat intake is much higher which is why it is only for metabolically resistant folk and only for a few days at a time not to goal like Atkins is.

[willyd]

I think i drink well i know i drink that much to kill my appatite and it gives me energy then some times it makes me nerveous and i have to take a nerve pill(LOL).Today already i have drank a 2 liter and a 54oz fountaine diet pepsi and its only about 1pm.But as of today i will quite drinking diet soda and more water that has to be whats holding my weight loss back.

[2big4mysize]

be careful going cold turkey the headache from the casffiene withdrawal almost made me quit Atkins. if day 4 hadn't arrived so calm and headache free I would have punted and still be 300+ piunds.

[Califrog]

Yeah, if you do quit cold turkey (which I did, too) you just have to be aware the headaches are going to be horrible for a few days. If you have nothing planned this weekend, quit drinking soda Friday around noon, and go to bed with a case of bottled water and aspirins! You'll feel better by Monday.

[SweetestDork]

you can do a modified fat fast where you can consume more calories than just 1000 as well.

[SydneyN]

Originally Posted by Califrog

Yeah, if you do quit cold turkey (which I did, too) you just have to be aware the headaches are going to be horrible for a few days. If you have nothing planned this weekend, quit drinking soda Friday around noon, and go to bed with a case of bottled water and aspirins! You'll feel better by Monday.

This is what I did when I gave up caffeine! Started on a Friday and by Monday I was okay. But I did a lot of sleeping on Saturday and Sunday. And I also noticed I was almost depressed. It was just my body going through withdrawals. But, trust me, it is sooooo worth it! You will be glad you did!

And you said you drink that much because you're hungry, well I have a feeling the aspertame is what's making you hungry. It can also cause cravings.

Good luck!

[willyd]

How would a modified fat fast be for example?I would love to lose a pound a day or five a week.

[SweetestDork]

Originally Posted by willyd

How would a modified fat fast be for example?I would love to lose a pound a day or five a week.

what ive been doing is basically a modified fat fast cuz i eat more than the 1000 calories and ive lost 4 1/2 pounds in 2 days so weight loss is def. dramatic so be careful if you do it. I posted a sample menu as well. In one of my other posts it had some modied fat fast foods, but here it is so you can reference it.



Modified Fat Fast Meal ideas

* 2 cheesecake muffins 296 cal 86%
* 1/2 c Almond Accents 320 cal, 84%
* 1/3 c cream with 4 strawberries and 1 T slivered almonds 332 cal, 90%
* Whole avodcado with 1 T caesar salad dressing - 347 cal, 90% fat
* Whole avocado mashed with 1/3 can tuna - 370 cal, 80% fat
* Same as above, substituting moderate portion of chicken or beef
* Add two eggs to a melted 1.5 tablespoons of butter and scramble. 302 cal, 82% fat
* 2 scrambled eggs, add 1.5 ounces cream cheese when almost done 297, 76%
* 15 pecan halves, 3 tablespoons of cream 301 cal, 93%
* LC cheesecake with no crust (the perfect breakfast!)
* 1 boned chicken thigh. Stuff with 1 oz cream cheese and 1-1/4" slice
onion that's been grilled in 1 T butter 309 cal, 77% fat
* 1 chicken thigh or other protein. Saute spinach to remove moisture, then add 2 tablespoons butter.
* 2 oz cream cheese/10 halves chopped pecans. Make nut balls. 297 cal, 90%
* Caesar salad with chicken or salmon.
* 3 oz cream cheese/1/2 c chopped artichoke heart blend. 339 cal, 80%
* 1/2 c ground beef, 1/2 avocado mashed, and a little sour cream
* Egg salad - 2 lg boiled eggs with 1.5 T mayo 297 cal, 80%
* Custards
* Puddings made with whipping cream and/or sour cream
* Panna Cotta
* Pizza salad - sausage, mozzarella cheese, and lots of veggies



Snack ideas

* Heaping spoonful of whipped cream (sweetened SF, of course)
* 5 pecan halves
* Macadamia nuts
* SF chocolate if it agrees with you and doesn't stall you.
* Melt a SF chocolate bar. Slowly stir in a little cream. Eat it that way, or fold in some whipped cream to make a mousse.
* Coffee with 1/4 cup cream.
* 11 almonds
* Small chunk of cheese
* Spoonful or two of whipping cream
* Peanut butter
* Chocolate mousse
* Latte with sugar-free amaretto flavoring
* 1/4 cup heavy cream in your favorite sugar-free soda

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by willyd

How would a modified fat fast be for example?I would love to lose a pound a day or five a week.

how about just making one change at a time to see what effects you so you know. if the drinks are effecting you then giving them up could jumpstart your weight loss and the fat fast isn't needed.

You have the rest of your life to get to goal and every day you are eating Atkins healthy WOE you are improving your blood sugar numbers, you are improving cholesterol profiles and the artery clogging effects so please that the times to test and retest changes to be sure you are doing the healthiest things for your body.

the modified fat fast is still low carb protein deficient espeically for a 300 pounder.

[SweetestDork]

willy, do what feels right for you and YOUR body. Dont be discouraged. Lots of us are doing the fat fast just fine with no problems and its a great motivator if nothing else. In fact on the modified fat fast you can do it longer than the 3-5 days recommended for the regular fat fast. Youre gonna do just fine!

[SweetestDork]

i also found this on the internet that looks like it has some different recipes than was previously posted....



a. 2 oz. cream cheese
b. 1 oz. macademia nuts
c. 2 oz. sour cream plus 1 tsp. caviar on 3-4 pork rinds
d. 2 deviled eggs yellow halves (not whites) on 3-4 pork rinds
e. 2. oz. chicken or egg salad made with double mayonnaise
f. 1. oz. of any of above in ½ small avacado
g. 2-½ oz. whipped heavy cream with artificial sweetener and vanilla

Other 200-calorie substitutes (with quite a bit of duplication):

1. # 1/4 cup heavy or whipping cream in a large mug of coffee (I use
this to jump start my day and prevent abuse of those near and
sometimes dear to me. In the summer I make it the night before and put
it in the refrigerator, then pour it over ice. You could also pour it
into popsicle molds and freeze it for Coffee Fat Fasticles. Yum!)

2. # 4 strips of bacon

3. # Peanut Butter Cream Cheese

* 1 ounce cream cheese
* 1 tablespoon sugar free peanut butter
* 1 tablespoon heavy or whipping cream
* 10 drops Liquid Sweet & Low (or artificial sweetener of your choice)
* 1/8 teaspoon ground cinnamon

Blend all ingredients in a small bowl.

Serves 1. Approximately 208 calories.

***Note: If you life this one, make up several servings at one time
and stick them into the refrigerator in custard cups for individual
servings. That way you only have one cleanup.

4. # 2 ounces of cream cheese stuffed in one large celery stalk

5. # 1/2 pork rinds with 2 ounces of sour cream

# Pork Rinds With Sour Cream Dip (This is not my recipe - Judi (Island
Girl) forwarded it to me.)

* 1/2 ounce plain pork rinds (1/6 of 3-ounce bag)
* 1/4 cup sour cream
* 1 tablespoon grated parmesan cheese

Blend parmesan into sour cream and use as dip for pork rinds

Without Parmesan: 164 calories, 8 grams fat (79%)

With Parmesan: 187 calories, 15 grams fat (77%)


6. # 2 tablespoons of sugar free peanut butter on an approximately 7
1/2-inch stalk of celery.

7. # 1/4 cup heavy or whipping cream, whipped, sweetened with
artificial sweetener, and flavored with vanilla or some other extract.

8. # 2 ounces of sour cream on approximately 1/2 cup sliced cucumber.

9. # Tuna or chicken salad with triple the usually amount of mayonnaise.

I cook the bejeebers out of a whole chicken in the crockpot until the
meat is literally falling off the bones, then shred the meat and save
it for chicken salad or for soups. I strain the broth carefully (watch
for small bones!) and freeze it.

I will usually reuse the broth to cook more than one chicken, which
results in a superb, flavorful extra-strength broth which is great to
sip on if you're sick.

10. # 2 egg yolks mashed up with lots of mayonnaise, salt, and pepper
(like you would for deviled eggs), but eaten plain or with a few pork
rinds, cucumber slices, or a celery stick

11. # Peanut Butter Pudding (This is Rani Merens' recipe.)

* 2 tablespoons of sour cream
* 1 teaspoon sugar free peanut butter
* Splenda (to taste)

Combine all the ingredients. This thickens up magnificently, and can
either be eaten "as is" or partially frozen, but don't let it get rock
hard unless you just want to suck on it.

***Note: If you life this one, make up several servings at one time
and stick them into the refrigerator in custard cups for individual
servings. That way you only have one cleanup.

12. # 1/4 cup heavy or whipping cream in a can of diet soda (any flavor)

13. # 1/2 package sugar free Jell-O in 1/2 cup whipped heavy or whipping cream

14. # 1/4 cup heavy or whipping cream, whipped, with 1 teaspoon
unsweetened cocoa powder and a few drops of liquid artificial
sweetener added (to taste).

***Note: If you life this one, make up several servings at one time
and stick them into the refrigerator in custard cups for individual
servings. That way you only have one cleanup.

15. # Jell-O Whip (Someone named Chris sent this to me a couple of years ago.)

* 1 small package sugar free Jell-O (any flavor)
* 1/2 cup boiling water
* 4 ice cubes
* 8 ounces cream cheese, at room temperature and cut into cubes
* 4 tablespoons heavy or whipping cream

Dissolve the Jell-O completely in the boiling water, then add the ice
cubes to cool it down and to thicken it.

When the ice cubes are melted, pour the gelatin mixture in the blender
and add the cutup cream cheese. Whirl it around until the ingredients
are completely blended. Pour the mixture into a mixing bowl.

Whip the four ounces of cream, then fold it into the cream cheese mixture.

Divide the mixture into 5 equal portions, cover each with plastic
wrap, and put them in the refrigerator to chill.

This makes 5 servings, or all the you need for one day of the Fat
Fast. Of course, you wouldn't have to eat all 5 servings in one day.
You could alternate them with other food choices.

16. # Cream Cheese Jell-O Chunks (Someone sent me this idea, too, but
I've misplaced their name).

10 ounces cream cheese, cut into 20 equal squares (Not softened!) 1
small packet sugar free Jell-O, any flavor

Pour the dry gelatin powder into a small bowl or onto a salad plate. Set aside.

Roll the 20 cream cheese squares into balls. Roll each ball in the dry
gelatin mixture. Place the coated balls on a plate, cover them with
plastic wrap, and put them in the refrigerator until you're ready to
eat them

Each Fat Fast serving is 4 balls.

17. one ounce of macadamia nuts

18. one ounce of macadamia nut butter

19. two ounces of cream cheese

20. two ounces of Brie

21. one ounce of tuna or chicken salad with two teaspoons of
mayonnaise served in one-quarter of an avocado

22. two deviled eggs made with two teaspoons of mayonnaise two ounces
of sour cream and two tablespoons black or red caviar

23. two and a half ounces whipped heavy cream topped with sucralose
zero-calorie syrup

24. two ounces of pâté (check label for fat content)

25. two egg yolks (hard-boiled) with one tablespoon of mayonnaise

26. 1-1/3 ounces of beef chuck (do not drain fat) cooked in 1 1-3
tablespoons of olive oil

27. 1 1/3 scrambled eggs with 1 1/3 strips of nitrate-free bacon

28. 1 1/3 tablespoons of full-fat sour cream with a 2/3 tablespoon of
sugar-free syrup

29. 1/6 cup chicken or tuna salad made with 1-2/3 tablespoons of mayonnaise

30. 2 ounces of pâté (check label for fat content)

31. 1 ounce of macadamia nuts

[willyd]

How long do you think a person can stay on the fatfast?and not harm them

[2big4mysize]

Lots of us are doing the fat fast just fine

can you link us to posts by those other doing just fine? I see 2 doing it in this topic who are on day 2 but that doesn't mean they are just fine long term since the damage from the lack of protein and cals hasn't manifested itself yet in visible symptoms nor have they tried to return to noral low cal eating.

While you have explained in another topic you were 4 weeks into induction and not stalled out but wanted faster weight loss ofr a wedding you are planning to attend so you jumped to the modified fat fast doesn't mean it should be done nor will be healthy for a 300 pound slow loser to follow espically when the creator of the plan Dr Atkins says it is dangerous.
and yes you are correct per Dr Atkins do it is safe to do the modified fat fast longer upto one week instead of the 3-5 days again the person attempting the fat fast and then the modified fat fast has to qualify as metabolically resistant something 16 pounds gone in induction isn't

[SweetestDork]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

can you link us to posts by those other doing just fine? I see 2 doing it in this topic who are on day 2 but that doesn't mean they are just fine long term since the damage from the lack of protein and cals hasn't manifested itself yet in visible symptoms nor have they tried to return to noral low cal eating.

While you have explained in another topic you were 4 weeks into induction and not stalled out but wanted faster weight loss ofr a wedding you are planning to attend so you jumped to the modified fat fast doesn't mean it should be done nor will be healthy for a 300 pound slow loser to follow espically when the creator of the plan Dr Atkins says it is dangerous.
and yes you are correct per Dr Atkins do it is safe to do the modified fat fast longer upto one week instead of the 3-5 days again the person attempting the fat fast and then the modified fat fast has to qualify as metabolically resistant something 16 pounds gone in induction isn't

I always seem to find myself somehow having to answer to you so yet here i go again! I have SEVERAL friends who are on atkins and are currently doing the fat fast. Why do you assume im talking about JUST people on this board??

The lack of protein is a lame argument. Hell i did the water fast for 16 days with NO protein and im doing just fine, im still alive!! If it was about lack of protein then why does Dr A say that people who ARE metabolically challenged can do the fat fast safely? arent THEY doing without protein? So YOU tell me what the danger is.

YOU have an issue with everything i post on here from eating the frankfoods to doing the fat fast.... is it because it WORKS FOR ME and that upsets you?

[12yrslater]

How about allowing people to do as they please?

No offense TO ANYONE but aren't we adults? As adults aren't we capable of making the deicisions that best fit our needs?

Again, no offense to anyone. But it seems that in most threads, someone is bashing someone else because of what they are doing to lose weight! LIVE AND LEARN. LIVE AND LET LIVE!!!!

Muchos kisses

[12yrslater]

SweetestDork <--- Makes me giggle EVERYTIME!
I am following your progress. I am in a challenge this month but would be willing to try the Fat Fast if the results seem good and thus far, you are doing great!

[jenna...]

I'm starting the Fat Fast. too....

I agree I'm tired of the 'Nanny Diet Police' on this board too. This is a big board and there is room for us all here.

[Califrog]

I think the problem 2big has is that someone with no credentials whatsoever - not a doctor, not a scientist, not someone who has developed a weight loss program - is advocating something that an actual expert who most people here respect - Dr. Atkins - has said is dangerous for all but a small percentage of people who are metabolically resistant.

Though I am also a newcomer to these boards, I feel certain it is very frustrating for those long-timers here who have successfully followed Atkins (or some other plan) to see someone "making things up as they go along" counter to Dr. A's actual advice and then attacking anyone who tries to point out that it *might* not be a great idea.

2big can of course speak for herself, but that's the trend I see with these types of "instant expert" posts that don't follow the advice of actual experts.