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#181 | |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 297
Gallery: Wolfgang
Stats: 286/249/220; 6'2"
WOE: LC Vegetarian
Start Date: February 14, 2009
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By the way, although I fully agree that staying away from sweeteners is a good idea, remember that the "packet" sweeteners have a carbohydrate "filler" in them to add volume so it's easier to use (the amount of aspartame or sucralose in a packet is actually a tiny fraction of the powder). That's the main reason why you count a packet as 1 carb. What they add into foods during production usually doesn't have this (no need), so although you should avoid sweeteners where possible, a glass of artificially sweetened tea from the grocery store jug will have less carb than if you take unsweetened tea and add packet sweetener. |
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#182 | |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 297
Gallery: Wolfgang
Stats: 286/249/220; 6'2"
WOE: LC Vegetarian
Start Date: February 14, 2009
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Also, the "low carb" bars often contain sugar alcohols and other things that aren't exactly induction-friendly, as does the ice cream. Besides that, they can be sort of "empty" foods that trigger us to eat them like the snacks they are, and still feel hungry. Carbsmart ice cream, for example, has something like 4g of net carbs per serving (and a serving is pretty small), plus a lot of sugar alcohols. Eat a pint or a half gallon, and you're going to blow it on induction and maybe even put yourself over the limit for maintaining some level of ketosis and the resulting loss of hunger even if you're on maintenance. I eat salad like a horse. Ken's Original (not light) Blue Cheese dressing has 1g carb, and it's pretty thick, so I toss it well and add a tiny bit of EVOO to thin it out. I also don't use very much. If I'm eating out and dealing with dressing I'm not 100% sure of, I get the dressing on the side and dip my fork in it before each bite. You use surprisingly less of it that way and still get enough taste in every bite. |
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#184 |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 297
Gallery: Wolfgang
Stats: 286/249/220; 6'2"
WOE: LC Vegetarian
Start Date: February 14, 2009
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You're welcome! I don't worry about it when I'm home with "known" dressing, but I found that when I'm eating out, I can do this and use only about 1/3 of what they give me. If I poured it all on, I'd never notice and probably feel like I needed more!
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#185 | |
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Junior LCF Member
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We're detoxing from carbs and all that sweet taste. THAT'S why we're limiting sweeteners. It has nothing at all to do with how many carbs are in the Coke Zero. |
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#186 |
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Junior LCF Member
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Help-really losing hope
Hello all you great people out there. Okay, this is a last desperate post. I keep thinking I'm doing most everything right, and then for one reason or another, it just doesn't work for me. I was on atkins for almost 2 weeks this time, (11 days) The first few days I lost about 6lbs. Then I found I started gaining and after making some eggplant fries I gained almost everything back. Got depressed, had a disagreement with my fam, and started eating off the program. Now I am back to where I started from. I have started and stopped this WOE so many times it is hard to count. When I was younger I did lose, but now it just seems impossible for me to lose on this WOE. Current weight-280, goal 123. I have been drinking water. I try to keep my appetite in check. I have not been using the keto stix as they never show me in ketosis when I drink lots of water. I only exercised 1x while on induction. I don't sleep at night and I am so tired all the time, but I do know I need to exercise more. I wonder if I am eating wrong, too much food, too much fat, too many carbs? I find that my carb count in Calorie King was several carbs over 20 on a consistent basis, even though I tried like heck to keep them below 20. Could that make SUCH a big difference? I tried doing some cooking off the food porn thread for induction so I would not get bored and cheat, but maybe I should just stick to the very basic stuff. Does anyone have any suggestions for a menu I should follow for two weeks? Does posting my past menu seem like a good idea? Help, I really need help. Shellie
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#187 | |
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MAJOR LCF POSTER!
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Welcome Broodizt/Shellie
[COLOR="Red"]First of all WELCOME! [/COLOR]
![]() [COLOR="navy"]I'll write my comments within your text so I don't miss anything. Monday, it'll be 2 weeks induction for me so I am not an expert but I've done this diet 5 yrs ago with success. I am a slow loser but later I gain momentum. I would like to lose 10-15 lbs. For these two weeks, I have been able to pretty well stick to the model of: Fats: 60-100% Protein: 20-30% Carbs: 20 grams daily If you don't already have one of the Atkins book, I would advise you get it. You can even borrow it from your library. Reading it will give you the faith which is the 1st step. Then, he'll tell you want is allowed (or not) for Induction Phase, OWL Phase, Pre-Maintenance, Maintenance phase. [/COLOR] Quote:
I post what I eat on the thread ... called: ANY ONE ON INDUCTION NEEDING TO LOSE 10-15 LBS. Check it out. Otherwise, post a day or two of what you ate and we'll take a look at it. [/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]We are all here to help and to accomplish our goals [/COLOR]
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#188 |
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Junior LCF Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: near Lincoln, NE
Posts: 4
Gallery: Buddy2Cats
Stats: 5 feet tall 190.2/184.6/140 or less
WOE: Atkins
Start Date: February 21, 2009
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Thanks for the post... I stalled after only 10 days on Induction!
Thank you for posting this about the stall. I have been on the Induction for 10 days now, and initially I lost 8 lbs (I weighed 190 to start, dropped down to 182 by day 6, but day 7 I went up to 183.8, and this morning it is up to 184. I know I am probably obsessing too much about the fact that it has gone up 2 pounds again, but am afraid that I am hitting a stall.
I have followed the Induction program religiously, even going as far as spending 300 bucks for all the stuff I needed to prepare the meals for my husband, son and I. (And I gave my Ex-husband 8 boxes of groceries of stuff I could no longer have! I TOTALLY cleaned out my cupboards, deep freeze and fridge so NOTHING would be there to tempt me.). So why is it that my husband who has 100 lbs to lose has lost 12 lbs in one week and keeps losing daily, when I have stalled out? He even snacks more than I do on string cheese, beef jerky, and pork rinds at work. I limit myself to the 3 meals a day, and 2 snacks. Yes, I don't have as much to lose as he does ( I want to lose about 60), but I go to the YMCA to exercise a half hour a day, and he isn't doing any exercises at all. I AM FRUSTRATED!!! Could the Splenda snacks such as SF jello, or the Atkins Bars be causing the stall? I am not giving up on this, as I actually feel ten times better than I did a week ago and have a LOT more energy and brighter outlook on life. Any suggestions?- Buddy2Cats
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#189 |
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MAJOR LCF POSTER!
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Buddy2Cats,
My observations: Because you don't have as much as your DH has to lose is why he is losing faster. Men tend to lose weight faster in general. I don't know how old you are but especiallly middle aged men tend to lose faster than middle aged woman. We have hormones to deal with that men don't. (not to sound sexist) Middle age women have that thing called "menopause and estrogen imbalance" that makes it tougher for us to lose than men. Yes, Atkin bars and SF desserts stalls alot of people. Some people's bodies process artificial sugar "like" regular sugar - in other words, their blood sugar becomes unstable; the body stores it as fat. Actually, a lot of people that are following Atkins don't partake the Atkins Bars or SF Jello's till after Induction. I'm on Induction and I have my Atkins bars in the cupboard just waiting for me to dig in but instinct tells me not to eat it "yet". Excercise for women is especially important because we have less muscle mass than men. When women's muscles are challenged and builds thru excercise, it speeds up our metabolism - which burns fat. So, going to the YWCA is a good thing! Keep doing it because it is healthier for our bones, heart and general wellbeing. So, while initially, he may be losing faster right now (without much effort) , you will probably catch up to your goal sooner. It's not a race and keep in mind it's healthier to lose weight at a slower pace to allow your body to adjust. Think of the stalls as the time needed for your body to adjust to its weight loss thus far. Good luck! |
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#190 |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Arizona
Posts: 731
Gallery: heatherdazy
Stats: highest ever: 214 (2004) this time:164/159/105
WOE: Moderate carb JUDDDD
Start Date: Switch from Atkins to JUDDDD April 5
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Buddy2cats, how is that a stall? You weigh 6lbs less than you did only TEN days ago. Are you kidding me? What kind of loss were you expecting?
Jeez! |
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#192 |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 297
Gallery: Wolfgang
Stats: 286/249/220; 6'2"
WOE: LC Vegetarian
Start Date: February 14, 2009
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If you mean Heatherdazy's post, I think we all gotta remember that sometimes we're all hard on ourselves and feel like losing "only" X amount of fat is a failure, when it's not - just a little slower success (and in the case of 6 pounds in 10 days, it's still a whopping success.)
I think Heatherdazy is right on target. It might be a little tough love on her part, but she's right - it's not a stall (read DANDR on stalls again), and it's always better to be realistic. It's not a speed competition, it's one of endurance and permanence. I started a thread after I lost 13 pounds in 14 days on induction, then over the next 2 weeks or so of still going "by the book", I "only" lost 3 pounds and it was frustrating as heck; I got addicted to the speed of it. Lots of people chimed in to remind me to be patient, and I'm still doing that. I'm just keepin' on keepin' on... and looking forward to a pleasant surprise when things get back in balance and it starts to peel off a little more quickly again. A good reminder for me is that if I keep "failing" at the rate of 1.5 lbs. lost a week, I'll probably be at single digit body fat and seeing a nice six pack before this time next year. Good luck! |
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#193 | |
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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,504
Gallery: 2big4mysize
Stats: 313 to current goalie 169-173
WOE: Atkins 2002
Start Date: june 1 2002
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Please don't compare your pounds lost rate to somebodyelses. according to your profile you need to shed 50 pounds so shedding 6 is the same % loss as your DH's 12 since he has 100 to shed. What are you doing for the mandatory exercise part of your Atkins? Have you measured to see the inches of body fat being burned off. I'm sure you read DANDR and know Dr Atkins said to only weigh once a week so you got a great start and are feeling better and working to the day 15 weigh in where you will be amazed that you are smaller and healthier. Back when Dr Atkins was alive the bars actually had their own section on his website about what to do when your weight loss stopped while eating them. the answer was to not eat them or just have 1/2. I don't know about you but if a product rated its own stalled eating it page then I would not be eating it period. Can't wait to see your day 15 yipee I lost ____ post
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#194 |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Arizona
Posts: 731
Gallery: heatherdazy
Stats: highest ever: 214 (2004) this time:164/159/105
WOE: Moderate carb JUDDDD
Start Date: Switch from Atkins to JUDDDD April 5
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#195 |
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Junior LCF Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: California
Posts: 47
Gallery: LifeIsShort21404
Stats: 215.5/207/135
WOE: Atkins
Start Date: 3/09/09
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I think the point of this forum is for people to support one another. Let's not censor other people's opinions or thoughts or dictate to anyone on what someone should or shouldn't be feeling.
AA has a saying that goes, "Principles, not personality." |
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#196 |
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Junior LCF Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 1
Gallery: lamom
Stats: 171/175/148
WOE: atkins
Start Date: March 17
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Hello,
I am new to this and I also am feeling very frustrated. I actually gained 2lbs in 2 days. I am soo cranky dieting. When does the weight start comming off???? Just venting. |
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#197 |
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Junior LCF Member
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I'm new to this board but would love to seek some advice. I started Atkins on Feb. 16, 2009.
I am 5'5 and started at 170 lbs. I've never been rail skinny and always struggled with my weight. I'm an asian female, so even though i haven't always been overweight, i've never been like most of my friends who are skinny without trying. My happiest weight where I am most comfy is about 125-130, but as long as fitting back into my clothes and toned, i don't care if i don't hit 125 ever again. However for my mental clarity My goal is 125. Within the first day, i saw ketosis on my sticks, had awful breathe and was dying of thirst. By day 2, the scale had gone from 170 to 168 and i was energetic, felt less bloated and all around happy. I kept on going... By the following week I had reweighed myself the next monday to see that i had lost another 1-2 pounds falling at about 166-167. I kept on going... Stayed in ketosis daily, cheated a little with eating some pepperoni. Also used shakes and bars here and there. Went to California for my engagement party where i successfully stayed on Atkins, avoided my engagement cake and everything. I did have a few rum and cokes (bacardi rum) for my friends bachelorette party... Came back and weighed myself on that monday morning. (2 weeks). I was down to 163. YAY! I not only successfully avoided bad carbs, but i weighed less. The next day, that Tuesday, I decided to reweigh myself. 168. Still in Ketosis 168. Since then, I've been obsessed with my scale. 167-169 it fluctuates every morning. And aside from the initial bloating that disappeared, my inches have not changed. Last week, I had a really irritable bowel (TMI I know) so i stopped taking my supplements and the diarrhea is gone. Today, another 2 weeks later, I'm still in Ketosis. I'm thirtsty, have smelly urine, breathe is not dragon but its not great... trying to get all my carbs from veggies, eggs, etc... and on average my calorie intake does not exceed 1500. I exercise about 2-5x a week as well... mostly cardio but at least 30 minute sessions, on top of a 1 mile walk to work and a 1 mile walk from work, and a early morning brisk dog walk. My average meal is eggs with little cheese/veggies scrambled, 3 pieces of bacon, lunch is tuna salad 2-3 scoops with mixed greens or caesar salad, and dinner, a big meat serving with more veggies in the form of salad or spinach or asparagus and mushrooms. I also drink about 90 OZ of water a day at least. I have cut out the bars, shakes, and reduced the cheese... in fear of food allergy. I'm not yeasty unless i am and not showing it in obvious areas... And i keep getting small minor headaches since last Thursday. I've read the same things all over, too many calories, too many fats, or too little calories or possibly food allergy... I'm just curious if anybody else out there has been in induction, stayed in ketosis, stuck with the diet and lost only 2 pounds overall in 4 weeks...and no real inches lost... is this normal? Please help! ![]() Last edited by ajcrb; 03-18-2009 at 12:49 PM.. |
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#198 | |
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Junior LCF Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: The other Washington, West Coast
Posts: 57
Gallery: gdlovins360
Stats: 18/12/10
WOE: Atkins/low carb
Start Date: Nov. 1, 2008
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Hope others comment, this thread is so big, can't read through all of it now. Last edited by gdlovins360; 04-02-2009 at 02:02 AM.. |
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#199 | |
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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,504
Gallery: 2big4mysize
Stats: 313 to current goalie 169-173
WOE: Atkins 2002
Start Date: june 1 2002
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There are lots of plans out there that are low carb some very good and some dangerously lacking in any science and/or nutrition. That said the Atkins plan is a high fat moderate protein and low carb plan. Fats use one hormone to be metabolized and liberated and glucose based energy uses a different hormone for metabolism one that stores fat. Since the majority of Atkineers want to liberatr body fat and burn it off as fuel we want the most time spent with fats being the primary energy supplier and glucose being used in very small amounts. MAny folk abuse thier atkins because Dr Atkins thought we'd understand unlimited didn't mean gorge till your belly was about to bust on fatty foods and treats and do so often during the day cause the carbs are under 20 grams for the day. He knew proteins are pretty much self limiting in consumption and without the carb foods blood sugar swings stimulating out appetite we would not be feeling the urge to eat as often so we could eat higher fat foods to provide the cals we needed in smaller sized feedings. If you do a low fat dressing on your carbs you miss out on a healthy source of fats to keep the insulin low and the fat burning hormone high cause you will be eating more of your cals as carbs and proteins that waywhich are both metabolized for energy as glucose. People don't need to use a fat free or low fat dressing. If you are over eating cut back a bit of your proteins and carbs too not just fats. If you are stalled ask yourself did I stop eating my meal when I was no longer hungry or did I keep eating cause I had room in my belly food on the plate and carbs in the budget? Am I doing the mandatory exercise part of my Atkins both the resistance and the aerobic and have I increased the intensity and/or duration as I got smaller to keep my exercise cal expenditures the same. As we get lighter we burn less cals doing the exact same things so when a super obese person loses 50 pounds if they were female that just dropped 450 cals of their Basal metabolism and if they are a light weigh exerciser 585 cals off their AMR each and every day. Eating the exact same meals they started Atkins eating and doing the exact same amount of exercise isn't going to give them the same results. Many super heavy weights who go on to become goalies call it their ah ha moment when they realize even though it is legal to eat 3000 cals a day they do not need those 3000 cals a day each and every day any more and need to feed only their hunger and not eat the menu from day one. |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Fairfax, VA
Posts: 357
Gallery: BusyB
Stats: 180.4/162/130-135
WOE: Modified Atkins Induction
Start Date: October, 12, 2008
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![]() I blew it on thanksgiving and during school exam week in December but went back on and lost whatever I gained and maintained the loss at 13lbs.Travelled abroad in December, so blew the plan, then tried WW and other low cal plans in Jan & Feb only to go up to 170lbs. Now I am back on plan since March and have struggled to lose ever since. ![]() ![]() A trainer friend told me it's natural for my body to resist and that I would have to alter my eating habits significantly while staying low carb (she said I have to deprive myself and get used to being hungry). Most discouraging, I actually cheated after the talk ![]() ![]() ![]() Now I am stuck losing lbs, sometimes 2 lbs a day and going down to 165lbs only to wake up the next day by going up to 167, sometimes 169. It then takes over a week to lose what I seemed to gain overnight, til I am down to 165 and then bam, another weight gain, all the while eating the same kind of stuff. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I really can't figure out what is happening and have actually debated whether I should switch to another WL plan, like WW or something. ![]() |
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#202 |
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Junior LCF Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 59
Gallery: KristiB123
Stats: 223/205/150
WOE: Low carb
Start Date: 2/16/2009
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I am on week 6 of induction and have been stalled since week 3. I am getting very discouraged! Any ideas on how to break this stall?? I have tried carb cycling, eating more fat, less carbs/....HELP!
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#203 |
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MAJOR LCF POSTER!
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Post your menu for the next 3 days and we can take a look at it.
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#204 |
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Junior LCF Member
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week 11---inches lost no weight
Hi
ive done ww since sept 2005 and lost 200 pounds then after a stall of 5 months i decided in march to try atkins..ive lost inches and i look smaller but weight has not shifted....i ate 20 carbs a day..now a friend who is a trainer on line said do 65 carbs..im giving him 45 as of yesterday i do 45 minutes treadmill 4 days aweek yes i have alot of excess skin which surgery will remove but even if i have 40 lbs of skin ill still just be 200 pounds im a bout to give up my menus are like this 2 EGGS AND 1 EGG WHITE 2 ALMONDS 6 SLICE OF PROVOLONE 2 ATKINS BAR 2 MUG OF DECAF TEA 0 1 LITER WATER-PLAIN 0 2 BACON CHEESBURGERS GILLED NO BUN 2 1 LITER WATER-WITH LEMON FLAVOR ADD IN 0 ATKINS BAR 2 ALMONDS 3 |
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If you are on Atkins Induction then stick to 20 grams of carbs and eat clean according to the book. I would stay away from Atkins Bars and almonds. That's more for the OWL plan of Atkins. The goal is to get into Ketosis as soon as possible - then the lbs will come off. But, having said that, if you are losing inches - that's fat. Fat doesn't weight much and yet it takes up a lot of volume! Your clothes will fit better regardless of the scale. Dr. Atkins says in his book that the measuring tape is your friend - not the scale. Water should be at least (8) 8 oz glasses per day. Very important in flushing out the fat. Make sure you take a high potency multi vitamin and magnesium oxide so you don't get constipated. Water weight will come off first - then once you're in Ketosis, your body will burn the "fat" - not the carbs. The body is made to burn in this order: 1) Alcohol 2) Carbs 3) Fat Dont give up! Be patient with yourself and let your body adjust to the new way of eating! ![]() |
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#206 | |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Living in State of Confusion!
Posts: 648
Gallery: alexandra1
Stats: (200/192.5/135)
WOE: Atkins/Protein Pow/ PCOS
Start Date: Restart May 10th, 2009
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I noticed the same thing as well, maybe I AM eating too few carbs. maybe I should have the 1/2 cup of strawberries with some cream and add some fat thanks for the insight. ![]() |
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#207 | |
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2 boiled eggs for breakfast salad w/meat for lunch meat with 2 veggies for dinner and strawberries and cream for snack and drink water I do my eliptical for 3 days a week, going 3 miles in 30 mins. on level 3 or 4. I have only lost 5lbs in 3 weeks. However, I have not been perfect from day one. I had a wedding and I planned on eating what was available, as it was my wedding receiption. I had hoped to lose 12 lbs. In the past I lost 10 or so in 2 weeks. Is it possible to over do the cream in the strawberries? My clothes are fitting much better and actually are lose. Matterof fact the jeans i am wearing today could be pulled right off with out unbuttoning! But what about the scale? I am frustrated since I used to look forward to the scale and now I get nervous incase I get on it like I did this morning and it remains the same. I just need a little Pep talk! ![]() thanks, Laura
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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,504
Gallery: 2big4mysize
Stats: 313 to current goalie 169-173
WOE: Atkins 2002
Start Date: june 1 2002
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are you doing the 92 atkins? if not then strawberries are not induction food. they are OWL level 4 food.
Cream comes with a warning that it may slow or stop some peoples weight loss during induction and so we whould watch our consumption and cut back if it does. I hope you are having some fat with your salad and veggies as Atkins is a high fat moderate protein low carb diet. |
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Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 537
Gallery: Gibby
WOE: Atkins DANDR
Start Date: Augut 8, 2009
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I've just finished week 1 of the Induction Phase of DANDR. I lost 8.6 pounds. I know that things will slow down, but I am being very "by the book". I eat a wide variety of meats, a lot of eggs, REAL butter (I don't recommend using the "I can't believe it's not butter", but I could be wrong), cheese and the 3 cups of legal vegetables per day. I only use EVOO for salad dressing with vinegar.
When I feel satisfied, I stop eating and I only eat snacks if I'm hungry. I hope this helps...and I hope it keeps working!
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