Stalled or gaining on induction??

[Cosmicstargoat]

Originally Posted by can't weight

No- the book makes it pretty clear this is not a high protein diet. The new book also has a chart based on gender and height. It tells you how many grams of protein you can eat daily. It's pretty generous so as long as you haven't been going crazy it should be fine.

Thank you. I'm getting lots of help in the thread I created. Cheers.

[rashell03]

Hi, I am also new and doing ketosis. I printed out all the acceptable foods and "naughty" foods, I have lost 5lbs in a week but would like some menu ideas as I am getting bored with just chicken and brocc or cauli, eggs, cheese, etc. Do you have any good menu suggestions? Im asking you as you seem very informative on the subject. Thanks

[can't weight]

Hi here's my sample menu that I posted in another thread. I would do a search because there are TONS of threads on menu ideas. There is also the induction food porn thread that is full of delicious induction friendly foods- with pictures!!


Day 1
B= Coffee with 1T heavy cream, 1 T VCO
L= Salmon fillet, with homemade hollandaise sauce, and brussels sprouts
Sn=coconut bark
D= Steak, with green beans and butter


Day 2
B= Coffee with 1T heavy cream, 1 T VCO
Sn= coconut bark
L/D= curried shimp and veggies made with coconut cream, served over 'riced' cauliflower (cauli shredded in the food processor to rice size pieces then steamed in the microwave)
Sn= cream cheese cloud

D3
B= nothing
Lunch= leftover curry- no 'rice'
D= Huge salad with bacon, ham, proscuitto, an egg and tomato
Sn= coconut bark

D4
B=Coffee with 1T heavy cream, 1 T VCO
L= faux potato soup- made with cauliflower, bacon, and cheese
D= Boursin cheese stuffed chicken breasts 'breaded' in seasoned parmesan cheese. Served with green bean bundles- wrapped in bacon
Sn= 3 minute chocolate cake- made with almond meal, cocoa powder and artificial sweetener

D5
B= nothing
L= deli plate (hard boiled egg, a small pickle, salami slices, cubed gouda and cheddar, cucumber slices, smoked salmon, mayo and mustard for dipping)
D= Fried chicken wings- coated in a hot sauce/butter dressing- served with sliced sweet peppers and ceasar dressing.

D6
B= bacon and eggs
L= taco salad ( lettuce topped with seasoned ground beef, tomato(you could use sugar free salsa), sour cream, shredded cheese)
D= 'pizza' with bacon, onions and red pepper
S= coconut bark

D7
B= cold leftover chicken wings
L= greek salad
D = lemon rosemary chicken thighs with a caprese salad (fresh basil, bufala mozzarella, and tomato)
S= coconut bark

[rashell03]

I cant lose wt fast either and it is so frustrating. Been eating alot of chicken with mushrooms or brocc and cauli but at a stall I really want some good menu ideas!!!

[can't weight]

well it looks like you're doing well. At least 10lbs in July- that's awesome!

I would definitely spice things up. There are SO many things you can eat on induction and even more as you move up the rungs. Get creative. Eating the same things over and over will bore you and may cause you to give up. What is you favourite non-LC dish. There is usually a lc version that we can tweak!

[Cosmicstargoat]

Originally Posted by can't weight

well it looks like you're doing well. At least 10lbs in July- that's awesome!

I would give up my family jewels to lose 10 lbs.

[can't weight]

;well depending on how big those jewels are - that might just do the trick!

[Cosmicstargoat]

Originally Posted by can't weight

;well depending on how big those jewels are - that might just do the trick!

Obviously too big, just like the rest of me.

[Jiminjax]

Stuck with the program, which was easy for me, and ketosis finally kicked in and 7 more pounds flew off my body! Don't give up hope! Stick with it, it will work.

[Flavia]

Originally Posted by Carola

I'm continually stalled and I'm in re-grouping mode right now. I'm on Induction since March 1. I haven't had any junk at all, I've never been so good in my life. BUT...every pound lost is a frigging struggle and I'm tired of it. I'm sorry, but eating the way I do I expect faster loss. I'm probably within 20 pounds of my goal, and I know it's supposedly harder to lose at that point, but isn't 1 to 1.5 .lbs a week reasonable?

I think I'm the most carb sensitive insulin producing person on earth.

SOOOO, my latest approach is this:

10g carbs max, possibly less. I seem to do best at 10-15.
No dairy AT ALL.
No coffee.
More eggs
no veggies except lettuce, limit that to 2 cups or less.
More fat
More water

I know that sounds silly, but everything else is gone gone gone and I can't figure out what else to do.

My calories tend to be low, but I'm not going to worry about that end of things. I was just reading Atkins '72 and he basically said count carbs, not calories. Since I'm not on the high side of the calorie equation, I'm not going to worry.

Carola- Where in cali are u??? My sisters name is Carola. I am right outside San Diego.

[Flavia]

Originally Posted by Cosmicstargoat

Here is what I have been eating.

Breakfast- 3 slices bacon, 3 eggs topped with cheese sometimes

Lunch- One lb. lean ground chuck 94/6 w/26 g protein 540 cal

Dinner- One or two steaks or chicken breasts
iceburg lettuce salad w/ two slices tomato, bacon bits, cheese,
Blue cheese dressing 2g carbs in dressing.

Tons and tons of water.
No bread, no beer, no other carbs. I'm not hungry, I just feel wierd. Am I doing something wrong or eating too much?

Ok, this is what I would do. Breakfast looks good. Lunch I would eat less meat, but slightly more fat and some veggies. zuchini in butter or mushrooms in butter or I cook some fresh broccoli in bacon with some bacon crumbles yumm yumm
Dinner I would do half the protein again and a bit more fat
def snack sometime during the day or after dinner. Personally I like the creamcheese muffins or sfjello with whipcream or frozen whipcream as icecream etc,.....
Good luck

[lunacoqueta28]

Originally Posted by CharlieGirl

I have just recently rejoined these boards after almost four years away. I did Atkins before and lost twenty pounds. (I am post-menopausal and an extremely slow loser)

I have plenty of sympathy for those of you in ketosis who are not seeing a pay-off on the scale because I have been in that situation myself. But realize that this doesn't mean you are not losing fat! One of the oddities of Atkins is that sometimes when you are losing fat, your body thinks it will keep those fat cells at the ready by filling them with water. If you look around on these boards, I'm sure you will find many references to this phenomena. Anyway, maybe my experience will help you:

I went on Atkins for the first time about four years ago. It was June 1st. I lost about four pounds in the first week of ketosis; second week two pounds; then ... nothing!
Week after week I had the bad breath and metallic taste in my mouth so I knew I was in ketosis, but the scale stayed the same. The only thing that kept me on Atkins was inertia --- I had lost most of my appetite, which was nice, and the diet was actually easier for me than my normal way of eating, as far as food prep.

Still, for two months, no weight loss, not an ounce. Then, when I had given up hope and was not even weighing my self regularly (too depressing), I suddenly lost 10 pounds! No one loses 10 pounds of fat in one week unless they are starv-ing. "Something" strange happened. The next week I lost six pounds.

When I say I lost this weight I don't mean that it came off a little at a time through the week; it was one day there and the next day gone. Since that time I have had many people tell me of similar experiences. I hope you will stick to it and stay on the diet. Think of it as an experiment in this very (in my opinion) weird way of losing weight.

That is amazing... your pounds just dropped from one day to the next.... I wonder why all of the sudden and not little by little... Interesting!!!!

[junamoss]

Any ideas?
So I lost 8 the first week. 4 the second week. gained one this week. on induction. I have been in ketosis. Have not "cheated". Drink a ton of water. Added crystal light a couple of weeks ago....continue to drink coffee...i work nights. Do I stick to it? Another week?
My migraines stopped the day I stopped eating carbs.
cindy

[can't weight]

I will never know what this thread is in the induction section- because it is likely that inductors can not answer....

But this is completely normal and is known as the post-induction stall. It happens to the best of us.

I stalled week 3-5, however I did lose inches which kept me motivated. I would measure yourself now- I bet even if you don't lose weight in the next 3 weeks you will lose inches.

Definitely stick with it. You can't give up that easy!! Get some enthusiasm for this WOE. Learn why this isn't just the most efficient way to lose weight, but the healthiest way of eating. Conviction that this is the right way for you to be eating no matter what really helps when the weight loss slows.

The fact that you are migrane free is reason enough!!

Best of luck- and the Main Lowcarb lobby is the best place to ask questions- there are senior LCers there with so much advice and information!

[Carola]

Originally Posted by g3rmanchik

Carola- Where in cali are u??? My sisters name is Carola. I am right outside San Diego.

Hi Christina...I'm near Lake Tahoe. I've never ever met another Carola, although there are a bunch of European singers with that name...one Swedish, another one Italian, I think!

[wheels]

I am new to this website but a life long dieter. I am a 46 yr old male, and my quick story goes like this...in 1988 at age 24 I was 420 pounds! I lost 170 on nutra system, gained about 80 back but never went back to 420. I went on weight watchers in 2004 and lost 60 pounds. I gained 20 of that back over the last 5 years. So now i weight around 278 for a while now. I had done Atkins back in 2002, but had trouble sticking on it and ate the wrong foods. Two weeks ago I got the atkins for life book and finally GOT IT! I've been a regular AT THE GYM FOR 10 YEARS NOW, so I can't say that I haven't moved more. I went on Induction all pumped up and have followed it right for a week in a half now , I've lost only 2 pounds!! I been on diets most of my life and I think my body has had it...LOL, but I will not quit and hopefully my stubboness will make me start losing weight, any suggestions would be helpfull. This is a great site by the way!!!

[Peccatore]

Originally Posted by can't weight

I will never know what this thread is in the induction section- because it is likely that inductors can not answer....

But this is completely normal and is known as the post-induction stall. It happens to the best of us.

I stalled week 3-5, however I did lose inches which kept me motivated. I would measure yourself now- I bet even if you don't lose weight in the next 3 weeks you will lose inches.

Definitely stick with it. You can't give up that easy!! Get some enthusiasm for this WOE. Learn why this isn't just the most efficient way to lose weight, but the healthiest way of eating. Conviction that this is the right way for you to be eating no matter what really helps when the weight loss slows.

The fact that you are migrane free is reason enough!!

Best of luck- and the Main Lowcarb lobby is the best place to ask questions- there are senior LCers there with so much advice and information!

can't weight-
Félicitations, tu es belle
This is why I love this forum. Sometimes you just need a big E-hug or a pat on the back for taking charge of your life. That absolutely delicious looking cookie, croissant, bagel,... You have to say no. No cheating. We have a precious number of years on this planet and we do not have to live 'em large (you know what I mean). Keep on plan, this is our lives and we own them. Ignore the stalls. It happens. This diet plan seems magical, but like everything in life it takes determination. I have found that the most rewarding part of it is the emotional determination and perseverance. You find yourself along the way, and you will love yourself.

[can't weight]

Originally Posted by wheels

I went on Induction all pumped up and have followed it right for a week in a half now , I've lost only 2 pounds!! I been on diets most of my life and I think my body has had it...LOL, but I will not quit and hopefully my stubboness will make me start losing weight, any suggestions would be helpfull. This is a great site by the way!!!

I definitely think your metabolism was probably affected by all the up and down. I'm sure Atkins has a section talking about if you lose a small amount on induction it can be indicative of a metabolic issue. He has a bunch of tips for that. Find that part of your book and re-read it.

Also if the lose continues to go slowly- I would post what you are eating in a new thread on the Main Low Carb board. It gets more traffic by senior LCers with lots of great advice. It is most helpful to post the quantities for what you are eating too. Although Atkins is great- it is not one size fits all, and many of us can't have everything in the same quantities. Many of us have to watch the cheese and cream, or certain veggies .

Stick-out the rest of induction faithfully. It is hard to give advice so close to the beginning because you haven't really been on it long enough to establish a pattern- we wouldn't know if it was the changes that helped or not. I would stick to the book for at least 6 weeks before I try to tweak anything. Maybe hide your scale for a month if you need to. make sure you are measuring/weight everything because veggies, cheese, cream, processed meats etc add up quickly.

Other than that- know you have made the right decision by going LC. Weight-loss may just be slow for you know, but you will be healthier eating this way.

Originally Posted by Peccatore

can't weight-
Félicitations, tu es belle
This is why I love this forum. Sometimes you just need a big E-hug or a pat on the back for taking charge of your life. That absolutely delicious looking cookie, croissant, bagel,... You have to say no. No cheating. We have a precious number of years on this planet and we do not have to live 'em large (you know what I mean). Keep on plan, this is our lives and we own them. Ignore the stalls. It happens. This diet plan seems magical, but like everything in life it takes determination. I have found that the most rewarding part of it is the emotional determination and perseverance. You find yourself along the way, and you will love yourself.

Thank you- that is so kind.
You are right on- I love feeling so much more in control of myself and my eating- this confidence has definitely spilled over into other aspects of my life.

[wheels]

[QUOTE=can't weight;13844667]I definitely think your metabolism was probably affected by all the up and down. I'm sure Atkins has a section talking about if you lose a small amount on induction it can be indicative of a metabolic issue. He has a bunch of tips for that. Find that part of your book and re-read it.

Also if the lose continues to go slowly- I would post what you are eating in a new thread on the Main Low Carb board. It gets more traffic by senior LCers with lots of great advice. It is most helpful to post the quantities for what you are eating too. Although Atkins is great- it is not one size fits all, and many of us can't have everything in the same quantities. Many of us have to watch the cheese and cream, or certain veggies .

Stick-out the rest of induction faithfully. It is hard to give advice so close to the beginning because you haven't really been on it long enough to establish a pattern- we wouldn't know if it was the changes that helped or not. I would stick to the book for at least 6 weeks before I try to tweak anything. Maybe hide your scale for a month if you need to. make sure you are measuring/weight everything because veggies, cheese, cream, processed meats etc add up quickly.

Other than that- know you have made the right decision by going LC. Weight-loss may just be slow for you know, but you will be healthier eating this way.



Hey thanks for the advise, my metabolism is very slow. I will keep plugging along and re read that section..

[WHATHAPPENEDTOME?]

I hope someone can help me.

Started Induction 2 weeks ago and lost 5 lbs but have stalled. Today I bought ketosis strips and it indicates only a trace.
I am feeling much better, without headaches so I was feeling really positive about this, however after several days of no weight loss I feel like having a coke and a candy bar! LOL!

I have been journaling my food intake and am pretty sure I have stayed below 20 gr of carbs. The only thing I have been drinking is water and decaffeinated Ice tea with Sweet n low in it.

A recent diagnosis of hyperthyroidism WITH weight gain is what finally made me decide to try Adkins. I have not been able to get appt with an Endo yet. Endo's in my area are booked until November. I don't know what else to do. I am 5"1 and started at 137. I am down to 132 but need to try and get down to 120-125lb range. Any advice would be great.

[can't weight]

As I posted earlier on this page- the post induction stall is really typical in atkins- most people experience it to some degree or another.

Also I would lower your rate of weight-loss expectations dramatically. With an untreated metabolic issue like hyperthyroidism, and less than 10lbs to lose, it is not realistic to expect to lose quickly after induction. If a few days without a loss makes you want to jump of the wagon, I think you need to re-commit yourself. If you are so easily discouraged, I suggest you hide your scales for a month, and bring out the measuring tape instead. Measuring yourself is much more reliable- you will continue to get smaller even when the scale isn't moving.

This is for your health, and it may take you up to 3-6 months to lose those 10lbs. Atkins should not be chosen as a quick fix, outside of induction, it is not really that much faster than other diets. It is healthier, and easier for a lot of people, and you will never go hungry, but it is pretty much on par in terms of rate of loss.

If you don't lose anything in the next 4 weeks- post a detailed menu of what you are eating in the main low carb lobby and all the old-timers will have a look. Remember it is not considered a stall unless you have not lost for 4 weeks- and then Atkins gives tips for stall-busting- so re-read that section if you haven't lost by the end of September.

Some artificial sweeteners to stall people, so it is something to think about- depending on how much you are having. But I would seriously give it more time before I start messing around with what you are eating (if you are sticking to by the book eating). Make sure you are measuring your foods and reading any labels carefully for hidden carbs. Don't just read the g of carbs on the label, read the ingredients for any forms of sugar (and there are many) and starches.

Also keto sticks aren't 100% reliable- they only measure how many ketones are spilling over into your urine. The results are dependant on a whole myriad of factors...I would test first thing in the morning before you eat anything and see what results that gives you. Are you experiencing any of the other signs of ketosis? If not- perhaps you are victim to carb creep (accidental carb consumption).

I wish you the best of luck! Atkins goes over so much of this in the book and explains it much better than I can. It is always beneficial to re-read the book when you are discouraged or confused for motivation and tips.

[Flavia]

I strongly agree with everything Michelle said.!!!!
And personally I can't "do" sweet and low. It stalls me. So I take splenda or truvia

[wheels]

I gained 2 pounds yesterday!!! The weight loss has been slow and now this! I ate good I thoght . I did have pork rinds in a cream cheese and salsa dip , but what hert me I think is the big order of boneless spare rib from a chinese place at 10.30 at night, late dinner! Could this have screwed me up?


Also I bought Soynut better and it has only 1 net carb per serving. Can this be used durng induction?

[can't weight]

Wheels- it sound like you have not read an atkins book. Induction is the time to eat really cleanly. You have no idea what was in the sauce for the spare ribs. Chinese restaurants are notorious for their starchy sugary sauces! A quick look on daily plate shows 16 g of carbs for a small serving of chinese spare ribs.

Also while pork rinds are ok- they do have a lot of sodium which may cause you to retain water. Salsa should be used in moderation and should be home-made or sugar free. Tomatoes are not foundation veggies and should be limited on induction. So should cream cheese. I suggest you read over the induction foods that are allowed and stick to them. The treats can come in later. And chinese take-out should be left until much later- maybe not till maintenance.

Soy is a legume- you must wait until that rung to eat soy products. I don't think you are doing a true atkins induction.

Atkins induction is foundation veggies, meats, 4oz of cheese, fats, a bit of cream- that is basically it. Half of your 20 carbs should be coming form foundation veggies.

[mahoganyrn]

Hello, EV1, this is day 4 on induction by my scale went from224.4 to 221.8. not hungary but fatigued. I did atkins in 2008 with great sucess , I lost 37 lbs in months. Then I fell off and started eating carbs wide opened and gained all the weight back plus more. Funny thing is I didn't like sweets until I quit smoking in "08. Good Luck EV1. I will post my results

[lclosing]

I love all these recipies wow thanks for sharing with us!

[wheels]

[QUOTE=can't weight;13861598]Wheels- it sound like you have not read an atkins book. Induction is the time to eat really cleanly. You have no idea what was in the sauce for the spare ribs. Chinese restaurants are notorious for their starchy sugary sauces! A quick look on daily plate shows 16 g of carbs for a small serving of chinese spare ribs.

Also while pork rinds are ok- they do have a lot of sodium which may cause you to retain water. Salsa should be used in moderation and should be home-made or sugar free. Tomatoes are not foundation veggies and should be limited on induction. So should cream cheese. I suggest you read over the induction foods that are allowed and stick to them. The treats can come in later. And chinese take-out should be left until much later- maybe not till maintenance.



Ok I guess your right, I did screw up. It's very tough on induction. I will have to start over and try again. I did read the book but I thought I was getting away with a little. Thanks.....

[can't weight]

WHeels- induction is really tough for a lot of people. Hang in there, it's only two weeks!! I've been doing induction for 4 months, so I know it can be restrictive at times, but there is lots of yummy foods you can eat on-plan.

It is important to follow the plan properly. The point of induction is to get you over your carb cravings and to kind of clean the slate so you can start off fresh. You have to change your mindset- tying to 'get away with a little' can very quickly snowball into carb-fests and falling off the wagon. Introducing higher carb foods is for later as you move up the ladder, and have more control over your eating.

You need to eat cleanly, so you can tell later when you start adding foods back in, if that food is ok for you or not. If you don't start properly on induction, you don't really have a baseline. There is an order to the rungs for a reason- they are in order of least problematic to most problematic, and generally from lower carb additions to higher carb additions. It is really important to learn what your body can handle (in terms of foods, and amount of carbs) and still lose weight in order for you to be successful long term.

I would really stay away from any take out or any foods without labels. You need to know what you are eating. Read the ingredient lists as well as the carb count. Just because it is low in carbs doesn't mean it is appropriate for whichever level you are on. And I strongly suggest your track your carbs- it is so beneficial when trying to find your CCL.

Best of luck!!

[wheels]

Thanks for the pep talk. I will try to be dilligent!

[Tena]

Hi Can't Weight! My name is Tena and I am fairly new here but I have been on induction for close to weeks (this coming Monday). Anyway, I have done FABULOUS!!! I'm down 12.4 lbs which I am really happy with. I would like to ask your advice on something because you do seem to have "been there, done that".

I have had a 2+ day stall with even a slight gain (.4 lbs). I know, its very silly to worry about that but its not really that which is concerning me. I have been eating ham slices which are cut about 1/4" thick and come from my local meat market (not pre-packaged stuff from the grocery) for the past few days and I am wondering if that is affecting my loss. Technically, ham is allowed but experience might say its not the best.

What's your opinion on it? Thanks in advance for your help!