Dr. Robert Atkins 72' Extended Induction - Part 2

[It'stime]

Hi MaryL.

How's the research going on the Kruse plan? It sounded very interesting the little i did on it

[Lindaboca]

Frances, Thanks. It sounds like it really works for you. So happy. Hope your tummy feels better. Take care.

ML we will figure this out.


Linda

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by It'stime

Hi MaryL.

How's the research going on the Kruse plan? It sounded very interesting the little i did on it

Liking what I have been reading so fa too. One thing I have noticed from reading is am not eating enough protein in the morning. Before I was eating steaks and eggs for my first meal. Maybe I am doing it backwards now. I tried to eat eggs and bacon this morning and I could not. I ate about 4 or 5 bites of the scrambled eggs and 3 slices of the SF bacon. Made me feel a little sick and I was finally seeing that the protein in both are very LOW!

[marylouise]

I am going to fat secrets to see how much beef I need to make the at least 50 grams protein. Kitty did say she is eating 2 beef patties each morning.

Kitty has maintained her loss way longer than me!

[Lindaboca]

ML. You are figuring it out. Way to go. Following you. I am not a breakfast eater so I will have to build up a tolerance to so much protein in the am if I decide that plan is the way to go. Any weight loss since last week ?


Linda

[marylouise]

Beef

Hamburger patty, 4 oz – 28 grams protein
Steak, 6 oz – 42 grams
Most cuts of beef – 7 grams of protein per ounce

Chicken

Chicken breast, 3.5 oz - 30 grams protein
Chicken thigh – 10 grams (for average size)
Drumstick – 11 grams
Wing – 6 grams
Chicken meat, cooked, 4 oz – 35 grams

Fish

Most fish fillets or steaks are about 22 grams of protein for 3 ½ oz (100 grams) of cooked fish, or 6 grams per ounce
Tuna, 6 oz can - 40 grams of protein

Pork

Pork chop, average - 22 grams protein
Pork loin or tenderloin, 4 oz – 29 grams
Ham, 3 oz serving – 19 grams
Ground pork, 1 oz raw – 5 grams; 3 oz cooked – 22 grams
Bacon, 1 slice – 3 grams
Canadian-style bacon (back bacon), slice – 5 – 6 grams

Eggs and Dairy

Egg, large - 6 grams protein
Milk, 1 cup - 8 grams
Cottage cheese, ½ cup - 15 grams
Yogurt, 1 cup – usually 8-12 grams, check label
Soft cheeses (Mozzarella, Brie, Camembert) – 6 grams per oz
Medium cheeses (Cheddar, Swiss) – 7 or 8 grams per oz
Hard cheeses (Parmesan) – 10 grams per ounce


Nuts and Seeds

Peanut butter, 2 Tablespoons - 8 grams protein
Almonds, ¼ cup – 8 grams
Peanuts, ¼ cup – 9 grams
Cashews, ¼ cup – 5 grams
Pecans, ¼ cup – 2.5 grams
Sunflo ¼ cup – 6 grams---------
Pum000 seeds, ¼ cup – 8 grams---
Flds – ¼ cup – 8 grams---------
THESE WENT BLUE --SO I REWROTE IT......


Low-Carb Vegetables
This list is roughly arranged from lowest to highest carbohydrate counts, but all are non-starchy and generally low in carbohydrates. Exact carb count depends on serving size. Remember when counting carbs in vegetables that the fiber is not counted, and can be subtracted from the total. For more information about each vegetable, including carbs, calories, glycemic index, and recipes, click on the vegetables that have a link.

Sprouts (bean, alfalfa, etc.)
Greens – lettuce, spinach, chard, etc.
Hearty Greens - collards, mustard greens, kale, etc.
Radicchio and endive count as greens
Herbs - parsley, cilantro, basil, rosemary, thyme, etc.
Bok Choy
Bamboo Shoots
Celery
Radishes
Sea Vegetables (Nori, etc)
Mushrooms
Cabbage (or sauerkraut)
Jicama
Avocado
Asparagus
Okra
Cucumbers (or without added sugars)
Green Beans and Wax Beans
Fennel
Cauliflower
Broccoli
Peppers
Green Bell Peppers
Red Bell Peppers
Jalapeno Peppers
Summer Squash
Zuchinni
Brussels Sprouts
Scallions or green onions
Snow Peas/Snap Peas/Pea Pods
Tomatoes
Eggplant
Tomatillos
Artichokes
Turnips
Pu-----------PUMPKIN,,,,,HAD TO BE REWROTE
Rutabagas
Spaghetti Squash
Celery Root (Celeriac)
Carrots
Onions
Leeks

Starchy (High Carb) Vegetables!! Stay clear of these.........
The main vegetables to be avoided when reducing carbohydrates are the starchier and sweeter vegetables:

Carrots (some diets flag carrots as a problem, though they are lower in carbs than others in this group)
Beets
Peas
Winter Squashes, such as acorn and butternut
Water Chestnuts
Parsnips
Potatoes in all forms
Sweet Potatoes
Corn
Plantains


Pesticides on Popular Produce

(worst) Celery
Peaches
Strawberries
Apples
Blueberries - U.S. Grown
Nectarines
Sweet Bell Peppers
Spinach
Kale and Collard Greens
Cherries
Potatoes
Grapes – Imported from outside U.S.
Lettuce
Blueberries - Imported
Carrots
Green Beans – U.S. grown
Pears
Plums - Imported
Summer Squash
Cucumbers - Imported
Green Beans - Imported
Hot Peppers
Red Raspberries
Oranges
Grapes – U.S. grown
Cantaloupe
Cucumbers - U.S. Grown
Cauliflower
Tomatoes
Bananas
Broccoli
Winter Squash
Cranberries
Plums - U.S. Grown
Honeydew Melon
Sweet Potato
Grapefruit
Watermelon
Cantaloupe - U.S. Grown
Cabbage
Eggplant
Kiwi
Asparagus
Sweet Peas (frozen)
Mango
Pineapple
Sweet Corn (frozen)
Avocado
Onions (least)

[marylouise]

SUNFLOWER SEED
PUMPKIN SEED
FLAX SEED

Had to put these here because it kept going blue..as in a link blue...



NO I have not lost anything..YET!!!!!

BUT I AM GOING TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[marylouise]

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[marylouise]

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[marylouise]

Okay...I see that even blue it was okay to add them to the list because the blue link took you to Netrition
Made a mess of it but here is the list I have found on protein and veggie carb count.
It said the higher on the list the least carbs.

I will be doing some work on the list of what I will chose to eat. Will post a little latter that list....

I AM GOING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. IT WILL NOT STALL ME TOO MANY DAYS FROM NOW. I WILL START TO SEE MY FRIEND THE SCALE GO BACK DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN!

[soontobesexy'ntx]

Originally Posted by Lindaboca

Hi Hope, hope your journey is a good one.

Kitty, I agree with you about JUDDD. I read and researched it last night, and I don't think it is the answer for me right now after being on the plan for so long. My problem is that I have followed the plan and the LIST for a year and I am afraid to add any carbs. I know that is a big problem. I have read that adding carbs and increasing calories helps, others say reduce protein but increase fat. I can't eat a lot of cheese. It can actually make me gain weight. If I don't fill up on protein I get hungry. I need to exercise more too.

Is that your bike Soontobesexy? My DH has been riding since he was 16. He built his first Harley from parts. About 10 years ago I bought him a new Dyna Wide Glide and said happy father's day for the rest of your life. He loves working on it. Do you live in the San Fernando Valley? The restaurants you mention are near my home. Love famous Dave's.

Are you still doing the LR Kitty? On the other site is was quite the topic of discussion. So are you saying beef once a day but chicken and fish are OK? I guess you have to count calories??? Also you mention veggies. What kind? Did you use ********* to get the ratios? If you lower the protein where do the fats come from. I think that all this discussion makes me realize that I need to track my foods and not just eat as much as I want of the protein products.

Frances, what is the soup you make? Remember the soup diet. The more you ate the more you lost!!! Can you eat as much as you want of the soup on the 500 calorie days. What do you eat on the other days. It says anything but I don't know if I have to control to limit portions. I don't smoke, do drugs or drink but food is the enemy for me. I have one bite of a no no and it is binge time.

I know exercise is important. I haven't gone for awhile and my DH even paid for a trainer. I just hate it. I do love gardening but as of late my only exercise has been winding up the hose.

Sorry for all the questions. Like ML said I feel like I am a newcomer to Atkins. I have about 18 lbs to go to goal weight. Since i have never added carbs in a real sense I fear getting to my goal weight and as I have stated before I think I slip to sabotage myself so I won't reach goal weight and have to deal with it.

Linda

Linda
this is not my bike its a photo shopp with my face on it (darn I wish I looked this good)
I live in Abilene Tx we own a 2000 Road king and a 2011 TRIglide (my baby) if you would like to see pic PM me and I'll tell you how to get to my FB
RECIPE for SOUP diet
1. eat a gpod LC breakfast
2. make a big pot of soup eat soup for lunch, supper and if yo need to eat between meals the more yo eat the more you lose.
there are several soup recipes that will work good Sacred Heart Hosptial soup, cabbage soup, Oriental diet soup if you wish to continue this plan after 7 days youmay add raw veggies and full fat dressing as a dip for the mid afternoon snack
to keep from cloging up this thread PM me for soup recipes.

[marylouise]

What are the New "Dirty Dozen"

Celery
Peaches
Strawberries
Apples
Blueberries
Nectarines
Bell peppers
Spinach
Kale
Cherries
Potatoes
Grapes

We’ve all heard of the so-called "dirty dozen" those fruits and vegetables that have the highest levels of pesticide contamination. You can reduce the amount of pesticides you consume by nearly 80 percent by avoiding these twelve most contaminated fresh produce.

TheEnvironmental Working Group is the one that did the study!
It wanted to be a blue link so I hope it is okay now......I connected the first two words in hope it want be blue!

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by soontobesexy'ntx

Linda
this is not my bike its a photo shopp with my face on it (darn I wish I looked this good)

COOL I did not know this is your face. I knew you said it wasnt you but thanks for telling us it is your face

[Lindaboca]

Soontobe, wow same restaurants including Abuelos in my city. Love to see the pics and thanks for the soup recipes. The vegetable soup you eat the vegetables as well? I am familiar with the Cabbage soup diet. Are you saying do that only or in conjunction with Atkins? Sorry for all the questions but I am trying to get these last lbs off.

Linda

[Lindaboca]

ML ,Oh no, on the celery. I just bought some to add to tuna and chicken salad The others items I haven't touched in a long time.

Linda

[Lindaboca]

Going to work on my new menu. I have no veggies in the house except for salad items for DH.

Linda

[MargeGunderson]

Looking forward to your research and success on the Kruse plan, Marylouise! Wow has this been a frustrating struggle the past few weeks!!

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by Lindaboca

ML ,Oh no, on the celery. I just bought some to add to tuna and chicken salad The others items I haven't touched in a long time.

Linda

Wash them with soap and peel the skin off. Thats what I have been doing..

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by MargeGunderson

Looking forward to your research and success on the Kruse plan, Marylouise! Wow has this been a frustrating struggle the past few weeks!!

Marge it sure has. Look around. I have ran everyone off...

[marylouise]

Marge you have been losing. Dont forget that. What ever you have been doing it has been working....

[marylouise]

I hope I didnt upset you when I said dont forget that....:-(

Me all alone..

Soonie....r u here??

[Annabel Lee]

Hi ML
I am here.
Still hanging in there....sticking to my plan...never to give up....not losing but..not gaining .. so I guess it is what my body needs right now.
I say....Slow and steady wins the race.

Sorry you have been having a little bit of a rough patch. You will get back in the grove in do time!!!

[marylouise]

I bet you are on that motorcycle with your hair in the wind...I was learning how to ride our last 3 wheeler. DH built it after his Honda Gold Wing laid down on top of him!

I am working on a diet plan.

I am working on a diet plan

Why isn't Atkins 72 working???????? For Me***

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by Annabel Lee

Hi ML
I am here.
Still hanging in there....sticking to my plan...never to give up....not losing but..not gaining .. so I guess it is what my body needs right now.
I say....Slow and steady wins the race.

Sorry you have been having a little bit of a rough patch. You will get back in the grove in do time!!!

Annabel Lee!:hug s:

[marylouise]

Are you still doing the IF??

[marylouise]

Gary Taubles....

CAn you tell me more about his WOE?

[marylouise]

Do you think I should continue on and see if it will right itself?? I am up for any advise...

[kittycitygirl]

I'm here now too. Home from work.

OK, I started the LR all wrong for me! Tried to get my 50g of protein with eggs, then tuna.....blehhhhh! I couldn't eat that much so early in the morning! Did my research and found I could eat steak an not as much...it was yummier too for breakfast. Did that for a bit. Found 2 problems...obviously the price....second my teeth/gums. For some reason so much chewing steak started irritating them...not sure why...maybe time of day? Realized steak = hamburger. Started eating my 50 in that. I have one patties or loose burger. Precooked and portioned in ziplock bags in freezer to keep from going bad. Zap a bit to thaw/warm. Add cheese lately and a tad sf ketchup and sf relish. Yummy! I can o tat in the morning easily. Got 2 packs of burger on sale here today. Making burgers soon here for my BAB (big arse breakfast) you are to have no carbs to very minimum with breakfast. No snack till lunch. Then, no snack till dinner. I eat my veggies at these 2 meals and some protein....a bit of chicken, etc. if in need of losing weight, he promotes keeping carbs low. Similar to induction levels. Time of eating important too. Breakfast as soon as possible upon waking...within 30 min. Window is good. You really need to read about it before trying.

Lots of good info on his blogs. Google: Jack kruse Leptin rx faqs the first hit should be a good start.

I was doing it and doing well....then got I'll from the thyroid upping...that got me off the LR wagon....want to get back. Thinking of doing a combo. LR and egging. Burger breakfast, then eggs rest of day. A meat and egg thing.

Fats? Plenty. Coconut oil in coffee, fatty burgers, mayo, veggies stir fried in oil, butter! Cream cheese....No lack of fats!

[kittycitygirl]

ML: LR can be done with Atkins

I did that!

[kittycitygirl]

3 wheelers! We have one...dangerous fun there!