Dr. Robert Atkins 72' Extended Induction

[marylouise]

Don't eat my Wright bacon :-(

[marylouise]

Michelle, do you do a lot of excerise?
I did take note to the fact that you do not eat breakfast Is that correct?

[marylouise]

I went to Fat Secrets and added the bacon. It came back with 0 carbs.

It does say no sugar or carbs on the label. But on the front it says third ingred. is sugar. This confuses me

It also says it is smoked.

[marylouise]

Wright Bacon. I guess it must okay to eat it.

Before I found atkins site and changed all my eating. I was losing as much as 3 to 5 pounds a week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I ate pounds and pounds of red meat and the Wright bacon. Plus sausage and eggs. I was drinking the shakes and eating the bars. Plus eating a salad every day with EVOO and Bragg vinegar. Oh also I was eating the sauerkraut in a glass jar. They keep this kind in the cooler. Cant think of the name of it.

I am not giving up. I know if it worked then it has to work now. I am hoping it is just because I was eating so many carbs on the nany!!!

[BlueTopaz]

Hi everyone and newbies

****** 8/7/2011:

Total Calories: 1219
Fat: 90.3 g
Carbs: 5.2 g
Protein: 91.4 g

Fat: 67%
Protein: 32%
Carbs: 2%

B: Black coffee
L: 3 eggs, 2 slices bacon
D: 1 cup lettuce w/ranch dressing and 1/2 lb homemade cheeseburgers

ML: One of the questions I have on the 1972 Atkins is he calls it ZERO Carbs but we know there are carbs in eggs, cheese, lettuce, cucumbers and celery. All approved for Induction.

Plus, if you make his Revo Rolls - he has cottage cheese and eggs - carbs in both and he does approve these rolls for Induction. I see a bit of a contradiction. Did you or anyone else notice this?

I'm still sticking with it because I am so far doing better with this version as opposed to the other versions later in date.

[lilith79]

I know the liver did, note that I skipped the cheese last night. Nothing in the book said no organ meat, but liver does process glucose, so...

Dinner tonight was 6oz of seasame seed, onion powder and pepper crusted Ahi Tuna.
1 Cup iceberg (hubby hates the romaine) w/ 1 sliced chicken breast tender mayo dressing.
2 oz Edam cheese

[lilith79]

Originally Posted by marylouise

Michelle, do you do a lot of excerise?
I did take note to the fact that you do not eat breakfast Is that correct?

Not typically. I just don't feel hungry that soon after getting up.

No exercise yet.:blush: I do plan to start with the Wii Fit again, we got a piece of foam to mod it for me since the balance board software doesn't work on those above 330. I also have T-Tapp, provided I won't injure myself on the damned plies. I have arthritis in my knees and lower back, those plies are one surefire way to screw up my knees. I also have fibromyalgia and this humidity has been just plain miserable.

[lilith79]

Originally Posted by marylouise

I ate pounds and pounds of red meat and the Wright bacon. Plus sausage and eggs. I was drinking the shakes and eating the bars. Plus eating a salad every day with EVOO and Bragg vinegar. Oh also I was eating the sauerkraut in a glass jar. They keep this kind in the cooler. Cant think of the name of it.

What is NANY?

I would stay away from the shakes and bars. Try to eat as clean as you can. AS if you must, but stay away from the processed crap like bars and shakes. You should be able to ID your food! I'm OK with getting some protein powder and making shakes, but not buying a bottled shake. Making your own shakes allows you to know the ingredients.

[lilith79]

Nevermind, I looked up NANY. I don't like it. It was published many years after his death, and I think it's a bastardized version of the diet in order to push the bars and shakes. There isn't a lot of money to be made from book sales alone, KWIM? I also question the bars and the shakes in general because they are so heavily processed. Atkins preached in DANDR that you should be able to ID your food easily from farm/pasture to table-you can't do that with the bars and shakes because they are to heavily processed. I'd bet Dr. Atkins is rolling over in his grave over these new products.

[porcupine73]

For the first week he says 'biologically zero' carbs. We know there are some amount of carbs in some of the foods on the first week list, but I think the idea is that the total of those carbs which might be a few grams would be so small as to not really make much difference, or 'biologically zero'.

[BlueTopaz]

Originally Posted by porcupine73

For the first week he says 'biologically zero' carbs. We know there are some amount of carbs in some of the foods on the first week list, but I think the idea is that the total of those carbs which might be a few grams would be so small as to not really make much difference, or 'biologically zero'.

Yes, I did notice "biologically zero carbs" - Perhaps after you subtract the fiber - it's hardly any left. The ****** I use doesn't subtract the fiber from the total carbs.

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by porcupine73

For the first week he says 'biologically zero' carbs. We know there are some amount of carbs in some of the foods on the first week list, but I think the idea is that the total of those carbs which might be a few grams would be so small as to not really make much difference, or 'biologically zero'.

HI porcupine, You took the words right out of my mouth

WD, You didn't remember that big word" biologically zero"


porcupine you are so welcome here. If I could reach you I'd give you a big hug

Sorry I rushed off hubby needed me

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by Whitedov1208

Hi everyone and newbies

****** 8/7/2011:

Total Calories: 1219
Fat: 90.3 g
Carbs: 5.2 g
Protein: 91.4 g

Fat: 67%
Protein: 32%
Carbs: 2%

B: Black coffee
L: 3 eggs, 2 slices bacon
D: 1 cup lettuce w/ranch dressing and 1/2 lb homemade cheeseburgers

ML: One of the questions I have on the 1972 Atkins is he calls it ZERO Carbs but we know there are carbs in eggs, cheese, lettuce, cucumbers and celery. All approved for Induction.

Plus, if you make his Revo Rolls - he has cottage cheese and eggs - carbs in both and he does approve these rolls for Induction. I see a bit of a contradiction. Did you or anyone else notice this?


WD yes I did see that. I was hoping yall would not catch it. I started to say something about it earlier this week, I didn't. I wanted to wait to see if we could sweep that under the rug~~

I wrote this note to myself" Is he contradicting himself??

I'm still sticking with it because I am so far doing better with this version as opposed to the other versions later in date.

KOOL! You have been doing GREAT! How is your leg?

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by lilith79

I know the liver did, note that I skipped the cheese last night. Nothing in the book said no organ meat, but liver does process glucose, so...

Dinner tonight was 6oz of seasame seed, onion powder and pepper crusted Ahi Tuna.
1 Cup iceberg (hubby hates the romaine) w/ 1 sliced chicken breast tender mayo dressing.
2 oz Edam cheese

Michelle, I have not finished the 72' yet. But the 68 list says no liver and liver sausage. Liver makes glucose~~hummm. Okay I may never eat any organ meat again. I am diabetic. Besides I really stopped eating organ meat several years ago. I was RAISED eating chitterlings. I gag thinking about organ meat.

[BlueTopaz]

Originally Posted by marylouise;14893774
WD, You didn't remember that big word" biologically zero":up:
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Yeah, I remember reading Biologically Zero but he didn't explain that. I was wondering about it.

I'm online with my new computer. So far, so good!

I gained 1 lb between yesterday and today but the painkillers made me a little stuck in the colon :blush: even though I took a "softener".

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by lilith79

Not typically. I just don't feel hungry that soon after getting up.

No exercise yet.:blush: I do plan to start with the Wii Fit again, we got a piece of foam to mod it for me since the balance board software doesn't work on those above 330. I also have T-Tapp, provided I won't injure myself on the damned plies. I have arthritis in my knees and lower back, those plies are one surefire way to screw up my knees. I also have fibromyalgia and this humidity has been just plain miserable.

I can not do weight bearing exercise, I swim. A lot!! HOURS, weather lets me!

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by Whitedov1208

Yeah, I remember reading Biologically Zero but he didn't explain that. I was wondering about it.

I'm online with my new computer. So far, so good!

I gained 1 lb between yesterday and today but the painkillers made me a little stuck in the colon :blush: even though I took a "softener".

YOU got your new computer!!! Thats GREAT!!! So you like it? Did you get windows 7?

[BlueTopaz]

Originally Posted by lilith79

Nevermind, I looked up NANY. I don't like it. It was published many years after his death, and I think it's a bastardized version of the diet in order to push the bars and shakes. There isn't a lot of money to be made from book sales alone, KWIM? I also question the bars and the shakes in general because they are so heavily processed. Atkins preached in DANDR that you should be able to ID your food easily from farm/pasture to table-you can't do that with the bars and shakes because they are to heavily processed. I'd bet Dr. Atkins is rolling over in his grave over these new products.

Agree completely. If you mention Atkins 1972 or DANDR on the Atkins board nowadays, you are bastardized! They are strictly pushing the New Atkins for a New You. I bought the book, read it, tossed it aside. I guess if you are coming from a high carb/low fat diet, their diet will improve those people; however, if you are already doing Dr. Atkins 1968,1972,2002 - the new one will make you gain.

[BlueTopaz]

Originally Posted by marylouise

YOU got your new computer!!! Thats GREAT!!! So you like it? Did you get windows 7?

Yes, Windows 7. I haven't noticed any procedural differences from the Vista yet - not hard to navigate. Had it set up in minutes. I ordered the newest Sims 3 online.:blush: I know...pretty immature but I love the game and creativity. Besides, I can occupy myself while I cook, I am close to my DH that is a TV hog and if I"m having a bad day, I take it out on the SIMS

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by porcupine73

For the first week he says 'biologically zero' carbs. We know there are some amount of carbs in some of the foods on the first week list, but I think the idea is that the total of those carbs which might be a few grams would be so small as to not really make much difference, or 'biologically zero'.

YES! I got that last week and sent it to everyone on my email list! WD did you do the Nutritional Supplements email I sent t you? If yall didn't do it, please take the few minutes it will take so our government knows we are against it!!!! It is so very important. Send it to everyone you know!! PLEASE

porcupine thank you for the link. We all have to stand up for our beliefs. Having to go to doctor for vit. C is horrible. Plus they will be using made made in a jar formula

[BlueTopaz]

Originally Posted by marylouise

YES! I got that last week and sent it to everyone on my email list! WD did you do the Nutritional Supplements email I sent t you? If yall didn't do it, please take the few minutes it will take so our government knows we are against it!!!! It is so very important. Send it to everyone you know!! PLEASE

porcupine thank you for the link. We all have to stand up for our beliefs. Having to go to doctor for vit. C is horrible. Plus they will be using made made in a jar formula

Are you sure it's not a scare tactic? I hestitate for then I'm on someone's email list or cookies are on my computer.

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by Whitedov1208

Agree completely. If you mention Atkins 1972 or DANDR on the Atkins board nowadays, you are bastardized! They are strictly pushing the New Atkins for a New You. I bought the book, read it, tossed it aside. I guess if you are coming from a high carb/low fat diet, their diet will improve those people; however, if you are already doing Dr. Atkins 1968,1972,2002 - the new one will make you gain.

I lost 5 pounds on nany!! I had already lost 39 doing what I remembered to be Atkins. I also wish someone could tell me how dead ppl write from their grave! Makes my blood boil. I wasted time trying to lose by eating them VEGGIES. I think it is just horrible. And yes the food is probaly where they make their most money. When I found out that the ones pushing the book are in the BOOK, WOW! Almost everyone on the site has been changing the way, time, amount, etc. to get to losing again. I feel sorry for the ones that fell in head first like I did. Thanks to WD me here NOW. I'm in a great place now!

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by Whitedov1208

Are you sure it's not a scare tactic? I hestitate for then I'm on someone's email list or cookies are on my computer.

Linda I trust my son. He sent it to me. You will have to make up your on mind. Look it up. You don't have to use the link. Just look it up.

[BlueTopaz]

ML: you did great losing 39lbs just on your memory of Atkins 72!

When you get to your goal, will you add veggies slowly?

[lilith79]

See, I crave liver sometimes. I think my body needs the vitamins in it despite the multivitamin. So, if my body craves the liver, I will eat it. It's so lovely when cooked proper. Creamy in the middle...mmmm! I don't listen to all cravings, however. Like if I'm craving a doughnut..uh..no!

Liver *processes* not *produces* glucose.

I saw a negative review of the NANY book on Amazon that other people were trashing saying the poster of the review was wrong about Atkins saying to not count calories, and they cited the 72 version of the book with a very short quote. I chastised them and posted the whole section that the quote was from. You can't just pick and choose what you want from a book to make it suit you. Heck, I could edit Atkins so heavily that it would appear he said to eat sweets.

[BlueTopaz]

Speaking of multi-vitamins....I'll never forget when I heard a man that emptied Port A Potties for a living. He found thousands of Centrum and other hard vitamins in it - meaning they don't break down into the system to do a lick of work. So, now I try to buy the capsules (clear w/powder) type.

What kind and brand do you all use?

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by Whitedov1208

ML: you did great losing 39lbs just on your memory of Atkins 72!

When you get to your goal, will you add veggies slowly?

Linda, that's a really good Q.
In 2002 I lost 112 pounds. I still could not eat lot of different kind of veggies. I had to be so careful. I am never going back on insulin. NEVER!

I do have a problem there. I could eat leafy veggies. And some squash. I do have a terrible problem with eating veggies. I know I can never eat grains

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by Whitedov1208

ML: you did great losing 39lbs just on your memory of Atkins 72!

When you get to your goal, will you add veggies slowly?

Linda, thats a really good Q.
In 2002 I lost 112 pounds. I still could not eat lot of different kind of veggies. I had to be so careful. I am never going back on insulin. NEVER!

I do have a problem there. I could eat leafy veggies. And some squash. I do have a terrible problem with eating veggies. I know I can never eat grains

[BlueTopaz]

I never got to say how my GYN appointment went on Friday. It went well and she recommends I do nothing right now in the form of HRT.

She did give me options for controlling my erratic TOM's but I nixed it and said I don't want to take any prescription meds,BC pills, IUD if I don't have to. I even stopped my Lipitor a month ago and depending on Atkins to lower my cholesteral. She said I am taking very good care of myself and doesn't have a problem with Atkins. She offered me a water pill for my peri-meno water problems but said that water pills make your body dependent on them eventually. I said No, Atkins has a direutic effect anyway and she agreed.

[marylouise]

Originally Posted by Whitedov1208

ML: you did great losing 39lbs just on your memory of Atkins 72!

When you get to your goal, will you add veggies slowly?

I'm sorry, my computer froze up