1972 Atkin's plan by the book

[smilingirisheyes]

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Originally Posted by BellaHMB

Thanks Cheryl (and everyone)! Im groovin in the 150's

Bella

[COLOR="Blue"]Wow Bella...Congrats!! [/COLOR]

[BellaHMB]

Hey Cheryl,

Do you eat flax seed muffins? I made a batch and am watching myself
like a science experiment to see if I am ok with them!!

Anyone else?

Bella

[vessel of prayer]

not me but let me know Bella. Congrats on the loss btw!! That is an acomplishment for sure. It is a long, hard journey.

[BellaHMB]

Thanks!
I also tried a machiato that my son made me- it has espresso with a kiss of foam. Seemed pretty low carb to me and I loved it!

Bella

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

Hey Cheryl,

Do you eat flax seed muffins? I made a batch and am watching myself
like a science experiment to see if I am ok with them!!

Anyone else?

Bella

No I've never tried Flax seed much less the muffins....... I see a lot of posts about them so they must be good. I'll bet it helps the bathroom routine

[bubu]

Hi all,
just read thru some of the posts, thought I'd give my experience in bathroom issues.

Whenever I don't take the following, I have problems.

Every day I start out with Omegas, 1 capsule and in bad cases some extra virgin olive oil from the spoon or lemon water on empty stomach. I also take Vitamine C and a combo of Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc Supplement. At night its always a lite/fit lc yoghurt with a rounded tsp. of ground flax. I only ever have problems when I don't take those, and I know that the Calcuim/Mag/Zinc is my biggest contributor in staying regular.

I was once hooked on laxatives, after the birth of my first son, and don't ever want to go there again, it messed me up for years.

Hope it helps someone.
Laters
Bu

[BellaHMB]

Good morning 72 ladies!

I am so excited about this woe. Ive been on it now since 1-16 and it has been SO successful for me, that Im ready to write a book! Oh wait, someone already did that! I have a group in 2 days who havent seen me since March 2 when I weighed 184 and Im now 158. Thats 24 lbs! I know they will be making positive comments and Im ready! This is what everyone has to look forward to if you stick to your plan.

One of the most important things is dont sabotage yourself! Sue on another thread said "dont take one bite off plan" and I agree. Otherwise its an up and down struggle and very frustrating!

Ok, off my soapbox now. I do think its soon time for me to give back to the community and try to help others as people like Cheryl have helped me.
That's all part of it.

Have a great day!
Bella

[ixtapacheryl]

Bella: I am sooooo proud of you and can't wait to hear what your friends have to say when they see you in two days.

One thing I noticed after I had lost the weight and the compliments calmed down - I had an empty feeling. Maybe Dr. Phil would have an answer to to that. Now that I am much thinner - I feel very fat - not like how I felt when I first reached my goal. Maybe some of you gals would have a clue as to these feelings.

[BellaHMB]

Cheryl,

I think those feelings have to do with body image. I find myself critical of myself even after losing weight although Im not feeling self loathing anymore.
Maybe you have to reprogram your thinking? I know that I say "how do I feel when I think I am fat?" (depressed, angry, unattractive...) And then "how do I feel when I no longer have those thoughts?" (calm, relieved, "ok"). You might try that, and then you do that every time you start thinking the self defeating thoughts.

Big hugs!
Bella

[bubu]

I am certainly not getting much work done, all these stimulating topics here.


I think the empty feeling we have is the empty feeling we had all along. Its what's inside thats missing, not the outside. If only I could........fill in blanks usually doesn't change much. It's not doing for ourselves that makes us happy, its doing for others, and then the higher power comes to play. As soon as we get off that high of accomplishment, we have to find inner peace and I think accept who we are, not what we were.

Losing weight, is all about being healthy and being able to function without that burden, but once that is achieved, something has to come into focus, "why are we here"?

That to me is kind of like reirement. People without any idea of what to do with their freedom, waste away in boredom. Those who have a purpose, are usually happiest.

Issues that made us heavy, uncontrolled, social...they are all still there, the scary part is to find new focus.

I hope to get there
Bu

[ixtapacheryl]

Dear Bella and Bu: Thank you so much for your responses. A lot of meat in those two posts and I will definitely try to delve a little deeper emotionally. I do love doing things for others and always thought of myself last. It's almost like "ok I lost the weight - reached goal - now what?" The challenge is done - finished! Then a few pounds creep back in ---- "oh good another challenge". It's a rollercoaster. I get the high when I've lost ---- then boredom sets in. I think I need a hobby

[smilingirisheyes]

Originally Posted by bubu

I am certainly not getting much work done, all these stimulating topics here.


I think the empty feeling we have is the empty feeling we had all along. Its what's inside thats missing, not the outside. If only I could........fill in blanks usually doesn't change much. It's not doing for ourselves that makes us happy, its doing for others, and then the higher power comes to play. As soon as we get off that high of accomplishment, we have to find inner peace and I think accept who we are, not what we were.

Losing weight, is all about being healthy and being able to function without that burden, but once that is achieved, something has to come into focus, "why are we here"?

That to me is kind of like reirement. People without any idea of what to do with their freedom, waste away in boredom. Those who have a purpose, are usually happiest.

Issues that made us heavy, uncontrolled, social...they are all still there, the scary part is to find new focus.

I hope to get there
Bu

Very, deep, thought-provoking response, Bu...thanks so much

[Peony]

I've heard alot of discussion about people with gastric bypass. They say that once they lose all the weight, they pick up another addiction. Yesterday on Oprah, there was a young lady who lost 400 lbs and she said she had turned to shoplifting. They were discussing how some turn to alchohol, sex, shopping, etc. Their reasoning is that when you are overweight and hiding your eating, there is a bit of excitement over the hiding of your addiction--closet eating. And when you are losing the weight, there is excitement over the losing, but once you have lost the weight and like Cheryl said,the compliments stop coming, they seek that same excitment in other ways. In a magazine a lady said she had spent thousands of dollars shopping on HSN because it had become a secret addiction. To her it filled that emptyness that the had crept in as the weight was leaving.

Just being thin doesn't solve all our problems. We must also work on loving ourselves in a new way. The woman who lost 400 lbs said she still has body issues and doesn't date much because she still thinks of herself as fat eventhough she can see how great she looks in clothing. I would think it would take years to finally accept the new you.

When a person decided to have a sex change, there is at least a year of therapy to get them to decide if they are ready for all the changes that will occur in their life. Then they take hormones to prepare them for the changes. It is a long process and when it finally happens, they are well prepared. But when someone has a gastric bypass or loses weight within a short time, they haven't had any therapy to help them adjust. It's as if someone has just tossed them into the wilds. Isn't it good that we have this support system to help us adjust?
Peony

[BellaHMB]

Good morning,

I agree, this support is invaluable. And what a great topic!

I think the hardest thing for me in the past has been that I can lose the weight I want to lose since trying Atkins first in 1976- lost 70 lbs and kept it off for 11 years even through the birth of my son. (gained only 28 lbs and then took it off 3 months later on this woe). But then my focus waned, and my marriage was a little rocky, and then I yoyoed for several years before really gaining it back in the 1990's. In 1996 I again did lowcarb and took it off by 1998, kept it off until 2001 when a series of family deaths and the revealing of some very large secrets surrounding my parents (I discovered I had been adopted by my grandparents, my "sister" was my mom) sent me spiraling into a very confusing time and weight gain again. Now Im past that,
happily remarried and bound and determined to stay focused and keep this off!

For me it's a matter of emotional eating. When Im unhappy, I eat. Nothing big, Im not a binge eater but my weight gain is slow and steady....

Thanks for listening,
Bella

[ixtapacheryl]

Dear Peony and Bella: Thanks so much for sharing and posting. You can't realize how much your words mean to me and definitely worth pondering my situation.

I didn't lose weight for the compliments - but it was nice to hear them, even though I didn't see what they were seeing. Believe me I haven't turned to shoplifting and I'm definitely not a sex-aholic I just had to tell you that! I should figure out what my demons are though.

Again gals - thank you!

[jsj0305]

Hey everyone. I was reading through this thread....and I trying the '72 version as of right now.

I have been following DANDR to the T and having veryyyy slow losses. I am VERY excited to see what this will do for me.

I was wondering... How long have you been on the '72 version and how much have you lost? I know it varies from person to person but I'd love to know

Also, what do you typically eat from Day to Day??

I usually have:
Breakfast: 4 eggs and 2 pieces of low sodium bacon
Lunch: I alternate egg salad w/ 4 eggs and 3 T Mayo with 2 cans of tuna w/ 3T mayo. Should I drop the mayo??
Dinner: Mostly chicken w/ broccoli (which I need to cut out) or chicken salad w/ lettuce, cucumbers, tomatoes, mushrooms and dressing..which I guess would need to go too. Just the chicken and lettuce?

I know I can do this. And advise would be VERY much apprecieted

Thanks in Advanced!!!

[BellaHMB]

Ive been on it since 1-16 and have lost 52 lbs.

Bella

[jsj0305]

WOW!! That is incredible!!!!!

Thank you so much for answering....I can't WAIT for my book to get here next week!!

Now can you stay in phase 1 for longer than one week and then add the carbs back in later or is it one week that's it type thing?? I'm only curious b/c I would like to start now before the book arrives

Thanks so much! You have done an AWESOME Job! I bet you feel like a million buck!!!

[BellaHMB]

Hi Stephanie

Ive been on 20 carbs or under a day since the beginning, but I did add in blueberries, almonds and flax muffins several times per week about 2 weeks ago. I wanted to be closer to goal before climbing the ladder, which has worked for me but some dont recommend it.

Bella

[jsj0305]

Okay thanks!! I really need that book to get here!! LOL. I have 3 versions DANDR but none of the original

Thanks for the advice!!!

[BellaHMB]

Originally Posted by jsj0305

Okay thanks!! I really need that book to get here!! LOL. I have 3 versions DANDR but none of the original
Thanks for the advice!!!

Yes, and you can follow the first post on this thread for induction rules and start now!! I think the 72 plan works the best

Bella

[jsj0305]

I'm doin it today

Now I have noticed a few people compair this to Kimkins, but I thought Kimkins is low cal as well as low carb. o is it the same with the exception of the calories??

Thanks again! You are the best

[BellaHMB]

Hi

Kimkins is also lowfat. I have tried incorporating some of the Kimkins principles into my own plan, and have somewhat in that I keep my calories under a 1000 per day and I also watch my fat intake. But some of the Kimkins folks are eating 300-500 calories per day, literally half of what I eat and I cant imagine it! At least for me

Bella

[smilingirisheyes]

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

Hi

Kimkins is also lowfat. I have tried incorporating some of the Kimkins principles into my own plan, and have somewhat in that I keep my calories under a 1000 per day and I also watch my fat intake. But some of the Kimkins folks are eating 300-500 calories per day, literally half of what I eat and I cant imagine it! At least for me

Bella

Bella, you are the Queen of weight loss around here!! Congrats again!

You know, I would be starving on less than 1000 calories a day, plus my body is very stealth on figuring out what I'm doing and adjusting into starvation mode, so I need to keep it guessing.

[jsj0305]

Good idea to switch it up. I like that idea. I was also wondering...do you guys have to watch your ratios or do you just look at carbs and that's it??

I don't even remember reading in DANDR that you do..but everyone says 65%fat 30%protein and 5% carbs...so I have no idea..LOL

[lcoldtimer]

Hi All.I have been lcing since 1998.It has worked for the most part.But after so much time I got sloppy with my carb counting and you know what happens.I am so glad I found this group. It has helped me take off 10lbs in 3 weeks.A big thank you to Cheryl and her post on what she ate to loose all that.I pretty much stick to her Drs.plan.Thanks to everyone for sharing.I think we can really help each other

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by lcoldtimer

Hi All.I have been lcing since 1998.It has worked for the most part.But after so much time I got sloppy with my carb counting and you know what happens.I am so glad I found this group. It has helped me take off 10lbs in 3 weeks.A big thank you to Cheryl and her post on what she ate to loose all that.I pretty much stick to her Drs.plan.Thanks to everyone for sharing.I think we can really help each other

I am soooo glad it has worked for you. Did you remember to take a good multi-vit/mineral capsule? Now that you've got those 10# off - what maintenance plan are you going on? That is where I got screwed up. I thought I could indulge in more carbs and before I knew it - I was off and running with cravings starting all over again. Maintenance for me has been difficult. Now I have 10# to lose .....

[lcoldtimer]

Hi Again,I would still like to loose another 10lbs at least but my real goal is to weigh120.I got there 2 summers ago but it was very hard to maintain.I think for that to work I will follow the advice and only add back in very slowly.I think it is all in your mindset.We allow ourselves a few carbs and it becomes a free for all.so I will just stay away.Also I think Summer is a great motivation to take off some weight.

[BellaHMB]

Good morning,

Went out for dinner last night and had shrimp scampi. I think it was ok except for the garlic/butter sauce which I shouldve asked for on the side. Oh well.... Does anyone know of a carb counter on line?

Bella

[jsj0305]

where did you go??