1972 Atkin's plan by the book - Page 12

silkhair1 · 03-03-2007, 06:14 PM

I had a good day too. Still thinking about sweets, but that is all in my head and hopefully one day I can figure out how to handle that.

6in2007 · 03-04-2007, 09:23 AM

I survived the breakfast buffet unscathed!

ixtapacheryl · 03-04-2007, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silkhair1

My MIL lives in Spring Hill. What a small world.

Cheryl, I know asparagus is not on induction, but I did not want them to go to waste so I ate them. filled me up. I think the rev. rolls are on induction. I have not gotten my book yet, but I think I read that on this website. I got the 1973 edition and hope that one is the same.

I agree - asparagus is sooo expensive. I hope they tasted good!

I am sure the '73 book is very similar to '72 - I can't believe they would have changed it that much. Maybe it's just a reprint ... here's hoping.

Evan · 03-05-2007, 02:10 AM

Was in regular Atkins induction, losing slowly. Now I will implement the '72 plan to the 'T'.... Thanks to all for the tips in this thread!

magnamater · 03-05-2007, 04:29 AM

Cheryl or whoever can comment:

I've been following '72 to the T for 4 days and no whoosh.

I must say I've never NOT been LC, I am older (turning 59) and have lost almost 90 lbs, meaning I was very overweight, and getting closer to goal (meaning I don't need many calories. . .for all of the above reasons)

Should I stick to the '72 longer or go to Kimmers/Kimkins? My reading says the 3 day experiment means no cheese, low fat, and the Kimkins is approximently the same as the '72, but with more emphasis on low fat.

Am I missing something?

I know I can't expect a whoosh! but a little nudge wouldn't hurt.

I also haven't bought ketostix. . .relying on following the plan. . .but I haven't experienced the loss of hunger. . .

Pardon my "being in a hurry!"

I don't mind giving up the LC treats if I get results! But I want to know it is working!

ixtapacheryl · 03-05-2007, 08:23 AM

[quote=magnamater;8267264]Cheryl or whoever can comment:

Can you post what you are eating? It sounds like maybe you are having some "hidden carbs" somewhere. How much more weight do you want to lose?

We'll figure it out ..... just give me some idea on what you are consuming...

vessel of prayer · 03-05-2007, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silkhair1

I had a good day too. Still thinking about sweets, but that is all in my head and hopefully one day I can figure out how to handle that.

I think about them too, but cravings arent as bad as they use to be. I survived yesterday. Son ordered Hungry Howies pizza and I didnt eat any of it. I had fish, and salad with blue cheese. And I was satisfied ... thats amazing to me.

magnamater · 03-05-2007, 01:14 PM

Cheryl, I'm on the same page with you. . .I already entered my stuff in Fitday, and I was up up up on calories, okay on carbs. . .too many RR's, and they are 90 cals a piece. . .and I ate 6 (using 2 for a sandwich)--550 cals. I wasn't aware of. . .and I think with only 19 lbs to go I can't eat but about 1200 cal/day. . .and continue to loose, no matter how low the carbs.

The carbs were fine!

I'm going to see what happens when I lower the cals.

Is that what you recommend???

CosmicMuffin · 03-05-2007, 02:49 PM

Ok I am starting this and doing it I hope by plan. During the first week can you eat Spinach? I am looking at the salad greens and it isn't listed so I will assume that means NO spinach.

BellaHMB · 03-05-2007, 08:22 PM

Spinach is ok per my understanding if it is in a salad according to Kimkins.
I have been eating it in salad with no problems...but if youre not sure, wait until week 2 or 3.

BellaHMB · 03-05-2007, 08:24 PM

Hi Magna,

Im not sure about premaintenance, its a very tricky time as you want to keep losing but veerrry slowly! How many pounds do you have to lose? I think you might have to tweak this some to find out what really works. Dr. A says 1 pound MAX per week loss during the phase you are in!

Bella

Edwards20 · 03-06-2007, 03:53 AM

What is the actual name of the Atkins '72 book ?

magnamater · 03-06-2007, 05:44 AM

Bella, not to worry, losing more than a lb. a week, for me. . .I want to loose 19, and some of them are relosing the lbs I put back on. . .

I will definitely keep on. . .keeping the carbs and the calories real.

I had been keeping lc, but baking and cooking with a lot of things--carbquik, erith., xylitol, WPI, nut flours, nuts, coconut, and endulging DAILY in those kinds of treats.

Plus I had added an oatmeal/flax/protein powder cereal in the a.m. for my heart. . .nice thought, but it was not working for me. . .

6in2007 · 03-06-2007, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edwards20

What is the actual name of the Atkins '72 book ?

Dr Atkins Diet Revolution [Hardcover] by Atkins, Robert

BellaHMB · 03-06-2007, 09:22 AM

Magna that's interesting. Im 22 pounds from goal one (160) with my permanent goal of 150. I was thinking I would start premaintenance at 160-
but that's with just 10 to lose. Does that seem right? Cheryl are you around?
(she is a wise expert here!). I dont plan on slowing down my loss until Im closer to goal, but also want to be smart about it.

Bella

ixtapacheryl · 03-06-2007, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnamater

Cheryl, I'm on the same page with you. . .I already entered my stuff in Fitday, and I was up up up on calories, okay on carbs. . .too many RR's, and they are 90 cals a piece. . .and I ate 6 (using 2 for a sandwich)--550 cals. I wasn't aware of. . .and I think with only 19 lbs to go I can't eat but about 1200 cal/day. . .and continue to loose, no matter how low the carbs.

The carbs were fine!

I'm going to see what happens when I lower the cals.

Is that what you recommend???

You could lower your calories and see if that helps. I never had the RR - just ate whole foods (shopped the outside of the grocery store)....

ixtapacheryl · 03-06-2007, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

Magna that's interesting. Im 22 pounds from goal one (160) with my permanent goal of 150. I was thinking I would start premaintenance at 160-
but that's with just 10 to lose. Does that seem right? Cheryl are you around?
(she is a wise expert here!). I dont plan on slowing down my loss until Im closer to goal, but also want to be smart about it.

Bella

You could try pre-maintenance, but if you start seeing the scale going up - you might want to cut back. Maintenance really took it's toll on me (not immediately - but a month into it.) I started eating fruit, more veggies, etc. and the weight loss stopped and I started gaining.

I'd try to climb the carb ladder, but watch carefully. The doc told me I could add 5 grams back in and see if I was still in ketosis and losing. If I was then I could add maybe a few more grams back in. When the stick stopped changing colors - I was suppose to cut back.

ixtapacheryl · 03-06-2007, 10:26 AM

Bella: How much have you lost since you started? I am so proud that you are still here posting and encouraging everyone else.

BellaHMB · 03-06-2007, 10:49 AM

Ive lost 28 pounds in 7 weeks

Im at about 12 total carbs per day. I added cottage cheese (1/4 cup) this week and most of my carbs are from veggies. When did you start adding in carbs? I could try adding in another 5?

Bella

marmoura · 03-06-2007, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

Ive lost 28 pounds in 7 weeks

Im at about 12 total carbs per day. I added cottage cheese (1/4 cup) this week and most of my carbs are from veggies. When did you start adding in carbs? I could try adding in another 5?

Bella

Bella,

I've been following your progress and I must say that I am very impressed. I have switched to A72 from DANDR.

Since the end of January, I've only lost about 12 lbs and tomorrow will be 6 weeks since I started DANDR

On this woe I was eating all sorts of meats/chicken/seafood of course, eggs, veggies, cream cheese or mozzarella sticks, sour cream, salad with appropriate dressings, bacon, avocado, sugar free tomoto sauces...etc

When I switched to A72 just recently, I cut out the veggies (except my salad which consist of lettuce that is sometimes sprinkled with feta cheese), cut out the avocado and the tomato sauce.

For the past couple of days since I began, I've still been eating cheese (mozzarella sticks) or the kind with the wax around it like Cheryl has said, bacon, eggs, all sorts of meats/chicken/seafood ..i still have my salads with appropriate dressings, butter/margarine/oil, and sf jello. oh - i also have the occasional sf breath strip (the listerine paper kind to control my bad breath!!)

I am actually thinking of making the cheese chips - made with the singles cheese, but not too sure if that's A72 friendly or not. I want to stay on A72 Induction until I reach goal. I was 187...now at 174..and would eventually like to be 135.

I see that in 7 weeks you've lost 28!!! Can you tell me the things that you ate when you started doing A72? I found it easy to give up the veggies because I can still eat my meals with salad, but the only thing that keeps me going are those cheesestring mozzarella sticks (which I'm presuming are not allowed...along with cream cheese...)

Any input? I'm very proud of your progress...and would like some guidance.

Trying to keep on track

Edwards20 · 03-06-2007, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6in2007

Dr Atkins Diet Revolution [Hardcover] by Atkins, Robert

Thank you.

BellaHMB · 03-06-2007, 02:05 PM

Hi Mary,

Thanks so much for the kudos and Im happy to help!

I think the most basic advice I could give you is to use fitday to track your food intake. I keep my calories under 1000 and they usually are more like
850. I also exercise 5 times a week.

The way I have reduced my calories is to use fats such as mayo and cheese sparingly. Before when I have done Atkins 72 I didnt watch that at all and lost 18 pounds in 2 months, so it does seem to make a difference. I eat cucumber slices, a stick of mozarella (just one!), a sugar free jello, 1/2 can of tuna if Im hungry in between meals which I often am!

I followed the rules of induction exactly for 2 weeks which meant I ate eggs, protein (more chicken and fish than red meat for less calories), 2 cups of salad per day, kalamata olives and feta for flavor, Ken's casaer dressing (low carb). I also weigh my food and keep my protein to 3-4 ounces per meal.

No faux foods ie bars, shakes. No bargaining with sweet treats!

Avocado is ok after induction but I only use 1/3 at a time. I also eat cooked mushrooms cooked or spinach every other day (one or the other).

I do use a splash of sugar free syrup in my coffee every day, and also have
a cup of coffee with 1 splenda packet and a "little" cream (a tsp) in the a.m.

Why dont you post a couple of typical days of menus and I can look at them and give you feedback? Include how many carbs you are eating!

You can do it!

Bella

magnamater · 03-06-2007, 03:32 PM

Bella, you are now one of my inspirations!!!!

I'm definitely cutting back to less than 1000. . .and let's see!!

Hunger is an issue. . .still for me too, but the busier I stay the better.

Would you add in a Fiber Choice (the sugar free kind--a tablet that you can carry in your purse)? Those are supposed to help hunger.

As is 2 T. of Z-Trim in a drink (Crystal Light?) and ice cubes in a blender.

Those I"ve read of on these forums.

Don't know if they fit in with your eating plan or Atkins '72. . .What do you think?

I'm searching for answers myself!

vessel of prayer · 03-06-2007, 03:45 PM

HI ALL

today was weigh in. I started atkins the 24th of Feb. I was 146.6 . Today I weighed in at 141.2 total of 5.4 pounds in 11 days and I am a slow loser. So I am happy.

ixtapacheryl · 03-06-2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

Ive lost 28 pounds in 7 weeks

Im at about 12 total carbs per day. I added cottage cheese (1/4 cup) this week and most of my carbs are from veggies. When did you start adding in carbs? I could try adding in another 5?

Bella

I really didn't add carbs back in until I was pretty close to goal - probably in the middle of August and I started in March. You can try adding in another 5# but it might just slow your loss down. If that doesn't matter than go for it. If you want to lose fast - than I'd continue with what you are doing now. You are doing great!

ixtapacheryl · 03-06-2007, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptureready1953

HI ALL

today was weigh in. I started atkins the 24th of Feb. I was 146.6 . Today I weighed in at 141.2 total of 5.4 pounds in 11 days and I am a slow loser. So I am happy.

Great news - you are doing so well! Before you know it you'll be at goal. KUTGW my friend!

03-06-2007, 02:05 PM	#352
BellaHMB MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Coast Posts: 2,806 Gallery: BellaHMB Stats: 210/134/150 goal met 5.27.07 WOE: Maintenance Atkins Start Date: 1-16-07	Hi Mary, Thanks so much for the kudos and Im happy to help! I think the most basic advice I could give you is to use fitday to track your food intake. I keep my calories under 1000 and they usually are more like 850. I also exercise 5 times a week. The way I have reduced my calories is to use fats such as mayo and cheese sparingly. Before when I have done Atkins 72 I didnt watch that at all and lost 18 pounds in 2 months, so it does seem to make a difference. I eat cucumber slices, a stick of mozarella (just one!), a sugar free jello, 1/2 can of tuna if Im hungry in between meals which I often am! I followed the rules of induction exactly for 2 weeks which meant I ate eggs, protein (more chicken and fish than red meat for less calories), 2 cups of salad per day, kalamata olives and feta for flavor, Ken's casaer dressing (low carb). I also weigh my food and keep my protein to 3-4 ounces per meal. No faux foods ie bars, shakes. No bargaining with sweet treats! Avocado is ok after induction but I only use 1/3 at a time. I also eat cooked mushrooms cooked or spinach every other day (one or the other). I do use a splash of sugar free syrup in my coffee every day, and also have a cup of coffee with 1 splenda packet and a "little" cream (a tsp) in the a.m. Why dont you post a couple of typical days of menus and I can look at them and give you feedback? Include how many carbs you are eating! You can do it! Bella __________________ Goal Met 5.26.2007! Bella's Life By the Sea Journal http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/sh...d.php?t=498528 My Before and After photos: http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slidesho...y=-d378t0&Ux=0 Last edited by BellaHMB : 03-06-2007 at 02:07 PM.

03-03-2007, 06:14 PM	#331
silkhair1 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Peotone, IL. Posts: 56 Gallery: silkhair1 WOE: Atkins	I had a good day too. Still thinking about sweets, but that is all in my head and hopefully one day I can figure out how to handle that.

03-04-2007, 09:23 AM	#332
6in2007 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 892 Gallery: 6in2007 Stats: 207/157/120	I survived the breakfast buffet unscathed!

03-05-2007, 02:10 AM	#334
Evan Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1 Gallery: Evan	Was in regular Atkins induction, losing slowly. Now I will implement the '72 plan to the 'T'.... Thanks to all for the tips in this thread!

03-05-2007, 04:29 AM	#335
magnamater MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Houston, Texas and Galveston Bay Posts: 2,534 Gallery: magnamater WOE: Maintenence Start Date: 1999, but Dec. 2002 as WOL	Cheryl or whoever can comment: I've been following '72 to the T for 4 days and no whoosh. I must say I've never NOT been LC, I am older (turning 59) and have lost almost 90 lbs, meaning I was very overweight, and getting closer to goal (meaning I don't need many calories. . .for all of the above reasons) Should I stick to the '72 longer or go to Kimmers/Kimkins? My reading says the 3 day experiment means no cheese, low fat, and the Kimkins is approximently the same as the '72, but with more emphasis on low fat. Am I missing something? I know I can't expect a whoosh! but a little nudge wouldn't hurt. I also haven't bought ketostix. . .relying on following the plan. . .but I haven't experienced the loss of hunger. . . Pardon my "being in a hurry!" I don't mind giving up the LC treats if I get results! But I want to know it is working!

03-05-2007, 08:23 AM	#336
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,883 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/150/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	[quote=magnamater;8267264]Cheryl or whoever can comment: Can you post what you are eating? It sounds like maybe you are having some "hidden carbs" somewhere. How much more weight do you want to lose? We'll figure it out ..... just give me some idea on what you are consuming...

03-05-2007, 01:14 PM	#338
magnamater MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Houston, Texas and Galveston Bay Posts: 2,534 Gallery: magnamater WOE: Maintenence Start Date: 1999, but Dec. 2002 as WOL	Cheryl, I'm on the same page with you. . .I already entered my stuff in Fitday, and I was up up up on calories, okay on carbs. . .too many RR's, and they are 90 cals a piece. . .and I ate 6 (using 2 for a sandwich)--550 cals. I wasn't aware of. . .and I think with only 19 lbs to go I can't eat but about 1200 cal/day. . .and continue to loose, no matter how low the carbs. The carbs were fine! I'm going to see what happens when I lower the cals. Is that what you recommend???

03-05-2007, 02:49 PM	#339
CosmicMuffin Lovely, Luscious, Luxurious Loungie Brat Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: KENTUCKY, Heart is in Essex, England (No white heels, blue eyeshadow, or dancing around my bag) Posts: 5,679 Gallery: CosmicMuffin WOE: Atkins '72	Ok I am starting this and doing it I hope by plan. During the first week can you eat Spinach? I am looking at the salad greens and it isn't listed so I will assume that means NO spinach.

03-05-2007, 08:22 PM	#340
BellaHMB MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Coast Posts: 2,806 Gallery: BellaHMB Stats: 210/134/150 goal met 5.27.07 WOE: Maintenance Atkins Start Date: 1-16-07	Spinach is ok per my understanding if it is in a salad according to Kimkins. I have been eating it in salad with no problems...but if youre not sure, wait until week 2 or 3.

03-05-2007, 08:24 PM	#341
BellaHMB MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Coast Posts: 2,806 Gallery: BellaHMB Stats: 210/134/150 goal met 5.27.07 WOE: Maintenance Atkins Start Date: 1-16-07	Hi Magna, Im not sure about premaintenance, its a very tricky time as you want to keep losing but veerrry slowly! How many pounds do you have to lose? I think you might have to tweak this some to find out what really works. Dr. A says 1 pound MAX per week loss during the phase you are in! Bella

03-06-2007, 03:53 AM	#342
Edwards20 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northwest Georgia Posts: 6,590 Gallery: Edwards20 Stats: 264/216/214 (mini goal) WOE: Atkins Start Date: Jan 2, 2007	What is the actual name of the Atkins '72 book ?

03-06-2007, 05:44 AM	#343
magnamater MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Houston, Texas and Galveston Bay Posts: 2,534 Gallery: magnamater WOE: Maintenence Start Date: 1999, but Dec. 2002 as WOL	Bella, not to worry, losing more than a lb. a week, for me. . .I want to loose 19, and some of them are relosing the lbs I put back on. . . I will definitely keep on. . .keeping the carbs and the calories real. I had been keeping lc, but baking and cooking with a lot of things--carbquik, erith., xylitol, WPI, nut flours, nuts, coconut, and endulging DAILY in those kinds of treats. Plus I had added an oatmeal/flax/protein powder cereal in the a.m. for my heart. . .nice thought, but it was not working for me. . .

03-06-2007, 09:22 AM	#345
BellaHMB MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Coast Posts: 2,806 Gallery: BellaHMB Stats: 210/134/150 goal met 5.27.07 WOE: Maintenance Atkins Start Date: 1-16-07	Magna that's interesting. Im 22 pounds from goal one (160) with my permanent goal of 150. I was thinking I would start premaintenance at 160- but that's with just 10 to lose. Does that seem right? Cheryl are you around? (she is a wise expert here!). I dont plan on slowing down my loss until Im closer to goal, but also want to be smart about it. Bella

03-06-2007, 10:26 AM	#348
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,883 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/150/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	Bella: How much have you lost since you started? I am so proud that you are still here posting and encouraging everyone else.

03-06-2007, 10:49 AM	#349
BellaHMB MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Coast Posts: 2,806 Gallery: BellaHMB Stats: 210/134/150 goal met 5.27.07 WOE: Maintenance Atkins Start Date: 1-16-07	Ive lost 28 pounds in 7 weeks Im at about 12 total carbs per day. I added cottage cheese (1/4 cup) this week and most of my carbs are from veggies. When did you start adding in carbs? I could try adding in another 5? Bella

03-06-2007, 03:32 PM	#353
magnamater MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Houston, Texas and Galveston Bay Posts: 2,534 Gallery: magnamater WOE: Maintenence Start Date: 1999, but Dec. 2002 as WOL	Bella, you are now one of my inspirations!!!! I'm definitely cutting back to less than 1000. . .and let's see!! Hunger is an issue. . .still for me too, but the busier I stay the better. Would you add in a Fiber Choice (the sugar free kind--a tablet that you can carry in your purse)? Those are supposed to help hunger. As is 2 T. of Z-Trim in a drink (Crystal Light?) and ice cubes in a blender. Those I"ve read of on these forums. Don't know if they fit in with your eating plan or Atkins '72. . .What do you think? I'm searching for answers myself!

03-06-2007, 03:45 PM	#354
vessel of prayer Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NW FL Panhandle but wish I was where there is SNOW Posts: 9,197 Gallery: vessel of prayer Stats: 186/148.6/143 -will get to 130 5'3" WOE: LFL Start Date: 09/10/2005	HI ALL today was weigh in. I started atkins the 24th of Feb. I was 146.6 . Today I weighed in at 141.2 total of 5.4 pounds in 11 days and I am a slow loser. So I am happy.