Help!

HateEating! · 03-09-2009, 09:07 AM

i dont know what is wrong with me
I have anorexic and bulimia tendencies.
I starve myself some days
And then i eat a load some days and force myself to throw it up can u help me ?

Thanks
Gemma

HateEating! · 03-10-2009, 04:40 AM

anyone available

suzanneyea · 03-10-2009, 06:08 AM

I am a recovered bulimic. I can only tell you what worked for me. I cannot eat any carbs. If I even eat vegetables, it triggers a binge for me, so I eat only meat and drink only water.

Mogget · 03-10-2009, 11:54 PM

Hey Gemma,

You may be interested in a great site called Normaleating.com - everyone on there is struggling with or has overcome eating disorders through a great system devised by the site owner. I used a similar method to get past my own disordered eating and know I will NEVER go back to it. You will find buttloads of really good support on there for getting past disordered eating and I really hope you check it out.

HateEating! · 03-11-2009, 07:26 AM

Heyya thank you mogget. This site is sooo helpful, thanks for the site.

Mogget · 03-11-2009, 05:19 PM

No probs

HateEating! · 03-12-2009, 09:15 AM

Yep but i still need someone to talk to. Is anyone available. Has anyone gone through a similar thing.

Denise85 · 03-12-2009, 11:04 PM

Please seek professional help. I had bulimia with anorexic tendencies from age 8-30. I nearly died twice, and the thing that saved me was treatment. The first to times didn't work because I wasn't 100% committed to doing everything it took. Last year I got to the point where I knew I was killing myself. I found the most fantastic psychiatrist, therapist and dietitian, and they saved my life. ED is long gone, and I have a healthy relationship with food. I no longer starve myself, binge/purse, exercise to extremes, etc.....It's not really abut food. It's getting to the root of your problems, and anyone who specializes in ED's will tell you that you cannot diet. Restricting any food groups or dieting is a big no no. We take things to extremes, and ED comes out. No diet or way of eating will take care of it. It's much deeper then not having self control or having cravings. I am now in college to be a registered dietitian. The information I have learned is priceless and my goal is to work with ED patients once I finish up my masters.

HateEating! · 03-13-2009, 03:49 AM

could you like share some of that information then

Denise85 · 03-13-2009, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HateEating!

could you like share some of that information then

I really can't. It's based on me, and my problems. That's why getting professional help is so important. The tools and skills I've learned are directly related to what issues I was having. It would be different for you.

Nanny2Kara · 03-13-2009, 05:16 PM

Have you talked to your parents about your issues with food? They need to know to be able to support you.

Please take the advice offered and get some help. I lost a good friend to eating disorders.

Mogget · 03-14-2009, 04:33 AM

Hey Gemma,

I battled disordered eatting most of my life, and while I "got over" anorexia on my own, it was only to move on to bulimia, I "got over" bulimia on my own only to move onto self injury, I "got over" self injury but moved into compulsive eating over eating. Wihout resolving the underlying issue each compulsive bad habit was simply replaced with another - sure I moved through a list and rarely relapsed but my life and mind were still disordered.

Last year I finally came to the conclusion that although my whole life I had only myself to rely on, and that I had done "everything" on my own it was probably time to acknowledge that my "on my own" results were not the best and getting better results might be worth sharing the credit. I now am free of compulsive eating too... and have developed no new/old/other compulsions. I eat like normal healthy people do, and gradually my weight is normalising too.

My first step wasa small one, some spiritual counselling. It helped a lot. After that I used NLP techniques (I am highly trained/practised in NLP) on myself, and had colleages work with me. Lastly I rounded it ou with Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin system - which is essentially Intuitive Eating supported by lots of NLP techniques delivered through hypnotic inductions. I will emphasise that his program is not intended as a cure for disordered eating - it also only a really watered down approximation of the results you would get with a GOOD skilled NLPer one on one (the difference is like a bootleg recording of a garage gig as opposed to beging present at woodstock!), but the techniques if listened to and practised repeatedly can start to erode the self loathing that underpins ED. It is, is any case comptable with Lowcarb as it doesn't promote or condemn any particular foods and could be used in conjunction to help work on the underlying issues.

If eating low carb helps get the ED to a point where you are more functional I would urge you, like the others have, to use that extra functionality to seek professional help to resolve the cause of the ED. I am a firm beleiver that unless you get your mind sorted out even finding a WOE which helps is a bandaid approach.

It helps to break the cycle and tha is great but I personally feel that it is still disabling to have to live thinking even one carb will set me off again... that means the ED is still there, and still running things. You deserve to be completely free of it.

HateEating! · 03-15-2009, 08:50 AM

By parents?
They wouldnt care
Oh my god mogget it sounded serious
glad your better

Mogget · 03-15-2009, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HateEating!

By parents?
They wouldnt care
Oh my god mogget it sounded serious
glad your better

Thanks Gemma,

I was very messed up for a long long time especially in regards to eating/self image/self loathing.... but so happy now to be able to actually enjoy life properly as it is meant to be enjoyed.

Worth the effort it took, and I did at least learn a lot of things about myself, about life and about what matters and what works. And lots about all the things that don't work in the long run!

I feel that so long as you get some learning no exeperience has to be a total loss.

Take care of yourself. Talk if you need to.

HateEating! · 03-16-2009, 08:08 AM

Thanks
But i am absolutely fine
I will control it
Like i control my life

Denise85 · 03-22-2009, 09:16 AM

You cannot simply control it. It has nothing to do with will power. I too told myself for a good 10 years that I could get it under control. I was wrong. People with ED's must get professional help, or it will continue for a life time. Even those who do get help will struggle from time to time, and some never fully recover. We are masters of telling ourselves it'll be different this time. That this was the last binge/purge. The voices are great at letting us believe these things.

HateEating! · 03-23-2009, 08:42 AM

Hey denise it says you are size 4, help i wanna be size 4.

And i am not too bothered i know i am in control of it, it is not a problem anymore it doesnt affect me the way it use to

chipmunkis · 03-27-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HateEating!

Thanks
But i am absolutely fine
I will control it
Like i control my life

If you were "absolutely fine" you wouldn't have an eating disorder. If you were "absolutely fine" you also wouldn't have posted this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by HateEating!

i dont know what is wrong with me
I have anorexic and bulimia tendencies.
I starve myself some days
And then i eat a load some days and force myself to throw it up can u help me ?

Thanks
Gemma

Quote:

Originally Posted by HateEating!

And i am not too bothered i know i am in control of it, it is not a problem anymore it doesnt affect me the way it use to

NO ONE with an eating disorder who is actively involved in whatever their ED looks like is "in control"... the ED is in control.

HateEating! · 03-31-2009, 03:26 AM

Yeah well i was just wondering what it was
But it isnt that bad. surely?
Look i can control it, thats what im doing

chipmunkis · 04-01-2009, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HateEating!

Yeah well i was just wondering what it was
But it isnt that bad. surely?
Look i can control it, thats what im doing

You're fooling yourself (most ED's do....) if you think you are in control by starving yourself some days and forcing yourself to throw up other days. My DD has an ED...as does a very close friend... and they both said the same thing. YOU will NEVER be the one in control if you are doing those things.... the eating disorder will be controlling you.

I don't expect you to see it that way... I know my DD struggles still with convincing herself that she is "controlling" it.... but she knows that only by NOT doing those things is she in control.

I'm sure I am coming off as pretty harsh, but I don't believe in dancing around the reality of an ED....

HateEating! · 04-02-2009, 02:40 AM

i may sound stupid.. buts whats a DD.
Oh c'mon ur making it out to be really bad

chipmunkis · 04-02-2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HateEating!

i may sound stupid.. buts whats a DD.
Oh c'mon ur making it out to be really bad

DD is an abbreviation for Dear Daughter

I am making it out to be really bad because it IS really bad. I have a friend who struggled with an eating disorder for YEARS who can now only eat soft foods, nothing too hot or two cold, because of the PERMANENT damage caused to her esophagus from vomiting.
A girl who was in a support group for teens with eating disorders with my daughter DIED.

YES it IS REALLY bad.

I am not trying to be horrid to you.. but I am a mom, my DD struggles with an ED...and I am very worried about you.

LowCarbCatholic · 04-02-2009, 09:01 PM

As someone who moderates an eating disorders forum and who has been in and out of treatment... it may be best not to respond to these posts because it looks like this person is just looking for attention and feeding off it it, which is why they keep downplaying the seriousness.

Just my opinion, though.

Mogget · 04-02-2009, 10:59 PM

that's kinda where I felt things were heading after my last post, hence going quiet

HateEating! · 04-03-2009, 07:34 AM

Why dont any of you understand what i mean... i just want someone to understand.
And i AM NOT looking for attention so keep your opinions to yourself thanks

chipmunkis · 04-03-2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HateEating!

Why dont any of you understand what i mean... i just want someone to understand.
And i AM NOT looking for attention so keep your opinions to yourself thanks

I understand it from the perspective of a mom who has watched her child struggle with it. If what you want is for someone to tell you that what you're doing isn't so bad, i can't do that... I'd be lying.

HateEating! · 05-15-2009, 07:58 AM

Why cant you?.. god im annoyed
And sorry i took so long to reply

Jen415 · 05-15-2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HateEating!

Why dont any of you understand what i mean... i just want someone to understand.
And i AM NOT looking for attention so keep your opinions to yourself thanks

Honey, if you don't want attention, don't post on public boards.....

You've asked, it's been answered. Take what works for you and leave the rest.

BTW, I have an eating disorder, so I DO understand. Doesn't matter if you eat nothing or everything, it is a disease. And you need professional help for a disease.

Denise85 · 05-17-2009, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chipmunkis

DD is an abbreviation for Dear Daughter

I am making it out to be really bad because it IS really bad. I have a friend who struggled with an eating disorder for YEARS who can now only eat soft foods, nothing too hot or two cold, because of the PERMANENT damage caused to her esophagus from vomiting.
A girl who was in a support group for teens with eating disorders with my daughter DIED.

YES it IS REALLY bad.

I am not trying to be horrid to you.. but I am a mom, my DD struggles with an ED...and I am very worried about you.

I agree with you 100% Chippy. My ED nearly killed me twice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HateEating!

Hey denise it says you are size 4, help i wanna be size 4.

And i am not too bothered i know i am in control of it, it is not a problem anymore it doesnt affect me the way it use to

ED will always be there, and will come back whenever he wants. If you haven't gone into proper treatment then I'm sorry but you don't have control. ED controls you until you get proper treatment. It has nothing to do about being strong. I used to tell myself that I had control and it wasn't that bad. I was only fooling myself. My eyes are now wide open, I accepted my ED and the treatment.

Yes I'm a size 4, and I saw a dietitian specializing in ED's, a psychiatrist, and a therapist. Basically, I went into treatment for my ED, and worked my butt off to beat it. I still see my dietitian every few weeks and do a daily meal plan where I log everything I eat and bring it to her, I still see my psychiatrist every few months, and my therapist every other week.

HateEating! · 05-19-2009, 08:10 AM

Sounds harsh!

03-09-2009, 09:07 AM	#1
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	Help! i dont know what is wrong with me I have anorexic and bulimia tendencies. I starve myself some days And then i eat a load some days and force myself to throw it up can u help me ? Thanks Gemma

03-14-2009, 04:33 AM	#12
Mogget Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,352 Gallery: Mogget Stats: Sizes: 26+/14/10 WOE: ICMYT/Exercise Start Date: 11/11/08 - ICMYT	Hey Gemma, I battled disordered eatting most of my life, and while I "got over" anorexia on my own, it was only to move on to bulimia, I "got over" bulimia on my own only to move onto self injury, I "got over" self injury but moved into compulsive eating over eating. Wihout resolving the underlying issue each compulsive bad habit was simply replaced with another - sure I moved through a list and rarely relapsed but my life and mind were still disordered. Last year I finally came to the conclusion that although my whole life I had only myself to rely on, and that I had done "everything" on my own it was probably time to acknowledge that my "on my own" results were not the best and getting better results might be worth sharing the credit. I now am free of compulsive eating too... and have developed no new/old/other compulsions. I eat like normal healthy people do, and gradually my weight is normalising too. My first step wasa small one, some spiritual counselling. It helped a lot. After that I used NLP techniques (I am highly trained/practised in NLP) on myself, and had colleages work with me. Lastly I rounded it ou with Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin system - which is essentially Intuitive Eating supported by lots of NLP techniques delivered through hypnotic inductions. I will emphasise that his program is not intended as a cure for disordered eating - it also only a really watered down approximation of the results you would get with a GOOD skilled NLPer one on one (the difference is like a bootleg recording of a garage gig as opposed to beging present at woodstock!), but the techniques if listened to and practised repeatedly can start to erode the self loathing that underpins ED. It is, is any case comptable with Lowcarb as it doesn't promote or condemn any particular foods and could be used in conjunction to help work on the underlying issues. If eating low carb helps get the ED to a point where you are more functional I would urge you, like the others have, to use that extra functionality to seek professional help to resolve the cause of the ED. I am a firm beleiver that unless you get your mind sorted out even finding a WOE which helps is a bandaid approach. It helps to break the cycle and tha is great but I personally feel that it is still disabling to have to live thinking even one carb will set me off again... that means the ED is still there, and still running things. You deserve to be completely free of it. __________________ Allies Exercising Around the World Challenge Goal: 10 'miles' per day. November Walking Challenge - 350 Minutes

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03-10-2009, 04:40 AM	#2
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	anyone available

03-10-2009, 06:08 AM	#3
suzanneyea Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 3,247 Blog Entries: 2 Gallery: suzanneyea Stats: 110 WOE: zero carb	I am a recovered bulimic. I can only tell you what worked for me. I cannot eat any carbs. If I even eat vegetables, it triggers a binge for me, so I eat only meat and drink only water.

03-10-2009, 11:54 PM	#4
Mogget Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,352 Gallery: Mogget Stats: Sizes: 26+/14/10 WOE: ICMYT/Exercise Start Date: 11/11/08 - ICMYT	Hey Gemma, You may be interested in a great site called Normaleating.com - everyone on there is struggling with or has overcome eating disorders through a great system devised by the site owner. I used a similar method to get past my own disordered eating and know I will NEVER go back to it. You will find buttloads of really good support on there for getting past disordered eating and I really hope you check it out.

03-11-2009, 07:26 AM	#5
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	Heyya thank you mogget. This site is sooo helpful, thanks for the site.

03-11-2009, 05:19 PM	#6
Mogget Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,352 Gallery: Mogget Stats: Sizes: 26+/14/10 WOE: ICMYT/Exercise Start Date: 11/11/08 - ICMYT	No probs

03-12-2009, 09:15 AM	#7
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	Yep but i still need someone to talk to. Is anyone available. Has anyone gone through a similar thing.

03-12-2009, 11:04 PM	#8
Denise85 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 23,787 Blog Entries: 11 Gallery: Denise85 Stats: 261/119.4 size 0/2 (below goal)/120-123,5'5" WOE: Dietician's plan	Please seek professional help. I had bulimia with anorexic tendencies from age 8-30. I nearly died twice, and the thing that saved me was treatment. The first to times didn't work because I wasn't 100% committed to doing everything it took. Last year I got to the point where I knew I was killing myself. I found the most fantastic psychiatrist, therapist and dietitian, and they saved my life. ED is long gone, and I have a healthy relationship with food. I no longer starve myself, binge/purse, exercise to extremes, etc.....It's not really abut food. It's getting to the root of your problems, and anyone who specializes in ED's will tell you that you cannot diet. Restricting any food groups or dieting is a big no no. We take things to extremes, and ED comes out. No diet or way of eating will take care of it. It's much deeper then not having self control or having cravings. I am now in college to be a registered dietitian. The information I have learned is priceless and my goal is to work with ED patients once I finish up my masters.

03-13-2009, 03:49 AM	#9
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	could you like share some of that information then

03-13-2009, 05:16 PM	#11
Nanny2Kara Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 73 Gallery: Nanny2Kara Stats: 162/142/130ish WOE: low carb Start Date: June 16,2007	Have you talked to your parents about your issues with food? They need to know to be able to support you. Please take the advice offered and get some help. I lost a good friend to eating disorders.

03-15-2009, 08:50 AM	#13
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	By parents? They wouldnt care Oh my god mogget it sounded serious glad your better

03-16-2009, 08:08 AM	#15
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	Thanks But i am absolutely fine I will control it Like i control my life

03-22-2009, 09:16 AM	#16
Denise85 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 23,787 Blog Entries: 11 Gallery: Denise85 Stats: 261/119.4 size 0/2 (below goal)/120-123,5'5" WOE: Dietician's plan	You cannot simply control it. It has nothing to do with will power. I too told myself for a good 10 years that I could get it under control. I was wrong. People with ED's must get professional help, or it will continue for a life time. Even those who do get help will struggle from time to time, and some never fully recover. We are masters of telling ourselves it'll be different this time. That this was the last binge/purge. The voices are great at letting us believe these things.

03-23-2009, 08:42 AM	#17
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	Hey denise it says you are size 4, help i wanna be size 4. And i am not too bothered i know i am in control of it, it is not a problem anymore it doesnt affect me the way it use to

03-31-2009, 03:26 AM	#19
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	Yeah well i was just wondering what it was But it isnt that bad. surely? Look i can control it, thats what im doing

04-02-2009, 02:40 AM	#21
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	i may sound stupid.. buts whats a DD. Oh c'mon ur making it out to be really bad

04-02-2009, 09:01 PM	#23
LowCarbCatholic Junior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 4 Gallery: LowCarbCatholic Stats: XXX/XXX/130 WOE: My Own Version of Low-Carb Start Date: April 2nd, 2009	As someone who moderates an eating disorders forum and who has been in and out of treatment... it may be best not to respond to these posts because it looks like this person is just looking for attention and feeding off it it, which is why they keep downplaying the seriousness. Just my opinion, though.

04-02-2009, 10:59 PM	#24
Mogget Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,352 Gallery: Mogget Stats: Sizes: 26+/14/10 WOE: ICMYT/Exercise Start Date: 11/11/08 - ICMYT	that's kinda where I felt things were heading after my last post, hence going quiet

04-03-2009, 07:34 AM	#25
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	Why dont any of you understand what i mean... i just want someone to understand. And i AM NOT looking for attention so keep your opinions to yourself thanks

05-15-2009, 07:58 AM	#27
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	Why cant you?.. god im annoyed And sorry i took so long to reply

05-19-2009, 08:10 AM	#30
HateEating! Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 53 Gallery: HateEating! Stats: 180 WOE: erm.. none. Starving	Sounds harsh!