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Old 05-08-2008, 12:27 PM   #31
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I live alone and have not had a drink in 6 months or cigarette (come July) in 5 years. Crazy as it sounds, giving these things up was most difficult when it came to just filling time....and that's what my addictions have always been about, filling up time because of loneliness, boredom, etc etc. I didnt know what to do with myself when I quit smoking ( I was a two pack a day 'er, three on a weekend with drinks! ) so I started a paint by numbers kit! I know, it sounds dumb, but it gave me something to do, I could place it in front of the TV or wherever I wanted to be. Later, I began going to writing groups and other group activities that got me out of the house and socializing. I didn't realize what a hermit I'd become when drinking, smoking etc. Start something! Anything to fill the time, this will lead to other things you may not have ever thought of ! I try to do something once per year now that really challenges me or scares me, I went skydiving first! Good luck! And I agree, get yourself to a meeting if only to get out of the house and be around others who understand your dilema! Its free and a real help!
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another bad thing is that my husband is an alcoholic as well. On his days off he will start in the morning and drink a few tall ones and eat and then go to sleep. Then he wakes up and does it all over again. I hate seeing him like that. I told him today that I have to quit and if I do I cant live with someone who does do it. I can see when he retires this is what I have to look forward to. Maybe I should get rid of him now.
O bless you sister! One of the things that I've learned in AA is that I am completely powerless over OTHERS. You've already made such a huge first step in admitting that you have a problem. I personally believe that the twelve steps of AA have solved *almost* every other problem in my life in addition to my drinking problem. Heck, its even helped my THINKING problem. i also believe that no matter WHAT no matter who you live with or what you are exposed to you will also be able to become happy joyous and free through lasting sobriety. I really do. I can't tell you how much I hope for you to take the next step. You CAN have the life that you truly deserve.

ETA: As far as what I do with my time now: I spend time with my family - I have managed to repair my previously damaged family relationships. I spend time with the wealth of friends I have built through my program. I go to the movies, I play poker with the boys, I make jewelry, I read books... there truly seem to not be enough hours in the day now. One of the main changes that sobriety has brought to my life is that I am NOT LONELY ANY MORE. For this alcoholic drinking was an isolating process. it prevented me from forming any REAL relationships with people. I could never achieve true intimacy because who and what I was and felt was clouded by my addiction. I could never achieve true comittment because drinking was more important to me than anything else. I now could fill 24 hours a day 7 days a week just enjoying and developing the REAL human relationships I have been blessed with.

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Old 05-08-2008, 12:55 PM   #34
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O bless you sister! One of the things that I've learned in AA is that I am completely powerless over OTHERS. You've already made such a huge first step in admitting that you have a problem. I personally believe that the twelve steps of AA have solved *almost* every other problem in my life in addition to my drinking problem. Heck, its even helped my THINKING problem. i also believe that no matter WHAT no matter who you live with or what you are exposed to you will also be able to become happy joyous and free through lasting sobriety. I really do. I can't tell you how much I hope for you to take the next step. You CAN have the life that you truly deserve.

ETA: As far as what I do with my time now: I spend time with my family - I have managed to repair my previously damaged family relationships. I spend time with the wealth of friends I have built through my program. I go to the movies, I play poker with the boys, I make jewelry, I read books... there truly seem to not be enough hours in the day now. One of the main changes that sobriety has brought to my life is that I am NOT LONELY ANY MORE. For this alcoholic drinking was an isolating process. it prevented me from forming any REAL relationships with people. I could never achieve true intimacy because who and what I was and felt was clouded by my addiction. I could never achieve true comittment because drinking was more important to me than anything else. I now could fill 24 hours a day 7 days a week just enjoying and developing the REAL human relationships I have been blessed with.

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Wow, I really feel for you Babsy. I'm not a drinker because I grew up around alcoholics..my grandfather and my mother. I honestly can't stand the smell of liquor. I'm married to a very social man who drinks, although not excessively, so I will have drinks occasionally. I'm holding a martini in my avatar pic at a Christmas party. I think that was maybe my 5th drink of the year. I guess seeing firsthand what it can do to a person and to a family was enough of a deterrent for me. I can't really offer any advice. My childhood was so dysfunctional that the drinking was really the least of our problems. There was no AA or any recovery program in my family. My grandfather stopped because he found God. My mother stopped because alcohol is expensive and she could barely support us on her salary, let alone support a drinking habit. So, she had to make a choice and luckily she chose us.

I've given this a lot of thought over the years and one thing I know is that alcohol, drugs, sex, food...they're all a way to escape things/feelings that we don't want to deal with. When I gained most of my weight, I was eating to distract myself from how lonely I was. My mom drank because she was absolutely overwhelmed raising 5 small children by herself. She was depressed, suicidal, angry...all of those things. The alcohol temporarily made those feelings go away. You've got to figure out what is triggering this for you and you'll be a step closer to conquering it for good. They will allow you to attend AA meetings even if you don't admit that you're an alcoholic. Just do something. Don't sit at home pondering how non-drinkers do it. Ponder why you're doing it and get some help.
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Newbie here but I can so so relate to the original poster. Every day I crave beer and sometimes I give in. On the days I don't drink beer I eat M&Ms. My diet is healthy otherwise and I'm not overweight according to my BMI ( though I would like to lose about fifteen pounds) but I know that I'm addicted to those two items.

By the way I'm indifferent to other forms of alcohol.
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My FIL kicked the habit years ago, I was told its a difficult thing to do.

I have no cravings for the stuff (physical). I have not had a drink in probably five years. If the stuff I liked was not all sugary, I might have virgin ones, just cause I like the taste, not the alcohol.

I do not understand addiction from a first hand view, I wish you much luck though. I am sure whatever you are going thru is very difficult.

If I understand your question, you are asking what non drinkers do instead of drink. I guess I do not think of it in that way, it never occurs to me to drink in the first place, so its not like I am choosing something to purposely keep me from drinking. I never ever think of alcohol. How do I live without it? Honestly, its off my radar. Its not enjoyable, adds nothing to my life and its mediocre tasting at best to me.
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:14 PM   #39
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Hey Babsy

When I started my journey 8 years ago, I was a heavy drinker and smoker. The two went hand in hand......
When I finally decided that I needed to lose weight, I knew after reading DANDR that I also had to quit drinking. Our whole social circle was wrapped around it. We went camping/boating with people every weekend every summer, we had a party for every possible holiday......BIL used to tell us we'd celebrate flag day if we could get a group together! We drank every weekend and I drank every night. I drank about a 6 pack of beer a night.....I would even sneak 12 packs in so that DH didn't see that I was buying it every night. sad I know but it was my life for several years. Let me get back to the beginning of my journey.....After my 2 week induction period, I would drink once a week on Saturday night. Well, I would drink vodka/diet drinks but still, it stalled me and I felt crummy. I finally just decided that I couldn't drink like that anymore but I did continue to smoke.....DH and I would sit on our deck, drink iced coffee and smoke and play cards.......then only drinking about once a month and finally getting closer to goal.
Almost 3 years ago, I finally decided (after a very drunk cruise to the Mexican Riviera and a cheap carton of cigarettes) I decided to quit smoking. I quit smoking every year for 6 years my friend. The last cigarette I put out before I went to bed with a good buzz was the last one I had.

You ask what a person does when they get home.....well sweets, I drove home from work every night slightly depressed and almost a little angry that I could not sit on my deck, open a cold beer and light a smoke........
This lasted almost 2 months until I finally snapped out of it, drank herb tea and DH and I started taking nice walks together. I can't even imagine that life now. It feels good to feel good you know?
Your journey is going to be a hard one. Since DH is an alcoholic you are going to be challenged and may have to make some difficult ultimatums. Your health is so important. More important than the temporary fix of the drinks.
Find some good support with a sponsor. You can even rally a friend or co-worker to exercise with you at night.
Busy hands are happy hands and while you may not be able to imagine not drinking in the evenings, remember, I could never imagine giving up my beloved beer and cigarettes......and yes....they were my first love and while I hate to admit this, I know deep in my heart that my children suffered because of my decision to continue to not only smoke but drink too.

On the flip side here, there is a direct correlation between the alcoholic and sugar addiction. Your savior will be L-Glutamine 500mg. 3x a day......
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Wow. Powerfull stuff. Thanks for sharing everyone.

Before starting Atkins on 3/24 ~ me and DH would pull a bottle of vino from the cellar each and every night. Usually started with 1 Tecate each, then on to the wine. And sometimes a 2nd bottle would get opened. Now restricted to Friday/Saturday nights only. But you got me thinking, maybe that's too much, too. I don't know, I sure love Pinot Noir!

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Old 05-08-2008, 06:52 PM   #42
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I understand what you're saying about your husband having no interest in stopping drinking. Many of us live with spouses who do not share our desire for change. My husband has no interest in eating LC and he continues to eat all kinds of ice cream and other carb-laden items. Does living in proximity to that tempt me way more than if I wasn't living with someone who eats that stuff? Heck yeah! You just have to want to heal your body more than you want to drink or eat crap. Maybe you should read this article.....
Diabetes Complications: Nerve Pain, Amputation, Heart Disease, Stroke
If it doesn't absolutely scare the crap out of you and make you want to stop what you're doing RIGHT NOW, then you need to seriously CHECK yourself! Your husband may have the luxury of continuing to drink without dramatically increasing his health risk factors, but you do not. Your body has already said it's ready to throw in the towel when you were diagnosed with diabetes, but by managing your disease you can heal your body and live a long and healthy life IF you aggressively manage your blood sugar levels. Only you can decide what is more important to you. A few gin & tonics a day or your feet. Seriously. This board is a wonderful place for love & support, but I think you need a kick in your a$$ for being diabetic & drinking. Either you are uneducated about your disease and need to really, really learn what it's about and what it can do to your body if you don't manage it, or you're depressed (which if you drink regularly and you are depressed it just makes it worse) and need help dealing with that, or you don't value yourself and your health in which case you have self-worth issues and need help dealing with that. Regardless you need to seroiusly examine yourself and your life and figure out why your are sabotaging your health by continuing to do what you're doing. Please, please, please stop what you're doing to your body & give yourself the opportunity to live a longer, healthier life! There are so many people & organizations that will help you help yourself if you just make it happen. YOU CAN DO IT!!
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Hey Babsy

When I started my journey 8 years ago, I was a heavy drinker and smoker. The two went hand in hand......
When I finally decided that I needed to lose weight, I knew after reading DANDR that I also had to quit drinking. Our whole social circle was wrapped around it. We went camping/boating with people every weekend every summer, we had a party for every possible holiday......BIL used to tell us we'd celebrate flag day if we could get a group together! We drank every weekend and I drank every night. I drank about a 6 pack of beer a night.....I would even sneak 12 packs in so that DH didn't see that I was buying it every night. sad I know but it was my life for several years. Let me get back to the beginning of my journey.....After my 2 week induction period, I would drink once a week on Saturday night. Well, I would drink vodka/diet drinks but still, it stalled me and I felt crummy. I finally just decided that I couldn't drink like that anymore but I did continue to smoke.....DH and I would sit on our deck, drink iced coffee and smoke and play cards.......then only drinking about once a month and finally getting closer to goal.
Almost 3 years ago, I finally decided (after a very drunk cruise to the Mexican Riviera and a cheap carton of cigarettes) I decided to quit smoking. I quit smoking every year for 6 years my friend. The last cigarette I put out before I went to bed with a good buzz was the last one I had.

You ask what a person does when they get home.....well sweets, I drove home from work every night slightly depressed and almost a little angry that I could not sit on my deck, open a cold beer and light a smoke........
This lasted almost 2 months until I finally snapped out of it, drank herb tea and DH and I started taking nice walks together. I can't even imagine that life now. It feels good to feel good you know?
Your journey is going to be a hard one. Since DH is an alcoholic you are going to be challenged and may have to make some difficult ultimatums. Your health is so important. More important than the temporary fix of the drinks.
Find some good support with a sponsor. You can even rally a friend or co-worker to exercise with you at night.
Busy hands are happy hands and while you may not be able to imagine not drinking in the evenings, remember, I could never imagine giving up my beloved beer and cigarettes......and yes....they were my first love and while I hate to admit this, I know deep in my heart that my children suffered because of my decision to continue to not only smoke but drink too.

On the flip side here, there is a direct correlation between the alcoholic and sugar addiction. Your savior will be L-Glutamine 500mg. 3x a day......

For the first time, Fawn, I am gonna have to tell you thanks
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Babsy take your own life and future in your hands. I absolutely hate hate hate diabetes too. My mother has it, my brother died from complications from a stroke related to diabetes, my best friend who was a diabetic from childhood died when she was 3 months pregnant-she wanted that baby so badly and took a nap after lunch one day when she was 3 months along and never woke up. I hope you wake up Babsy and take a long hard look at things I really do.
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Babsy take your own life and future in your hands. I absolutely hate hate hate diabetes too. My mother has it, my brother died from complications from a stroke related to diabetes, my best friend who was a diabetic from childhood died when she was 3 months pregnant-she wanted that baby so badly and took a nap after lunch one day when she was 3 months along and never woke up. I hope you wake up Babsy and take a long hard look at things I really do.
why did she not wake up?
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why did she not wake up?
She had an insulin reaction in her sleep and died. She was not supposed to have children because she was a severe diabetic and she did have problems stabilizing her blood sugar the whole time but we never ever thought this would happen. She was 30 and it was one of the most heartbreaking things I ever went through. It was a girl-we found out at the funeral-she wanted a girl.
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She had an insulin reaction in her sleep and died. She was not supposed to have children because she was a severe diabetic and she did have problems stabilizing her blood sugar the whole time but we never ever thought this would happen. She was 30 and it was one of the most heartbreaking things I ever went through. It was a girl-we found out at the funeral-she wanted a girl.

a few times after drinking and forgetting to test before bed, I have woken up in the morning with my blood sugar being 80 or 90. That tells me it was very dangerously low when I went to bed cause I always have higher blood sugar in the morning. I am done. I dont want to die in my sleep. Im scared. The longest I have ever been without alcohol is when I was pregnant and I didnt drink for seven months. There first 6 to eight weeks I didnt know I was pregnant. I remember after the baby was born I couldnt wait to drink again.
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a few times after drinking and forgetting to test before bed, I have woken up in the morning with my blood sugar being 80 or 90. That tells me it was very dangerously low when I went to bed cause I always have higher blood sugar in the morning. I am done. I dont want to die in my sleep. Im scared. The longest I have ever been without alcohol is when I was pregnant and I didnt drink for seven months. There first 6 to eight weeks I didnt know I was pregnant. I remember after the baby was born I couldnt wait to drink again.
Search down deep and get help Babsy-its out there and others who have been through it can help you. You are already on the right track by lc'ing. My mother is 83 and has not aged well from complications due to having diabetes for so long-she is nearly blind from diabetic retinopathy, has huge swelling in her legs due to kidney problems from the diabetes and of course heart problems from this as well. Also we have noticed some mild paranoia beginning-I think some senility issues are beginning also. I really wish you the best.
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a few times after drinking and forgetting to test before bed, I have woken up in the morning with my blood sugar being 80 or 90. That tells me it was very dangerously low when I went to bed cause I always have higher blood sugar in the morning. I am done. I dont want to die in my sleep. Im scared. The longest I have ever been without alcohol is when I was pregnant and I didnt drink for seven months. There first 6 to eight weeks I didnt know I was pregnant. I remember after the baby was born I couldnt wait to drink again.
Please get help for your addiction issues. This board is great for its intended purpose, and we're all glad your here, but you need more than just what this board can offer. For your health and happiness, please get the help you need to stop drinking. We you and want you to be healthy & alive to tell the story of how you overcame! You obviously want to change or you wouldn't be here so while your motivation is up GO! If your health care plan has a mental health component to it, call them and get an appointment for a dependency consult! Look up AA in the phone book! Do something - take action! You've made an easy first step by saying here that you want to change. That's brave and now you have to be even braver - you have to make it happen. You can make it happen! Just do it!
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She had an insulin reaction in her sleep and died. She was not supposed to have children because she was a severe diabetic and she did have problems stabilizing her blood sugar the whole time but we never ever thought this would happen. She was 30 and it was one of the most heartbreaking things I ever went through. It was a girl-we found out at the funeral-she wanted a girl.
what is a severe diabetic? If you are type one, you cant get any more severe than that. I dont understand how she had a reaction unless she got it in a vein like I did this morning and went to sleep right after or something
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How do you live everyday without having a drink? What do you do in the evenings that dont cause you to have that urge? How do you even just exist without it? Seriously.
I cook. I exercise. Take the dogs for more walks. I blog. I just look for other ways to spend my time instead of wasting it on drinking.

Plus I restrict it to the weekends and then look forward to an expensive bottle of wine rather than a bunch of cheaper ones indulging every single night the way I used to do. It was HARD at first. But getting easier each day. And finding that WOW - I can live without copping a buzz every night!
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To some degree, I think if there is some kind of gluten or yeast intolerance, people tend to crave those items. It's a weird anomaly that Dr Atkins addressed in several of his books.

If you have those intolerances to yeast and/or gluten, chances are, you are also allergic to alcohol. If you are allergic to it, you crave it all the more. Frankly, I think people who crave alcohol just found their intolerance/allergy. I think it is a very chemical thing.
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