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Old 08-02-2007, 09:52 AM   #1
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Taming of the Food! -August-

Whether it is emotional eating, bingeing, or food addiction, we are here to tame our food issues. We seek strength and support from each as we find our way path to freedom.
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:10 AM   #2
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I'm here!

I've been doing some LCF reading. . .and found some info that may or may not be helpful about UPPING calories to lose weight.

The theory, that dieting has wrecked our metabolism.

The book, which I happen to have, DH found it at Dollar Tree for $1. . .is from Curves.

Some one else recommended some tweaks for the calories. (not eating as high calorie)

It is all over at the Kimkins site, doing KK the healthy and sane way. . .if you are interested.

The scarey part for me is eating to gain weight. . .then cycling. . .but if you have the time (and I took the time, yikes) go have a look.

Interested in what you have to say. . .

As it related to taming the food issues.
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I'm here.
I'm not happy, but I'm here...

I really have been "bingey" all day and couldn't get satisfied, even though I had eaten a good breakkfast, filling lunch and then a snack. Stupidly, I truly thought I could handle eating 'some' almonds without going hog wild. WRONG. I not only ate enough almonds to be sick over, I then ate too many chocolate chip cookies to ever admit to here, or anywhere else.

I can only hope and pray that with the new start here in August's thread, I can grow from here and become nut and sugar and binge free.
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We are all working on the same thing, Rebecca!

And looking for answers!

Let's dig some answers out!
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Luckiangel: You put your photo up too!!! I love it. I am getting there...I just have to find a recent picture. I don't have one.

Rebecca:
I was feeling bingey all day too. I had an omelet this morning, a huge salad with pork for lunch, and I was still "hungry" so I snacked on pork rinds and then came home and had baked chicken and salad. It was only 4 PM...I got a ways to go before the day is over. I just gulped down alot of water that has helped...I even hate drinking water, but it seems to have gotten rid of the bingey feel. I must have been thirsty...I've got to listen to my body.

When I am eating well...I often get over confident and think I can eat my favorite things moderately, but I quickly find out that I am wrong. Rebecca, its OK...just keep moving forward...you are doing well. Try to throw off your patterns and habits by doing something else. I know it is easier said than done. Its ok that you are using almonds and cookies as a substitute ...hopefully that will be short term until you can find new "activities" that become your new WOL.

Magnamater- Thanks...I'll take a look at the thread. Although I am not trying to lose weight, I've read a bit about carb cycling. It is a very interesting theory...I had the same thought as you ...I'd be afraid of the intentional weight gain on carbing up only to carb down...will the carbing down work? that would be my question. Also increasing carbs, even veggie carbs, starts to stir my craving and that I am not will to toy with to find out. Let me know what you decide.

I am not convinced our metabolisms are "wreck" by dieting. IMO, I think our bodies (metabolism) adapted because we didn't listen to what our bodies were asking of us; we listened to our heads instead. IMO, if we learn to listen to our bodies...our metabolisms will respond favorable. That is not to discount that some are dealt a better metabolism than others.

I recently started taking a few minute to "center myself" by closing my eyes, breathing slowly and deeply in complete quiteness and try to hone in my body feelings. I am trying to reconnect my brain to the body. I know it is corny, but it is working. My binges are much less frequent and intense.

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Thank you, magnamater and Steady.

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Its ok that you are using almonds and cookies as a substitute ...hopefully that will be short term until you can find new "activities" that become your new WOL.
Steady, that really made me feel better. So, thank you!

It has been two weeks since I've had PB. That is HUGE for me!

I'm okay with eating almonds, even overeating them, occasionally.
It's the sugar that is so stupid and just plain no good for me.

Tomorrow is a new day!!!
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I recently started taking a few minute to "center myself" by closing my eyes, breathing slowly and deeply in complete quiteness and try to hone in my body feelings. I am trying to reconnect my brain to the body. I know it is corny, but it is working. My binges are much less frequent and intense.
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PERSPECTIVE:

I've not had PB for two weeks, which is HUGE for me.
If I eat (or overeat) almonds sometimes, it's okay.

Sugar, however, is not okay.
That's just plain no good for me, at all!
One bite leads to more and it makes me feel awful. Yuck.

Bottom line: everything will be all right.
I will be kind to myself, forgive myself for making poor choices and move forward.

So, I'll be up a couple pounds for a couple of days...
It's not the end of the world.

I'm learning and I'm getting better.

I am really blessed with the life I lead.
As much as I sometimes think that my food addiction is such a big and complex problem, in reality, it is not.

I am lucky, I am blessed, and I am grateful for all of the good in my life.

I will focus on living a joyful life.
My eating and weight will fall into a perfect place and settle.
I will be free, I will find peace and happiness.
All will be well.


Happy Friday and happy w/e, everyone !!!
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:23 AM   #10
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I've had 3 days of good, healthy on-plan eating. Prior to that I decided to "do Atkins '72" In hindsight I realize that it was a justification for a meat/egg/cheese/fat binge. This lasted for 2 days until I regained my sanity. It is, imo, a great plan for many people, but not for me. I MUST have boundaries and limitations because I will continue to eat until I explode (or feel physical pain). I'm not beating myself up over this. I count it as yet another lesson learned and have moved on.

Rebecca~ I am VERY proud of you for being PB free for 2 weeks!!! That is AWESOME!!!! I really enjoyed your "perspecitve" post....so many words of wisdom! Just reading them makes me feel good....thank you! I hope you're having a wonderful day!

Steady~I always enjoy your posts! I can relate to 99.9% of what you write.
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I recently started taking a few minute to "center myself" by closing my eyes, breathing slowly and deeply in complete quiteness and try to hone in my body feelings. I am trying to reconnect my brain to the body. I know it is corny, but it is working. My binges are much less frequent and intense.
That sounds like a great idea! I have considered taking a meditation class to help control my COE. Maybe I'll start off with something similar to what you do ....thanks for the idea!

magnamater~you mentioned doing KK the "healthy and sane way" and cycling. I'm sure it would work for many people but it would not be a good plan for me. I would overly restrict during the KK phase and then binge during the cycling phase (I'm assuming this is like a "refeed".... please correct me if I'm wrong)
I do much better with a consisent, moderate woe. Too few or too many calories will always throw me into binge mode.

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Telemetrynurse, right now I am doing KK 3 days, then 1400 LC cal/day until I gain 5 lbs (and hopefully that won't happen, maybe even loose, then I'll add a little more cal), then KK 3 days. . .so the up phase is fairly moderate.

I do understand what you say. . .I'm trying to fix a bunch of things. . .and loose the last lbs. . .less than 10. Fix my metabolism. Lifelong dieter.

I'm a work in progress.
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Old 08-03-2007, 11:35 PM   #12
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Glad I found you guys again. My harddrive seems to be kind of screwy lately. We have to leave it on all the time now or else we need to use the off switch to turn it on for some reason. Takes about 10 trys before it starts windows up.

I had been doing okay until this afternoon when I got frustrated with the kids and their fussy eating and said fine I will eat all the mushrooms out of your chilli so you won't have to see them. That started me on a carb binge later in on the evening.

Also I realize that even with the chilli I am really realizing that chicken is unfortunately a binge food for me. I bought a bunch of drumsticks on sale and ended up eating 7 of them to myself. I am always going to have issues with chicken so I cut up all the packages into smaller 6 packs which will leave 2 drumsticks for each child and if I have to cut the meat off the bone then I will just have enough meat left on the drumstick for me to have a small bite. I will just have to have something else during meals with chicken.

I want to ask a bit of weird question: Does anyone besides me ever binge after I read this or other lowcarb/diet forums when already in a bit of mood and can't find a thread that really relates to how I am feeling or my emotional needs aren't been met on the board?(not by my own posts, just by the posts in general) Does this make sense?
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Old 08-04-2007, 05:48 PM   #13
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Hey Girls...

Rebecca- 2+ weeks!!! Congrats you are doing great! Keep looking forward....and as you said, your eating and weight will settle. I guess that was what I was trying to say to Amiga. I agree avoiding sugar is probably a good idea it just sticks a wrench into an already challenging situation.

TelemetryNurse: So good to hear from you...I can relate to your stint with Atkins '72...that was like my high-fatting stint...an excuse to eat EXCESSIVE amounts of mayo, chicken skin, and fatty beef. Yes, it tasted good, but I know deep down it was taking advantage of the idea and I wasn't decreasing my protein. I guess because I had always avoided fat in my HC/LF days. Don't get me wrong..I now eat enough fat to keep me satiated.

Magnamater: From one life-time dieter to another, we are all works in progress... atleast it is progress.

Momof3heathens: I think I have this problem with pork loin, although chicken legs might be a close second. I could easily finish off a 1lb pork tenderloin by myself in ONE sitting. I really have to restrain myself from eatting too much. I haven't binged after reading threads, but I use to binge after writing in my journal...I guess rehashing stressful situations overwhelmed me enough to binge. Now I just write how I feel and what I learned from the day's situation rather than rehashing the details. Reading too many threads (especially since many discuss diet/weightloss frustrations with LC) can overwhelm anyone with this WOL,...enough to make you give in and binge, especially if you are already in a mood...I could totally see that happening. Is that how you feel? If so, maybe you want to limit your viewing to the success stories! Do what you need to do to avoid a binge...even if that means not participating in this thread. We are all different, but our objective is the same...that is need for support to avoid bingeing. I support whatever you need to do just that!
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We all are!

Thank you telemetrynurse & steady for your encouragement about my being PB-Free! Today will be my 17th day w/o it (longest time, ever), and it feels great!

However, I've been way overeating almonds. 9 oz just yesterday, in fact.

So, as with any food-addiction, I must get rid of them.
The absence of sugar, PB, and nuts in my life will bring me freedom.

On to living, with no more obsessing and regrets.

*Abstinence from triggers is the foundation of my good life!*

I will abstain form that first bite, remembering that binge food always makes me feel worse.

I will continue to learn, to grow, and to heal every day of recovery.

After today, I'll be away for the week, on vacation with my boys.
I wish all of my friends here days of good, healthy eating and positive thoughts and attitudes.

Thanks to all of you for your ongoing support!
(I'll check in next weekend).

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We all are!
So, as with any food-addiction, I must get rid of them....

*Abstinence from triggers is the foundation of my good life!*

I will abstain form that first bite, remembering that binge food always makes me feel worse.

Rebecca, enjoy your vacation with the Boys...it is well-deserved.
I like your thoughts about abstaining...that is sticking with me...and going into my journal too!!!
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However, I've been way overeating almonds. 9 oz just yesterday, in fact.

So, as with any food-addiction, I must get rid of them.
The absence of sugar, PB, and nuts in my life will bring me freedom.
You continue to INSPIRE me with your honesty, self-evaluation and determination to be "free" and healthy! CONGRATS on your decision to eliminate a "problem" food!

Personally, it is sometimes SO hard to be honest about trigger foods because I really don't want to give them up. But the truth DOES set me free! And after eliminating those foods I always feel better after the initial yearning/cravings pass.

Good luck everybody!
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Hi everyone-
I been around the boards for a few years now and had been maintaining a 60 lbs wt loss until this summer when my binge eating resurfaced. I am up a size and 15 lbs to boot. I took my weight out of my profile because I'm so disgusted. Now i know being a size 6 instead of a 4 is not the end of the world, but to me it's just a few short stepa away from wearing a 16 again.

I know my triggers are stress and anxiety, but hello...how does one live a life free of those things. SIGH.
Truthfully I feel like giving up. I'm tired of this battle.
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Smythe, you've worked too hard to give up.

Everyone here struggles, some days more than others, with food issues.

There is some help to be had, and some safety in talking with people you feel safe to talk about these things with.

No, no one lives without stress.

But hopefully, if we just learn some strategies. . .and replace the food with another activity to mask pain/anxiety/stress.

At least that is what the food monster does for me--helps me cope with the myriad of expressions of life, and not just the bad ones.

Others???
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Smythe- Congratulations on your weightloss and more importantly your maintenance. I know maintenance is difficult...don't give up!...get on board now. Losing 15 is much easier than losing 60. I think you know this but you are burned out between juggling the stress and attempting to maintain your diet.

You said you gained the weight because of stress eating, so if you just get that under control you will lose that 15. Trust me, my weight dropped quickly when I got my binges down from every day to the occasional bout. I am sure you will too.

I, like you, am a stress binger. Yes, stress will always be there, so the only thing we can do is handle it differently. We know bingeing just ends up making us feel worse and adds more stress. Figure the type of stress it is then work at dealing with it. If it is demand stress...we need to chip or work at it so it dissipates; if it is a stress that is "out of our control" then we need to change our perception of it. Although food may help us temporarily deal with it, food will not make it go away...unfortunately stress will never cease.

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Thanks for the encouraging words. I did get a grip today,and I started a home project that should tie me up for weeks!! I seriously cannot afford a new wardrobeso gaining more wt isn't an option. My son is leaving for college in 3 weeks so i'm sure that is adding to the stress and anxiety. No problems today tho, so I have 1 day officially under my belt! Thanks for listening. I think I'll stick around here for a bit!!
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How are you all doing? I am doing OK. As TOM comes around I can feel the binge monster getting restless...I'm worried, but maintaining good control of other factors stress etc.
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Hi everyone!

Well still on plan and down 5 lbs so that's a good thing! Lots of water wt I suppose. I'll be gone for a few day...heading to the beach. See you when I get back!
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Congrat's Smythe!!! keep at it!! I've been able to stay on plan for three days now! I'm feelin better of course but wish I could really move these lbs off......I guess my price to pay for giving in when I shouldn't have. At least things are progressing.

breakfast - two eggplant slices (pan fried with pork rinds), 1/2 cup carb reduced yogurt
lunch - salad with crab, two celery stalks with turkey slices.
dinner - will be pork steaks with chili verde, salad.
snack - 1/2 cup s/f pudding.
I've had 4 16 oz cups of water so far.


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Smythe & Luckiangel- the rewards for staying on plan will soon show up on the scale. Be patient....you are both doing great. I wish I could say the same for me...

This PMS thing really screws me up. I am NOT on plan. I can't tell if I binge because I am upset that ate a food that I didn't plan to eat and I know I "should be" full, but still feel hungry or because I gave in to eating too much food that isn't very healthy (LC- salty, spicy, and fatty). I think it is both...I usually can handle food cravings when it is just food cravings, but when its both, emotional and food, it is just too much for me to handle. WHY CAN'T I BE STRONGER??? I don't know how to handle this....

I wonder if I am making a big deal out of what others consider just apart of dealing with PMS? KWIM---Other people do binge around TOM and accept it, but I binge and having trouble accepting that it "OK".

I am just filled with conflicting thoughts.
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Smythe & Luckiangel- the rewards for staying on plan will soon show up on the scale. Be patient....you are both doing great. I wish I could say the same for me...

This PMS thing really screws me up. I am NOT on plan. I can't tell if I binge because I am upset that ate a food that I didn't plan to eat and I know I "should be" full, but still feel hungry or because I gave in to eating too much food that isn't very healthy (LC- salty, spicy, and fatty). I think it is both...I usually can handle food cravings when it is just food cravings, but when its both, emotional and food, it is just too much for me to handle. WHY CAN'T I BE STRONGER??? I don't know how to handle this....

I wonder if I am making a big deal out of what others consider just apart of dealing with PMS? KWIM---Other people do binge around TOM and accept it, but I binge and having trouble accepting that it "OK".

I am just filled with conflicting thoughts.
Any help or guidance would be helpful.
Big hugs to you. I don't have