Atkins or PP: Which controls hunger best?

Lillianna · 01-03-2008, 05:28 PM

I don't really know too much about Protein Power but from what I've just read here, I'm definitely interested. My big problem is hunger! I don't really find that fat fills me up like it does for most people. I've been adding extra butter, sour cream and cream cheese to just about everything I cook and I'm still sooo hungry 2-3 hours after I eat. I don't eat a lot of meat, although I do get quite a bit of protein from cheese and eggs. I've never tried any kind of protein powder. I'm probably only getting 1/2 of the protein that PP would require (if that).

Do you think the extra protein helps control your hunger? When I stick to Atkins and eat enough so that I'm not hungry, I'm eating over 2000 calories and not losing an ounce. I've really fallen off the wagon this past month and I'm ready to get back to healthy eating. The extra fat is great for some people but for me it just seems to be causing me to eat way too many calories.

I'll check out the local library this week and see if they have the book....Thanks in advance for your input!

soosee · 01-04-2008, 04:49 PM

How many carbs are you eating with each meal? Are you amenable to eating more meat or eggs?

My husband and I just started the Protein Power way of eating on 1/1, and I did Atkins for quite some time a few years back. I do think that all of the protein fills me up and keeps me full, but only when I eat it with fat and carbs. Last time I had a protein shake (with 1tbsp heavy cream added) I was hungry within a couple of hours. But this morning I had the same protein shake (with 1/4 cup whole milk and 1tsp flaxseed oil) and 1/2 cup strawberries, and I wasn't hungry for about 4 hours. I'm averaging around 1500 calories/day, with 57% from fat, 37% from protein, and 6% from carbs (average of 25 effective carbs/day).

Now, my husband doesn't seem to be so lucky with getting/staying full. He tends to eat his food super-fast (he's a firefighter, I think it's part of the job!) and I think that might be part of the problem. He is usually done with his entire meal before I even eat 1/4 of mine. He also tends to skip meals (bad, I know) and I think that contributes to the problem. I did find that the times he does get full and stays full for a few hours have been after eating eggs with meat and cheese with some carbs (strawberries or blueberries usually).

Lillianna · 01-04-2008, 04:54 PM

Thanks, Chrissy.....I think I'm going to get some protein powder and see how I do with protein shakes for breakfast. I'll make sure to add some full-fat milk as you suggested. I don't have any flax oil but I do have coconut oil. I'm going to see if my local library has Protein Power.....

It looks like this is your first post. Welcome! This is a great place to come for support....

soosee · 01-04-2008, 05:06 PM

Thanks for the welcome

I've been lurking for some time, and finally decided to join in with the fun!

If you can find The 30-Day Low-Carb Diet Solution by the Eades I highly recommend it. It makes the plan so simple! I did read Protein Power and Protein Power Life Plan as well, but 30-Day book really simplifies everything.

nitenurse · 01-07-2008, 08:05 AM

For what it's worth-I am an Atkins Forever person, but it works best for me combined with Protein Power, inasmuch if I get the 3 servings of protein, I seem to fill up and not need so much total food-I still eat the fat and keep the carbs way down, but if I just do that, and don't eat enough protein, I don't lose.
We are all different.

peachy · 01-12-2008, 02:56 PM

Hey everybody -- I 've always felt like I eat more junk and processed foods on atkins than I do on Protein Power. Less nitrites and the like. I eat pretty cleanly on Protein Power if I stay honest. I not only feel fuller, but I feel stronger.

ymonette · 04-02-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lillianna

I don't really know too much about Protein Power but from what I've just read here, I'm definitely interested. My big problem is hunger! I don't really find that fat fills me up like it does for most people. I've been adding extra butter, sour cream and cream cheese to just about everything I cook and I'm still sooo hungry 2-3 hours after I eat. I don't eat a lot of meat, although I do get quite a bit of protein from cheese and eggs. I've never tried any kind of protein powder. I'm probably only getting 1/2 of the protein that PP would require (if that).

Do you think the extra protein helps control your hunger? When I stick to Atkins and eat enough so that I'm not hungry, I'm eating over 2000 calories and not losing an ounce. I've really fallen off the wagon this past month and I'm ready to get back to healthy eating. The extra fat is great for some people but for me it just seems to be causing me to eat way too many calories.

I'll check out the local library this week and see if they have the book....Thanks in advance for your input!

Hey I just added Shangri-la to my Protein Power and it's the first time since like November that I am not STARVING!

8 days in and I feel great. Still hungry feeling but it definitely feels like I can control it. It's like hunger but with less of the discomfort....and some mild lightheadedness which is not bad really.

nitenurse · 04-04-2008, 08:52 AM

I still use the zero carb protein shakes-1 in am with the pills, vits, etc. and one in evening if last meal has worn off and I need to hush the wolf howling. The am shake usually only lasts a couple hours. Soooo most of my real food eating is between 10 am and 5 pm, and usually only one or two Atkins type meals, as low in carb and as close to PP as I can. Seems to work for me.

slendercate · 04-05-2008, 01:43 PM

Nitenurse,
Where do you purchase zero carb shakes? I assume they are whey protein.
when I add fiber like fibersmart, they hold me for atleast 4 hours.

nitenurse · 04-05-2008, 04:31 PM

I get the zero carb from Netrition, the sponsor of this site. It's expensive, but it's a huge jar of it, and it lasts a month or two.

belleadonna · 04-12-2008, 03:42 AM

Yeah, I find that I do better on a Protein Power type plan than Atkins. Atkins is way too low in fiber and carbs for me. The first time I did Atkins I got severe diarrhea from lack of fiber and my gall bladder went nutsy from too much fat.
You just have to find what works for you. I like to do a leaner protein plan than most because I feel better on it. I still feel full though. I eat 6 small meals a day.
Thank God I don't have any health issues so I tend to do the higher carb (55 grams a day) and I also lift weights so I need the extra energy that the carbs provide.
I try not to eat any processed foods though. Just meat, eggs, low sugar fruits, lots of veggies, and nuts. I do almost no dairy at all because of sinus problems.

melboogy · 05-28-2008, 08:54 AM

LILLIANA,
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE YOUR LAST POST, BUT YOU HAD MENTIONED YOU EAT A LOT OF DAIRY (EGGS AND CHEESE). I DON'T THINK IT IS RECOMMENDED IN THE PROTEIN POWER BOOK TO CONSUME MORE THAN A SUGGESTED AMOUNT PER DAY OR PER SERVING. I DON'T HAVE THE BOOK WITH ME BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO CHEESE, NO MORE THAN 2 OUNCES PER SERVING. AND EGGS SHOULD BE NO MORE THAN 2 WHOLE EGGS AND IF YOU WANT MORE THAN IT SHOULD BE JUST EGG WHITES TO MAKE UP THE REST OF YOU PROTEIN REQ. AND YOU NEED LEAN MEATS AS WELL.
ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T DO SHAKES I DON'T FEEL SATISFIED LIKE WITH MEAT, EGGS, AND CHEESE. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I CAN'T REMEMBER EVER BEING HUNGRY FOLLOWING THE PROTEIN POWER DIET PLAN. IT IS VERY SATISFYING AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THIS WAY OF EATING. IF I'M BUSY AND I LET TOO MUCH TIME PASS IN BETWEEN MEALS I EAT PEANUTS, ALMONDS, ETC. JUST A HANDFUL TIL THE FOOD IS DONE. AND ANOTHER THING THAT I NOTICE IS I HAVE NO SWEET TOOTH. AS LONG AS I DON'T GO OVER THE RECOMMENDED CARB INTAKE PER MEAL. YOU'LL BE FINE JUST HANG IN THERE!!!

pure_radiance · 05-29-2008, 04:17 PM

I have battled to stay on Atkins for quite a few years and could never last more than 3 months without cheating then falling off the wagon.......I am hopeful PP will help me stay on it, with the allowances for fruit....that is usually what makes me fail Atkins.....and too much fat....I feel sick eating all that fat, and I have to admit I am sick of meat and eggs right now too.....so I am trying to figure out alternative protein sources....having a berry smoothie right now with unsweetened almond milk and whey protein power as well as frozen berries....

Anyway, I hope that PP is the solution for you as well!

Good Luck!

Natascha

melboogy · 05-29-2008, 06:06 PM

protein shakes or any other shakes are not something i'm familiar with at all....but for breakfast i could suggest cottage cheese. i know a lot of people say no way. but on protein power you have to say Yes way...i can't tell you how many times it saved me from omelette hell !!
I LOVE TO MIX FAT FREE OR 1% COTTAGE CHEESE SMALL CURDS WITH FRESH STRAWBERRIES CUT UP, OR 1 PINEAPPLE SLICE FROM A CAN (THE CAN THAT SAYS IN IT'S OWN JUICE EVEN THOUGH I DON'T USE THE JUICE) AND IT MAKES FOR A SCRUMPTUOUS BREAKFAST.
1 CUP IS 28G OF PROTEIN...AND THE STRAWBERRIES ARE HARDLY ANYTHING AT ALL (CARBS)
AND IF YOU'RE SICK OF MEAT MAYBE TRY SOME FISH...TILAPIA, SALMON, TUNA STEAKS, SHRIMP (THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES I EAT)
WHAT GOOD ABOUT PROTEIN POWER IS THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF MEAT AND EGGS AND CHEESE TO FULFILL YOUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.
OH AND ANOTHER THING I KNOW THAT PROTEIN POWER ALLOWS FRUIT BUT MANY FRUITS ARE VERY HIGH IN CARBS SO WATCH OUT YOU DON'T GO OVER 30GRAMS OF CARBS FOR PHASE 1...THE BOOK HAS A CHART SHOWING WHAT A 10 GRAM SERVING IS FOR EACH FRUIT, SOMETIMES IT'S A HALF OF SOMETHING OR EVEN 1/4 AND SOME FRUITS DON'T EVEN LIST A 5 OR 10 GRAM SERVING SIZE.
I THINK MOST BERRIES ARE SAFE SO YOU'RE DOING GOOD SO FAR.
HANG IN THERE
I HOPE I WAS A LITTLE HELPFUL

01-03-2008, 05:28 PM	#1
Lillianna Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New England Posts: 609 Gallery: Lillianna Stats: 240/200.5/150 5'6" WOE: Low Carb Start Date: 12/27/06	Atkins or PP: Which controls hunger best? I don't really know too much about Protein Power but from what I've just read here, I'm definitely interested. My big problem is hunger! I don't really find that fat fills me up like it does for most people. I've been adding extra butter, sour cream and cream cheese to just about everything I cook and I'm still sooo hungry 2-3 hours after I eat. I don't eat a lot of meat, although I do get quite a bit of protein from cheese and eggs. I've never tried any kind of protein powder. I'm probably only getting 1/2 of the protein that PP would require (if that). Do you think the extra protein helps control your hunger? When I stick to Atkins and eat enough so that I'm not hungry, I'm eating over 2000 calories and not losing an ounce. I've really fallen off the wagon this past month and I'm ready to get back to healthy eating. The extra fat is great for some people but for me it just seems to be causing me to eat way too many calories. I'll check out the local library this week and see if they have the book....Thanks in advance for your input!

01-04-2008, 04:49 PM	#2
soosee Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 151 Gallery: soosee Stats: 191/186/130 WOE: My own thing for now :) Start Date: 1/1/2008, Restart 5/2008	How many carbs are you eating with each meal? Are you amenable to eating more meat or eggs? My husband and I just started the Protein Power way of eating on 1/1, and I did Atkins for quite some time a few years back. I do think that all of the protein fills me up and keeps me full, but only when I eat it with fat and carbs. Last time I had a protein shake (with 1tbsp heavy cream added) I was hungry within a couple of hours. But this morning I had the same protein shake (with 1/4 cup whole milk and 1tsp flaxseed oil) and 1/2 cup strawberries, and I wasn't hungry for about 4 hours. I'm averaging around 1500 calories/day, with 57% from fat, 37% from protein, and 6% from carbs (average of 25 effective carbs/day). Now, my husband doesn't seem to be so lucky with getting/staying full. He tends to eat his food super-fast (he's a firefighter, I think it's part of the job!) and I think that might be part of the problem. He is usually done with his entire meal before I even eat 1/4 of mine. He also tends to skip meals (bad, I know) and I think that contributes to the problem. I did find that the times he does get full and stays full for a few hours have been after eating eggs with meat and cheese with some carbs (strawberries or blueberries usually). __________________ Chrissy Watch me and my husband lose! http://lowcarbchrissy.blogspot.com Goal 1 - 170 by 01/31/2008

04-12-2008, 03:42 AM	#11
belleadonna Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 318 Gallery: belleadonna Stats: 146/146/135 WOE: moderate carbs/natural foods/coconut oil Start Date: June 4, 2008	Yeah, I find that I do better on a Protein Power type plan than Atkins. Atkins is way too low in fiber and carbs for me. The first time I did Atkins I got severe diarrhea from lack of fiber and my gall bladder went nutsy from too much fat. You just have to find what works for you. I like to do a leaner protein plan than most because I feel better on it. I still feel full though. I eat 6 small meals a day. Thank God I don't have any health issues so I tend to do the higher carb (55 grams a day) and I also lift weights so I need the extra energy that the carbs provide. I try not to eat any processed foods though. Just meat, eggs, low sugar fruits, lots of veggies, and nuts. I do almost no dairy at all because of sinus problems. __________________ If two friends ask you to judge a dispute, don't accept, because you will lose one friend; on the other hand, if two strangers come with the same request, accept because you will gain one friend. Saint Augustine

05-29-2008, 04:17 PM	#13
pure_radiance Junior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: WA State Posts: 1 Gallery: pure_radiance Stats: 236/233.6/150 WOE: Protein Power Start Date: Re Started May 28, 2008	New to PP as well.... I have battled to stay on Atkins for quite a few years and could never last more than 3 months without cheating then falling off the wagon.......I am hopeful PP will help me stay on it, with the allowances for fruit....that is usually what makes me fail Atkins.....and too much fat....I feel sick eating all that fat, and I have to admit I am sick of meat and eggs right now too.....so I am trying to figure out alternative protein sources....having a berry smoothie right now with unsweetened almond milk and whey protein power as well as frozen berries.... Anyway, I hope that PP is the solution for you as well! Good Luck! Natascha

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

01-04-2008, 04:54 PM	#3
Lillianna Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New England Posts: 609 Gallery: Lillianna Stats: 240/200.5/150 5'6" WOE: Low Carb Start Date: 12/27/06	Thanks, Chrissy.....I think I'm going to get some protein powder and see how I do with protein shakes for breakfast. I'll make sure to add some full-fat milk as you suggested. I don't have any flax oil but I do have coconut oil. I'm going to see if my local library has Protein Power..... It looks like this is your first post. Welcome! This is a great place to come for support....

01-04-2008, 05:06 PM	#4
soosee Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 151 Gallery: soosee Stats: 191/186/130 WOE: My own thing for now :) Start Date: 1/1/2008, Restart 5/2008	Thanks for the welcome I've been lurking for some time, and finally decided to join in with the fun! If you can find The 30-Day Low-Carb Diet Solution by the Eades I highly recommend it. It makes the plan so simple! I did read Protein Power and Protein Power Life Plan as well, but 30-Day book really simplifies everything.

01-07-2008, 08:05 AM	#5
nitenurse MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 1,713 Gallery: nitenurse Stats: 290/250(236)160 WOE: Atkins/PP/IF/EFGT Start Date: 1972	For what it's worth-I am an Atkins Forever person, but it works best for me combined with Protein Power, inasmuch if I get the 3 servings of protein, I seem to fill up and not need so much total food-I still eat the fat and keep the carbs way down, but if I just do that, and don't eat enough protein, I don't lose. We are all different.

01-12-2008, 02:56 PM	#6
peachy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: WindyCity Posts: 472 Gallery: peachy WOE: Protein Power Start Date: Too Long Ago	Hey everybody -- I 've always felt like I eat more junk and processed foods on atkins than I do on Protein Power. Less nitrites and the like. I eat pretty cleanly on Protein Power if I stay honest. I not only feel fuller, but I feel stronger.

04-04-2008, 08:52 AM	#8
nitenurse MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 1,713 Gallery: nitenurse Stats: 290/250(236)160 WOE: Atkins/PP/IF/EFGT Start Date: 1972	I still use the zero carb protein shakes-1 in am with the pills, vits, etc. and one in evening if last meal has worn off and I need to hush the wolf howling. The am shake usually only lasts a couple hours. Soooo most of my real food eating is between 10 am and 5 pm, and usually only one or two Atkins type meals, as low in carb and as close to PP as I can. Seems to work for me.

04-05-2008, 01:43 PM	#9
slendercate Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 124 Gallery: slendercate Stats: 173/154/120 WOE: Protein Power, South Beach Start Date: January 2005	Nitenurse, Where do you purchase zero carb shakes? I assume they are whey protein. when I add fiber like fibersmart, they hold me for atleast 4 hours.

04-05-2008, 04:31 PM	#10
nitenurse MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 1,713 Gallery: nitenurse Stats: 290/250(236)160 WOE: Atkins/PP/IF/EFGT Start Date: 1972	I get the zero carb from Netrition, the sponsor of this site. It's expensive, but it's a huge jar of it, and it lasts a month or two.

05-28-2008, 08:54 AM	#12
melboogy Junior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 36 Gallery: melboogy Stats: 217/212/150 WOE: PROTEIN POWER Start Date: 04/30/08	LILLIANA, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE YOUR LAST POST, BUT YOU HAD MENTIONED YOU EAT A LOT OF DAIRY (EGGS AND CHEESE). I DON'T THINK IT IS RECOMMENDED IN THE PROTEIN POWER BOOK TO CONSUME MORE THAN A SUGGESTED AMOUNT PER DAY OR PER SERVING. I DON'T HAVE THE BOOK WITH ME BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO CHEESE, NO MORE THAN 2 OUNCES PER SERVING. AND EGGS SHOULD BE NO MORE THAN 2 WHOLE EGGS AND IF YOU WANT MORE THAN IT SHOULD BE JUST EGG WHITES TO MAKE UP THE REST OF YOU PROTEIN REQ. AND YOU NEED LEAN MEATS AS WELL. ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T DO SHAKES I DON'T FEEL SATISFIED LIKE WITH MEAT, EGGS, AND CHEESE. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I CAN'T REMEMBER EVER BEING HUNGRY FOLLOWING THE PROTEIN POWER DIET PLAN. IT IS VERY SATISFYING AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THIS WAY OF EATING. IF I'M BUSY AND I LET TOO MUCH TIME PASS IN BETWEEN MEALS I EAT PEANUTS, ALMONDS, ETC. JUST A HANDFUL TIL THE FOOD IS DONE. AND ANOTHER THING THAT I NOTICE IS I HAVE NO SWEET TOOTH. AS LONG AS I DON'T GO OVER THE RECOMMENDED CARB INTAKE PER MEAL. YOU'LL BE FINE JUST HANG IN THERE!!!

05-29-2008, 06:06 PM	#14
melboogy Junior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 36 Gallery: melboogy Stats: 217/212/150 WOE: PROTEIN POWER Start Date: 04/30/08	protein shakes or any other shakes are not something i'm familiar with at all....but for breakfast i could suggest cottage cheese. i know a lot of people say no way. but on protein power you have to say Yes way...i can't tell you how many times it saved me from omelette hell !! I LOVE TO MIX FAT FREE OR 1% COTTAGE CHEESE SMALL CURDS WITH FRESH STRAWBERRIES CUT UP, OR 1 PINEAPPLE SLICE FROM A CAN (THE CAN THAT SAYS IN IT'S OWN JUICE EVEN THOUGH I DON'T USE THE JUICE) AND IT MAKES FOR A SCRUMPTUOUS BREAKFAST. 1 CUP IS 28G OF PROTEIN...AND THE STRAWBERRIES ARE HARDLY ANYTHING AT ALL (CARBS) AND IF YOU'RE SICK OF MEAT MAYBE TRY SOME FISH...TILAPIA, SALMON, TUNA STEAKS, SHRIMP (THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES I EAT) WHAT GOOD ABOUT PROTEIN POWER IS THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF MEAT AND EGGS AND CHEESE TO FULFILL YOUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. OH AND ANOTHER THING I KNOW THAT PROTEIN POWER ALLOWS FRUIT BUT MANY FRUITS ARE VERY HIGH IN CARBS SO WATCH OUT YOU DON'T GO OVER 30GRAMS OF CARBS FOR PHASE 1...THE BOOK HAS A CHART SHOWING WHAT A 10 GRAM SERVING IS FOR EACH FRUIT, SOMETIMES IT'S A HALF OF SOMETHING OR EVEN 1/4 AND SOME FRUITS DON'T EVEN LIST A 5 OR 10 GRAM SERVING SIZE. I THINK MOST BERRIES ARE SAFE SO YOU'RE DOING GOOD SO FAR. HANG IN THERE I HOPE I WAS A LITTLE HELPFUL