Filling the Void with Food - June

brilliant100 · 05-31-2007, 12:44 PM

The purpose of this thread is to explore reasons why we misuse food and solutions for reaching our weightloss goals.

I lose weight easily and regain weight easier. During both processes food is used a comforter. This is true regardless of my weight on the scale. Additonally, this has been true since I was maybe 9 years old. I'm tired of it................................

My hearts desire is to be free of this bondage of fat. Let's use this thread to start fresh in June at working towards our personal weighloss goals.

Here we go-

My name is Brilliant and i eat too much.

moonbeam_2 · 05-31-2007, 04:28 PM

Hi Brilliant!

My name is Moonbeam and I eat too much as well. Especially when I'm sad or when I feel like I 'deserve' it (like on vacations or after I've lost a good amount of weight).

I look forward to walking with you on your journey as it is also mine

brilliant100 · 05-31-2007, 04:40 PM

welome!!

moonbeam_2 · 05-31-2007, 04:57 PM

M'Kay. Been doing some lookin online, and Compulsive Eating is both an addiction and a coping mechanisim. So how is it possible to deal with problems in ways which aren't food related? Well, the bingeing is trying to deal with them by filling an empty void. Logic dictates that there must be
other ways of filling this void. And it is a deep, emotional void, a feeling of emptyness which food can only temporarily fill. What exactly is missing will vary from person to person.

Brilliant: Forgive me if I'm way out of line, but I recall a very sad event that happened pretty recently for your family. Do you think you're overeating because of that? Are you in any sort of counselling?

As far as me, I overeat because I don't feel good about myself....and every once in a while when I'm mad at my husband

. Logically, if I drop weight, I feel better about myself, and it should solve the issue. However to maintain at a lower weight I have to sacrifice some of the foods that taste good to me because I binge on them (i.e. garlic bread, cakes, pies, ice cream, pizza). That causes me to feel deprived, and then I start another cycle of eating what I like and gaining weight, feeling bad about myself, and then losing the weight again. I am really working hard to find a happy medium this time around.

moonbeam_2 · 06-02-2007, 12:16 PM

Hey Brilliant, how's it goin'?

brilliant100 · 06-04-2007, 07:36 AM

Hi Moon,

Twice this weekend I tried to respond to your post but the stupid session kept timing out.

Anyway to answer your question about the reason for the overeating. I feel like it only has to do with not wanting to give up the yummy food. Although we are still greiving the loss of our child, I cannot honesly blame my lack of control on that.

Ive reviewed my stats since December and I keep getting stuck arount the 180 pd mark. I think its because I go on a eating marathon as a way to celebrate the loss. I am so tired of this merry go round so this weekend i did not over indulge too much and plan to stay focused this week.

My body likes this weight 180's but I do not so I have to really count my cals and keep them low to get back into the 170's.

How was your weekend?

PhotoMama · 06-04-2007, 08:28 AM

Hey ladies! Mind if I join you?

I don't really know why I eat. Some of it .. most of it is emotional. I eat when I'm bored. I eat to celebrate. I eat when I look/think about my body (it's already messed up, that piece of cake can't make it any worse).

Honestly, I think my biggest problem is ... I can't say no. And I'm not talking about saying no to food. I'm talking about saying no to my husband. He's never "in the mood for" what I have planned for dinner. I actually had dinner MADE the other night and he called and said a bunch of his co-workers were having a cook out. I put my dinner in the fridge and went to the cook out. We ate every meal out this past weekend ... Friday through Sunday night. We go to the store and he throws snack cake and cookies into the basket.

Eating out and shopping like that leads to stress ... which leads to more eating. Sometimes I think that if I could just say no, losing weight wouldn't be so hard. Then there's a part of me that knows DH wouldn't be happy if I told him no ... I'm suposed to keep him happy right? That's the wife's job right? We're supposed to put our family's happiness before our own right? That's how I was raised ... that's what my mom blames the divorce on ... not keeping my dad happy. I guess that's the MAIN reason I can't say no.

Okay ... enough rambling for now.

Bobbin · 06-04-2007, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moonbeam_2

As far as me, I overeat because I don't feel good about myself....and every once in a while when I'm mad at my husband

. Logically, if I drop weight, I feel better about myself, and it should solve the issue. However to maintain at a lower weight I have to sacrifice some of the foods that taste good to me because I binge on them (i.e. garlic bread, cakes, pies, ice cream, pizza). That causes me to feel deprived, and then I start another cycle of eating what I like and gaining weight, feeling bad about myself, and then losing the weight again. I am really working hard to find a happy medium this time around.

Wow, have you been reading the inside my brain? lol This sounds exactly like my cycle of life since my mom put me on my first diet in 3rd grade.

I would love to join your thread, I've been dealing with binge eating my whole life. The only problem is, when I read about bingeing when I'm on the edge of one, it pushes me over that edge for some reason....

Anyway, my real name is Barb, and I wanted to say

!!!

brilliant100 · 06-04-2007, 12:46 PM

Hi Photomama - the other thread is not meeting my needs right now. Im still not 'beyone the binge' but I need something fresh right now. I hope this can help a little........we shall see.

Barb!

moonbeam_2 · 06-04-2007, 04:39 PM

Welcome Photomama and Barb!

I'm struggling with some thoughts. I've been doing KE since last Tuesday. I've lost 8-9 lbs. Very happy with that. My problem lies in the lack of variety. I'm about ready to run over someone for some sugar, bread or pasta.

My other thought is that I'm gonna stay on KE until I go on vacation June
23rd, and then will eat whatever I like in Vegas. My reasoning is that even though I will gain weight, I will still come back weighing less than I did at the beginning of the month.

I don't do well with deprivation, and I don't do well with food freedom. Is there a middle ground? I did well on WW for about a month, then found myself bingeing on simple carbs.

Brilliant: My body seems to like the 180's as well. I get stuck every 10lbs or so.

Barb: Maybe we can get past it this time. I just don't know how to change my thinking about food. I watch in awe the "Intuitive eating" thread, and wish it was something I could do......but not at this point. Not now.

Photo: I know that it's been practiced to put family first, but if you don't take care of you, who will? Does your husband puts you and your children first when he decides he doesn't want whatever it is you've cooked? Would it help to talk to him?

brilliant100 · 06-05-2007, 05:26 AM

Moonbeam - Im doing the Kimmer Exp too. I always lose fast on it for amoutn 5-7 days then I hit a stall and the scale either moves up a pound or I lose nothing. I agree with you on liking the food limitations but it always leads to a binge.

Yesterday I had horrible cravings all day long and I could not figure out why. One reason was the scale was up one pound so I was like 'i might as well just eat whatever'. Yesterday I also had a sugar free energy drink (Xcelerator) first thing verse my normal cup of coffee. Then after breakfast I ate like two packs of sf gum. Well duh of course I would have cravings. It was the sugar alchols and something in the energy drink.

My husband suggested I have an low carb protein drink with dinner and it really helped quiet the cravings. I felt so much better.

I also took 5-HTP (100mg) for the first time to see if it would help with appitite and mood. I must say, it made me very sleep and I had general feelings of contentment. I felt good this morning (no cravings) and kinda happy for not reason. I hope the 5-htp is the reason.

Whenever I eat very low cal/low carbs I start feeling sad for not reason at all and the longer I eat that way the worse the feelings get. I never noticed until I read someones post about the same thing last week. I was a major eye opener for me.

brilliant100 · 06-05-2007, 05:29 AM

Moonbeam - I plan to do KE until i reach goal. Which I think is 160 however I will try to go a few pounds under to give me wiggle room.

Once I hit 160 I plan to treat myself to a 1/2 day spa.

I lose really fast on KE when I stick to ti and the inches come off so fast it is amazing. I just gotta keep going..........................

Once I get to goal I will switch to higer fat and lower carb. I have more energy when I can eat more fat plus the food choices are so yummy. I miss cheese and mayo. But can go without for a few more weeks.

brilliant100 · 06-05-2007, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbin

Wow, have you been reading the inside my brain? lol This sounds exactly like my cycle of life since my mom put me on my first diet in 3rd grade.

I would love to join your thread, I've been dealing with binge eating my whole life. The only problem is, when I read about bingeing when I'm on the edge of one, it pushes me over that edge for some reason....

Anyway, my real name is Barb, and I wanted to say

!!!

My grandmother put me on a diet in 3-4th grade too. I was so hungry at lunch and she barely gave me any food to eat. I would have two pieces of lunchmeat wraped in lettuce and cheese. I will never forget that

.

I pray I never make my daughter feel like she is not good enough because of her weight. It sucks spending so much energy on fighting fat. A lot of the energy is mental cuz you beat yourself up.

Being treated differently because you are fat hurts sooo bad. Yet, I find myself thinking bad thoughts about people who are fatter than me.

I am ashamed to admit that but its true. May God forgive me.

brilliant100 · 06-05-2007, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhotoMama

Honestly, I think my biggest problem is ... I can't say no. And I'm not talking about saying no to food. I'm talking about saying no to my husband. He's never "in the mood for" what I have planned for dinner.

Eating out and shopping like that leads to stress ... which leads to more eating. Sometimes I think that if I could just say no, losing weight wouldn't be so hard. Then there's a part of me that knows DH wouldn't be happy if I told him no ... I'm suposed to keep him happy right? That's the wife's job right? We're supposed to put our family's happiness before our own right? That's how I was raised ... that's what my mom blames the divorce on ... not keeping my dad happy. I guess that's the MAIN reason I can't say no.

Okay ... enough rambling for now.

This is very deep when you really think about it. IMO, its not respectful to tell an adult 'no' about the type of food they want to eat. My husband eats healthy most of the time but he also enjoys junk and can eat way more than I can and not gain like me. I agree with you about not saying no to him about these types of things (going to a cookout after Ive cooked, or buying junk food). I agree because I dont think its worth arguing about. There are more important things in life (dont sweat the small stuff). Besides, now the cooked dinner can go in the freezer for later or can become lunch for the next couple of days

It does make it very hard to stick to a eating plan when junk food is around. One thing Ive tried is putting the junk in a cabinet or drawer I rarely go into so I dont have to see it over and over again (triggers cravings). This works sometimes

brilliant100 · 06-05-2007, 05:51 AM

I really like how this thread is growing. For me, its really the small daily things that make reaching goal so hard. For example, the way I think about work, home, money etc. Food is used to make me feel better.

Perhaps this coping will never go away but it would be kool to a least identify when it is happening verses eating to go numb or escape.

Bobbin · 06-05-2007, 06:56 AM

Moonbean & Brilliant, thanks so much for the welcome! I'll have to read up on KE. I honestly don't know anything about it. I do know it's time for me to stay off the scale for a bit, I'm about half way through week 2 of induction, lost the water weight, and now haven't lost any for 4 or 5 days. If I get on the scale before my "official WI" day, I'm just inviting a binge. I've been fighting it a little the past few days anyway.

In regards to my first diet in 3rd grade, the Dr. told my mom to do it, so I could lose 5 lbs over the summer. I did lose the 5 lbs, but also learned how to "sneak" food which is something I do to this day! Later, in high school, my friends and I taught each other how to do a full on binge. We'd all bring one or 2 horribly fattening things to school once a month, and just pig out. A year or so after that we learned about laxatives, and a bulemic was born! Luckily, I was able to kick that myself out of fear of death after about 10 years, but the bingeing stayed, and voila! Up and down, up and down the scale I go! I've tried to just "eat normally" but it just doesn't seem to exist for me. I'm going to have to read that intuitive eating thread you mentioned. My only fear is when I'm on total restriction of carbs like I am now, when I go off, lock up your sugar! Its like days and days stretching to weeks of eating candy, cake, etc for breakfast, lunch and dinner! It's amazing how quickly you can put weight back on after low carbing.

Brilliant, your last comment about going numb to escape, WOW. I just quit smoking, I'm not a drinker, and with no food that I care to binge on I am really feeling the...let down and weight of the issues in my life right now. It's kind of depressing. That would be why I've been fighting a binge lately. Life is not always bright and sparkly!!! Sometimes it's just life with real issues and problems....

Bobbin · 06-05-2007, 09:09 AM

I meant Moonbeam, not bean

sorry! Too late to edit.

brilliant100 · 06-05-2007, 09:26 AM

[quote=Bobbin;8723169 I've tried to just "eat normally" but it just doesn't seem to exist for me. ....[/QUOTE]

Maybe we are all wrong about thsi eat normally thing. Seems to be more of us here that binge eat than dont. Could that be normal but sicentist and the media say otherwise? One time on the Discover Channel it stated that human are wired to over eat when food is abundant due to the caveman days when they never knew when/where food would come from. The problem now is that there is way to much food EVERYWHERE.

[quote=Bobbin;8723169 Brilliant, your last comment about going numb to escape, WOW. I just quit smoking, I'm not a drinker, and with no food that I care to binge on I am really feeling the...let down and weight of the issues in my life right now. It's kind of depressing. That would be why I've been fighting a binge lately. Life is not always bright and sparkly!!! Sometimes it's just life with real issues and problems....[/QUOTE]

After dieting for a few days after my 'I can do it' energy burns out I start wanting to binge too..............everytime. Yesterday I almost got started but two unusual things helped (this time anyway

). I tried 5-HTP (a vitimine) and drank a low carb protein drink before dinner. They REALLY helped to shut that binge monstor up where I could at least go in the kitchen without sneaking something to eat.

brilliant100 · 06-05-2007, 09:30 AM

Anyone see the thread a few days ago about maybe a lack of food during dieting triggers feelings of depression or sadness?

This happens to me and gets worse as I continue to diet. As soon as I binge feelings of contentment and happiness immediately come...................then regret. But what if the binge trigger is also a chemical thing? Could there be a supplement that helps.

Discuss.......

Karsen · 06-05-2007, 10:04 AM

Hi All! I lost here 3 yrs ago and have gained back... I was here when Kimmer was here. She would answer my questions & was really nice. She would even send me Private emails. Those pictures posted sure do not look like the Kimmer I remember. The 2nd picture looks more like her. (Her nose looks different!!)
Back to the subject - - I eat - out of being bored, depressed, or maybe no willpower if the food is sweets.... Downfalls are sweets. And low periods are from late afternoon till bedtime. Since I have re-gained, I've tried lowfat - and other things, but stilll having the sweets - - I can't stick with it. I know low carb is the only way. When I have tried to get back on low carb I have not lasted but a couple 3 days. Before I lost 50 lbs and so did my husband. If I could only get him to do it with me again!!!! I know....why do I need him.....I need to do this for ME.......I've got to get this 50 back off and feel good physically and good about myself again!!!
Thanks for starting this thread!
Judy
Care to share what your eating each day???

Karsen · 06-05-2007, 10:06 AM

Brilliant - - Oh, those sweets make me "feel good" at the time - - but afterwards I'm so depressed...because I did it again...

brilliant100 · 06-05-2007, 10:10 AM

Karsen

Call me slow, but I just learned how low calorie egg whites are.......and ohh so feeling. I lub eggs!

B - 5 egg whites seasoned with chili-onion-garlic powder & salt (83 cals

), canned salmon

L- canned salmon

, diet Rasberry Tea
d - 5 egg whites, one low carb/low fat protein drnki.

All day - one pack of gum or 14 pcs. I am a gum-a-holic

total cals should be under 900. Im in ketosis otherwise I would be starving.

I using fitday.com to count cals, & protein and carbs.

brilliant100 · 06-05-2007, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karsen

Brilliant - - Oh, those sweets make me "feel good" at the time - - but afterwards I'm so depressed...because I did it again...

The only thing that even remotely helps me when I am in this cycle is ketosis. To get there i eat only lean protein, unlimited eggs, lots of coffee (for caffine), sf gum, water, any diet drink. Takes about 3 days to feel more in control by day 5-7 I am in deep ketosis.

brilliant100 · 06-05-2007, 10:15 AM

When I binging on carbs.............i do embarrasing things

1. Hit one or two fast food drive thrus on my way home from work
2. Eat entire boxes or packages of sweets, carb fog, then do it again when the fog lifts.

The entire time, my clothes get tigher and tigher and feel more and more depressed. Its hel!.

PhotoMama · 06-05-2007, 10:22 AM

This thread has just taken off ... Thanks Brilliant!

I'm off to OK tomorrow for a few days. The one nice thing about going is I know I won't eat that much. Partly because DH is staying here. The other part is because I'll be with my dad and step-mom. They're very aware of their and everyone else's weight. They don't put me down or anything like that. They've never even told me I needed to lose weight ... EVER. But the fact that they're aware, makes me more aware ... KWIM? It's easier to eat the healthy stuff when everyone else is eating it too.

Maybe ... Just MAYBE I'll lose enough to get me past that 141 barrier I've been encountering. It's possible but not very likely (6-7 lbs in 4 days). I'm going to try anyway ... I'm to the point w

05-31-2007, 12:44 PM	#1
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	Filling the Void with Food - June The purpose of this thread is to explore reasons why we misuse food and solutions for reaching our weightloss goals. I lose weight easily and regain weight easier. During both processes food is used a comforter. This is true regardless of my weight on the scale. Additonally, this has been true since I was maybe 9 years old. I'm tired of it................................ My hearts desire is to be free of this bondage of fat. Let's use this thread to start fresh in June at working towards our personal weighloss goals. Here we go- My name is Brilliant and i eat too much. __________________ 8-21-07 'Jumpin back on the wagon' 194 169 goal by 9-22 Anniversay

05-31-2007, 04:57 PM	#4
moonbeam_2 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 832 Gallery: moonbeam_2 Stats: 312/205/175 5'2" WOE: EFGT with gusto Start Date: 10/02	M'Kay. Been doing some lookin online, and Compulsive Eating is both an addiction and a coping mechanisim. So how is it possible to deal with problems in ways which aren't food related? Well, the bingeing is trying to deal with them by filling an empty void. Logic dictates that there must be other ways of filling this void. And it is a deep, emotional void, a feeling of emptyness which food can only temporarily fill. What exactly is missing will vary from person to person. Brilliant: Forgive me if I'm way out of line, but I recall a very sad event that happened pretty recently for your family. Do you think you're overeating because of that? Are you in any sort of counselling? As far as me, I overeat because I don't feel good about myself....and every once in a while when I'm mad at my husband . Logically, if I drop weight, I feel better about myself, and it should solve the issue. However to maintain at a lower weight I have to sacrifice some of the foods that taste good to me because I binge on them (i.e. garlic bread, cakes, pies, ice cream, pizza). That causes me to feel deprived, and then I start another cycle of eating what I like and gaining weight, feeling bad about myself, and then losing the weight again. I am really working hard to find a happy medium this time around. __________________ 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow." Unknown I will ALWAYS treat myself with dignity.

06-04-2007, 08:28 AM	#7
PhotoMama Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 723 Gallery: PhotoMama Stats: Top/Bottom: XL-L/10-8 ... M/6 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 2007	Hey ladies! Mind if I join you? I don't really know why I eat. Some of it .. most of it is emotional. I eat when I'm bored. I eat to celebrate. I eat when I look/think about my body (it's already messed up, that piece of cake can't make it any worse). Honestly, I think my biggest problem is ... I can't say no. And I'm not talking about saying no to food. I'm talking about saying no to my husband. He's never "in the mood for" what I have planned for dinner. I actually had dinner MADE the other night and he called and said a bunch of his co-workers were having a cook out. I put my dinner in the fridge and went to the cook out. We ate every meal out this past weekend ... Friday through Sunday night. We go to the store and he throws snack cake and cookies into the basket. Eating out and shopping like that leads to stress ... which leads to more eating. Sometimes I think that if I could just say no, losing weight wouldn't be so hard. Then there's a part of me that knows DH wouldn't be happy if I told him no ... I'm suposed to keep him happy right? That's the wife's job right? We're supposed to put our family's happiness before our own right? That's how I was raised ... that's what my mom blames the divorce on ... not keeping my dad happy. I guess that's the MAIN reason I can't say no. Okay ... enough rambling for now. __________________ Visit my family @ http://www.thedavisblog.com

06-05-2007, 06:56 AM	#16
Bobbin Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 345 Gallery: Bobbin WOE: ~ IE ~	Moonbean & Brilliant, thanks so much for the welcome! I'll have to read up on KE. I honestly don't know anything about it. I do know it's time for me to stay off the scale for a bit, I'm about half way through week 2 of induction, lost the water weight, and now haven't lost any for 4 or 5 days. If I get on the scale before my "official WI" day, I'm just inviting a binge. I've been fighting it a little the past few days anyway. In regards to my first diet in 3rd grade, the Dr. told my mom to do it, so I could lose 5 lbs over the summer. I did lose the 5 lbs, but also learned how to "sneak" food which is something I do to this day! Later, in high school, my friends and I taught each other how to do a full on binge. We'd all bring one or 2 horribly fattening things to school once a month, and just pig out. A year or so after that we learned about laxatives, and a bulemic was born! Luckily, I was able to kick that myself out of fear of death after about 10 years, but the bingeing stayed, and voila! Up and down, up and down the scale I go! I've tried to just "eat normally" but it just doesn't seem to exist for me. I'm going to have to read that intuitive eating thread you mentioned. My only fear is when I'm on total restriction of carbs like I am now, when I go off, lock up your sugar! Its like days and days stretching to weeks of eating candy, cake, etc for breakfast, lunch and dinner! It's amazing how quickly you can put weight back on after low carbing. Brilliant, your last comment about going numb to escape, WOW. I just quit smoking, I'm not a drinker, and with no food that I care to binge on I am really feeling the...let down and weight of the issues in my life right now. It's kind of depressing. That would be why I've been fighting a binge lately. Life is not always bright and sparkly!!! Sometimes it's just life with real issues and problems.... __________________ Bobbin ~ Triathlete in training! ~

06-05-2007, 09:09 AM	#17
Bobbin Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 345 Gallery: Bobbin WOE: ~ IE ~	oops! I meant Moonbeam, not bean sorry! Too late to edit.

05-31-2007, 04:28 PM	#2
moonbeam_2 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 832 Gallery: moonbeam_2 Stats: 312/205/175 5'2" WOE: EFGT with gusto Start Date: 10/02	Hi Brilliant! My name is Moonbeam and I eat too much as well. Especially when I'm sad or when I feel like I 'deserve' it (like on vacations or after I've lost a good amount of weight). I look forward to walking with you on your journey as it is also mine

05-31-2007, 04:40 PM	#3
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	welome!!

06-02-2007, 12:16 PM	#5
moonbeam_2 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 832 Gallery: moonbeam_2 Stats: 312/205/175 5'2" WOE: EFGT with gusto Start Date: 10/02	Hey Brilliant, how's it goin'?

06-04-2007, 07:36 AM	#6
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	Hi Moon, Twice this weekend I tried to respond to your post but the stupid session kept timing out. Anyway to answer your question about the reason for the overeating. I feel like it only has to do with not wanting to give up the yummy food. Although we are still greiving the loss of our child, I cannot honesly blame my lack of control on that. Ive reviewed my stats since December and I keep getting stuck arount the 180 pd mark. I think its because I go on a eating marathon as a way to celebrate the loss. I am so tired of this merry go round so this weekend i did not over indulge too much and plan to stay focused this week. My body likes this weight 180's but I do not so I have to really count my cals and keep them low to get back into the 170's. How was your weekend?

06-04-2007, 12:46 PM	#9
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	Hi Photomama - the other thread is not meeting my needs right now. Im still not 'beyone the binge' but I need something fresh right now. I hope this can help a little........we shall see. Barb!

06-04-2007, 04:39 PM	#10
moonbeam_2 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 832 Gallery: moonbeam_2 Stats: 312/205/175 5'2" WOE: EFGT with gusto Start Date: 10/02	Welcome Photomama and Barb! I'm struggling with some thoughts. I've been doing KE since last Tuesday. I've lost 8-9 lbs. Very happy with that. My problem lies in the lack of variety. I'm about ready to run over someone for some sugar, bread or pasta. My other thought is that I'm gonna stay on KE until I go on vacation June 23rd, and then will eat whatever I like in Vegas. My reasoning is that even though I will gain weight, I will still come back weighing less than I did at the beginning of the month. I don't do well with deprivation, and I don't do well with food freedom. Is there a middle ground? I did well on WW for about a month, then found myself bingeing on simple carbs. Brilliant: My body seems to like the 180's as well. I get stuck every 10lbs or so. Barb: Maybe we can get past it this time. I just don't know how to change my thinking about food. I watch in awe the "Intuitive eating" thread, and wish it was something I could do......but not at this point. Not now. Photo: I know that it's been practiced to put family first, but if you don't take care of you, who will? Does your husband puts you and your children first when he decides he doesn't want whatever it is you've cooked? Would it help to talk to him?

06-05-2007, 05:26 AM	#11
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	Moonbeam - Im doing the Kimmer Exp too. I always lose fast on it for amoutn 5-7 days then I hit a stall and the scale either moves up a pound or I lose nothing. I agree with you on liking the food limitations but it always leads to a binge. Yesterday I had horrible cravings all day long and I could not figure out why. One reason was the scale was up one pound so I was like 'i might as well just eat whatever'. Yesterday I also had a sugar free energy drink (Xcelerator) first thing verse my normal cup of coffee. Then after breakfast I ate like two packs of sf gum. Well duh of course I would have cravings. It was the sugar alchols and something in the energy drink. My husband suggested I have an low carb protein drink with dinner and it really helped quiet the cravings. I felt so much better. I also took 5-HTP (100mg) for the first time to see if it would help with appitite and mood. I must say, it made me very sleep and I had general feelings of contentment. I felt good this morning (no cravings) and kinda happy for not reason. I hope the 5-htp is the reason. Whenever I eat very low cal/low carbs I start feeling sad for not reason at all and the longer I eat that way the worse the feelings get. I never noticed until I read someones post about the same thing last week. I was a major eye opener for me.

06-05-2007, 05:29 AM	#12
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	Moonbeam - I plan to do KE until i reach goal. Which I think is 160 however I will try to go a few pounds under to give me wiggle room. Once I hit 160 I plan to treat myself to a 1/2 day spa. I lose really fast on KE when I stick to ti and the inches come off so fast it is amazing. I just gotta keep going.......................... Once I get to goal I will switch to higer fat and lower carb. I have more energy when I can eat more fat plus the food choices are so yummy. I miss cheese and mayo. But can go without for a few more weeks.

06-05-2007, 05:51 AM	#15
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	I really like how this thread is growing. For me, its really the small daily things that make reaching goal so hard. For example, the way I think about work, home, money etc. Food is used to make me feel better. Perhaps this coping will never go away but it would be kool to a least identify when it is happening verses eating to go numb or escape.

06-05-2007, 09:26 AM	#18
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	[quote=Bobbin;8723169 I've tried to just "eat normally" but it just doesn't seem to exist for me. ....[/QUOTE] Maybe we are all wrong about thsi eat normally thing. Seems to be more of us here that binge eat than dont. Could that be normal but sicentist and the media say otherwise? One time on the Discover Channel it stated that human are wired to over eat when food is abundant due to the caveman days when they never knew when/where food would come from. The problem now is that there is way to much food EVERYWHERE. [quote=Bobbin;8723169 Brilliant, your last comment about going numb to escape, WOW. I just quit smoking, I'm not a drinker, and with no food that I care to binge on I am really feeling the...let down and weight of the issues in my life right now. It's kind of depressing. That would be why I've been fighting a binge lately. Life is not always bright and sparkly!!! Sometimes it's just life with real issues and problems....[/QUOTE] After dieting for a few days after my 'I can do it' energy burns out I start wanting to binge too..............everytime. Yesterday I almost got started but two unusual things helped (this time anyway ). I tried 5-HTP (a vitimine) and drank a low carb protein drink before dinner. They REALLY helped to shut that binge monstor up where I could at least go in the kitchen without sneaking something to eat. Last edited by brilliant100 : 06-05-2007 at 09:27 AM.

06-05-2007, 09:30 AM	#19
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	Anyone see the thread a few days ago about maybe a lack of food during dieting triggers feelings of depression or sadness? This happens to me and gets worse as I continue to diet. As soon as I binge feelings of contentment and happiness immediately come...................then regret. But what if the binge trigger is also a chemical thing? Could there be a supplement that helps. Discuss.......

06-05-2007, 10:04 AM	#20
Karsen MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,396 Gallery: Karsen WOE: LC - LCMY-3/25/04 Start Date: 1/2/04-LC	Hi All! I lost here 3 yrs ago and have gained back... I was here when Kimmer was here. She would answer my questions & was really nice. She would even send me Private emails. Those pictures posted sure do not look like the Kimmer I remember. The 2nd picture looks more like her. (Her nose looks different!!) Back to the subject - - I eat - out of being bored, depressed, or maybe no willpower if the food is sweets.... Downfalls are sweets. And low periods are from late afternoon till bedtime. Since I have re-gained, I've tried lowfat - and other things, but stilll having the sweets - - I can't stick with it. I know low carb is the only way. When I have tried to get back on low carb I have not lasted but a couple 3 days. Before I lost 50 lbs and so did my husband. If I could only get him to do it with me again!!!! I know....why do I need him.....I need to do this for ME.......I've got to get this 50 back off and feel good physically and good about myself again!!! Thanks for starting this thread! Judy Care to share what your eating each day???

06-05-2007, 10:06 AM	#21
Karsen MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,396 Gallery: Karsen WOE: LC - LCMY-3/25/04 Start Date: 1/2/04-LC	Brilliant - - Oh, those sweets make me "feel good" at the time - - but afterwards I'm so depressed...because I did it again...

06-05-2007, 10:10 AM	#22
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	Karsen Call me slow, but I just learned how low calorie egg whites are.......and ohh so feeling. I lub eggs! B - 5 egg whites seasoned with chili-onion-garlic powder & salt (83 cals ), canned salmon L- canned salmon , diet Rasberry Tea d - 5 egg whites, one low carb/low fat protein drnki. All day - one pack of gum or 14 pcs. I am a gum-a-holic total cals should be under 900. Im in ketosis otherwise I would be starving. I using fitday.com to count cals, & protein and carbs.

06-05-2007, 10:15 AM	#24
brilliant100 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Western, USA Posts: 2,444 Gallery: brilliant100 Stats: 266/194/169 WOE: Atkins/M&E Feast, Lower fat & Lower calorie Start Date: restarted 6/1/05 M/E, back on the wagon 8-21-07	When I binging on carbs.............i do embarrasing things 1. Hit one or two fast food drive thrus on my way home from work 2. Eat entire boxes or packages of sweets, carb fog, then do it again when the fog lifts. The entire time, my clothes get tigher and tigher and feel more and more depressed. Its hel!.