1972 Atkin's plan by the book - Page 10

BellaHMB · 02-26-2007, 09:19 AM

Hi Cheryl,

Yea, Im looking at it as 5 pound losses every few weeks. I already had to buy new workout clothes! What I saw with your chart was that even though there were a few times not much came off for a few weeks, that over time
the weight continued to drop! So you are a big inspiration

HUGS!

Bella

vessel of prayer · 02-26-2007, 05:44 PM

Cherly or anyone who can answer. Today is day 3 and I feel weak. Is that normal? I have just getting over a bad cold so that might have something to do with it. But I would like to get back to exercising. Weigh in is in the morn. Cant wait. Thanks. And yes, I drink lots of water and fluids.

BellaHMB · 02-26-2007, 06:30 PM

I had a really low energy week during my 5th week and my dh suggested maybe I was detoxing...Im not sure if that was true, but now I feel fine.
I also take vitamins- would that be helpful?

Bella

vessel of prayer · 02-26-2007, 06:37 PM

yes I guess I could use some vitamins, but it seems when I take them I get so hungry. ?? Ok, maybe I am detoxing. Thanks I didnt think about that. I will keep plugging along!! I did add salt, and lite salt(potassium) thinking that might help too. Thanks for the help!

kristinaInWa2003 · 02-26-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Hi Diana: Don't worry about exercising right now. In fact exercise increases insulin and insulin increases appetite. Wait until you've lost your weight or are closer to goal. That is what my doctor told me. I know some people disagree but I followed what my doc told me. Good luck and keep us posted.

I'm confused. I thought they told diabetics to exercise along with the weight loss, that it decreased your need to inject insulin. (?)

kristinaInWa2003 · 02-26-2007, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptureready1953

Cherly or anyone who can answer. Today is day 3 and I feel weak. Is that normal? I have just getting over a bad cold so that might have something to do with it. But I would like to get back to exercising. Weigh in is in the morn. Cant wait. Thanks. And yes, I drink lots of water and fluids.

I felt like that right before the ketosis really kicked in strong. As you go along, you should get more energy

Good luck on the weigh in!

DianaLee · 02-26-2007, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

Hi Diana: Don't worry about exercising right now. In fact exercise increases insulin and insulin increases appetite. Wait until you've lost your weight or are closer to goal. That is what my doctor told me. I know some people disagree but I followed what my doc told me. Good luck and keep us posted.

ok, thanks, i will keep that in mind..........i am pretty active anyways........hope your day was good and thanks for the inspirations in all your posts

ixtapacheryl · 02-27-2007, 07:37 AM

Raptureready: It is normal to feel like crap for a few days to a week after starting induction. It generally lasts 3 days for me but when I am in ketosis - I get sick to my stomach - have no appetite.

Bella: I'm glad you are doing the 5# increments. Yes I agree - there were days and a weeks where I lost nothing or just a few pounds, but collectively it still came off. Keep a spreadsheet - you won't believe how often you will refer to it.

Everyone - KUTGW ...... summer is right around the corner!

vessel of prayer · 02-27-2007, 07:49 AM

thanks gang

I have only been on A 72 for four days, today being the beginning of day 4. I have lost a total of 5 pounds. (today is my official weigh in day) I am so thrilled. I dont care if it is only water. Its the first time I ever lost that much weight at one time. Now I know why I felt so yucky. Thanks Cheryl and everyone.

last week weight: 148.4 : this weeks 143.4 !!!!!

BellaHMB · 02-27-2007, 09:50 AM

Good morning!

Today starts week 7 for me and I am down 26 pounds. Wow. I couldnt ask for better results!

Cheryl, I printed out your spreadsheet and also made one for me! I do refer to it often

Sheila, WTG!

5 pounds down is 5 down! Who knows what it was, but it's not there now! So you enjoy your mioment.

I think it really helps to have short term goals like joining a challenge group or 5 pounds per goal. That way you can keep focused and not become discouraged. I participate in several online groups and love em!

Have a great day everyone!
Bella

marmoura · 02-28-2007, 08:23 AM

Hi Everyone,

I apologize in advance for the long email.

I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Mary - 25 and started off at about 187lbs.

I tried Atkins (the new diet revolution) a couple of years and I lost a lot of weight. I don't really like the scale, so I didn't really monitor myself - but I just shrank and some people couldn't believe their eyes. Especially Atkins bashers - anyway, this time around, when I began late January, I noticed that the weight was not coming off as quickly although I was much more strict. I even stopped using all the Atkins products (bars, mixes..etc.)

The last time I checked, which was about 10 days ago, I had lost 10lbs after 3.5 weeks - but have chosen to stay off the scales since then because TOM was approaching and I didn't want to give myself a heart attack if I had "gained"

Well, today TOM finally showed up (he was late) so I am going to wait until next Wednesday (my weigh in day) to see if I've lost more weight. grr..I better!

On the (new) Atkins Induction, I've been eating things like:

Chicken ceasar salads (sans croutans)
House salads with italian dressing
Bacon, Eggs (not often - not a big fan)
Chicken
Different Meats, including steaks, kabobs, lamb...etc
Stir-fry vegetables (mostly broccoli with a tad of onion and celery)
Deep fried (unbreaded) chicken wings
Taco salads
Cheese strings (about 2/day)...or some wax cheese (Asiago) or aged Cheddar.
Avocado (every other day a small one)
Shellfish (shrimp and muscles)
Sour Cream
SF Jello
SF Gum (no candy)
Coffee / herbal tea with 1 sweetner and a drop of cream
Diet Cream Soda

Now - it's been 3 days, but I've finally completed reading all your posts on this thread and I have to say - on the days I used to follow what I didn't realize was the '72 plan, I felt much better. So, I've decided that I will adopt this version instead.

Although cutting out the veggies will be hard because it has helped me thus far, I am more interested in losing the weight than eating the broccoli.

I'm sorry if this has been answered already, but would you clairify a few things for me again? This is what I have understoond so far:

1 - All protein allowed: does not have to be lean and can be cooked with oil
2 - Cheese - should be the kind with wax around it...Therefore no cheese strings or parmesan allowed - even if the carb count is 1??? (This point is extremely important for me to understand because I enjoy Chicken parmesan a lot and was wondering if I should cut that out)
3 - No veggies of any kind (at first) except the 2 allowed salads per day. (Also another important one for me)
4 - Sour cream/Heavy Cream to the amount allowed
5 - SF Jello and Gum allowed
6 - I eat out a lot, so, is non-breaded protein from restaurants allowed as well as long as its not cooked in a sugary sauce?
7- I love my avocados, but those have to go too, right?

I think that's all for now. Again, I'm soo sorry for the long email..I had questions along the way while reading your posts - but thought it wise to leave it all to be answered at once.

I am so proud of you all - in particular Cheryl, Bella, and AmandaJean. You 3 have been real inspirations to me - and I too know that I can do it too!!

I have about 40 more pounds to go - and would love to get them off before the summer.

Love, Mary

ixtapacheryl · 02-28-2007, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptureready1953

thanks gang

I have only been on A 72 for four days, today being the beginning of day 4. I have lost a total of 5 pounds. (today is my official weigh in day) I am so thrilled. I dont care if it is only water. Its the first time I ever lost that much weight at one time. Now I know why I felt so yucky. Thanks Cheryl and everyone.

last week weight: 148.4 : this weeks 143.4 !!!!!

I AM SOOOOOOO HAPPY FOR YOU! It really works. Keep us posted - you are definitely an inspiration to all of us.

ixtapacheryl · 02-28-2007, 11:24 AM

Oh Bella - I am so happy to hear about the loss. You are doing so well ...... keep up your great work and post often. We are all so hyped.

ixtapacheryl · 02-28-2007, 11:29 AM

1 - All protein allowed: does not have to be lean and can be cooked with oil - CORRECT!!!!
2 - Cheese - should be the kind with wax around it...Therefore no cheese strings or parmesan allowed - even if the carb count is 1??? (This point is extremely important for me to understand because I enjoy Chicken parmesan a lot and was wondering if I should cut that out) I USED PARMESAN CHEESE ALL THE TIME AND HAD NO PROBLEM WITH WEIGHT LOSS.
3 - No veggies of any kind (at first) except the 2 allowed salads per day. (Also another important one for me) I DIDN'T EAT VEGGIES UNTIL I GOT CLOSER TO GOAL.
4 - Sour cream/Heavy Cream to the amount allowed OK
5 - SF Jello and Gum allowed OK
6 - I eat out a lot, so, is non-breaded protein from restaurants allowed as well as long as its not cooked in a sugary sauce? I GENERALLY EAT HAMBURGERS/STEAK/PORK (non breaded)
7- I love my avocados, but those have to go too, right? NOPE until you get real close to goal

marmoura · 02-28-2007, 11:40 AM

Hi Cheryl,

Thanks for taking the time to get back to me.

I know my post must have been a lot...

I knew avocados were too good to be true....I'll have to wait until I get closer to goal then...sigh

At least its good to know that I don't have to worry about trimming all the fat in order for my protein to be lean...that little bit makes it taste better.

Any ideas about tomato sauce? or is that off limits too because its made from "tomato" ?

Now for all the ladies - Do you notice that TOM is extremely heavy when doing whatever version of Atkins? I have never before experienced this much in my life - and it worried me a bit, but figured since this is just the first month - my body is just adjusting.

Thanks again !!

ixtapacheryl · 02-28-2007, 11:54 AM

Tomatoes - NO go!

You'll end up making yourself like mustard and horseradish!

vessel of prayer · 02-28-2007, 03:25 PM

my horseradish has the ingred. SUGAR in it. I could not believe it. GOSH

Yolande · 02-28-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

7- I love my avocados, but those have to go too, right? NOPE until you get real close to goal
__________________

...this means that you can have them right?

marmoura · 03-01-2007, 06:12 AM

Hey Yolande,

No - I don't think she meant that you can eat the avocados. I too at first had to re-read the statement as she answered "Nope" to "but those have to go too, right?"

She really means, NOPE! THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED!!

I know its a bummer.

I wonder if sugar free Ketchup and Soy Sauce are allowed

6in2007 · 03-01-2007, 11:30 AM

I have a quick ? please. I found a 1973 version on ebay. Should that version be very different?

6in2007 · 03-01-2007, 12:37 PM

Disregard my above ? I found the right version! Yeah!

Angie66 · 03-01-2007, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmoura

Now for all the ladies - Do you notice that TOM is extremely heavy when doing whatever version of Atkins? I have never before experienced this much in my life - and it worried me a bit, but figured since this is just the first month - my body is just adjusting.

Thanks again !!

My TOM this month was heavier than usual. Since this is my first TOM since restarting the diet, it will take another month or two to determine if the diet is to blame. I've heard the opposite is also true while using the diet - no TOM at all for the first month or so.

silkhair1 · 03-02-2007, 05:27 AM

Can we ever have avacado? I really like it in my salad and I was wondering if it a no no now? Thanks, Sue

silkhair1 · 03-02-2007, 05:30 AM

Hi, New here (just found you guys yesterday) and I was wondering if I can have beef sticks (0 carbs) cream cheese with splenda and Da Vinci 0 carb syrup, heavy cream with spenda, cheddar cheese, and sugar free jello? Will these throw off ketosis? Do I need the strips to check that daily? Can I eat too much on the woe? This is my 5th day on induction, but I have had the foods listed above with other meats and some squash and asparagus. I am wondering what you think. Thanks, Sue

I thought I would post this here too. Is the 1973 copy the same book?

ixtapacheryl · 03-02-2007, 06:47 AM

You girls guessed it right - NO to the avacados until closer to goal.... Sorry - I love them as well!

marmoura · 03-02-2007, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silkhair1

Hi, New here (just found you guys yesterday) and I was wondering if I can have beef sticks (0 carbs) cream cheese with splenda and Da Vinci 0 carb syrup, heavy cream with spenda, cheddar cheese, and sugar free jello? Will these throw off ketosis? Do I need the strips to check that daily? Can I eat too much on the woe? This is my 5th day on induction, but I have had the foods listed above with other meats and some squash and asparagus. I am wondering what you think. Thanks, Sue

I thought I would post this here too. Is the 1973 copy the same book?

Hi Silkhair,

I think Cheryl mentioned no cream cheese/cheddar cheese, or veggies (except the allowed salad) until you get closer to goal.

Cheryl, would you like to comment?

02-27-2007, 09:50 AM	#280
BellaHMB Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Coast Posts: 3,144 Gallery: BellaHMB Stats: 210/136/150 original goal met 5.27.07 WOE: Maintenance Atkins Start Date: 1-16-07	Good morning! Today starts week 7 for me and I am down 26 pounds. Wow. I couldnt ask for better results! Cheryl, I printed out your spreadsheet and also made one for me! I do refer to it often Sheila, WTG! 5 pounds down is 5 down! Who knows what it was, but it's not there now! So you enjoy your mioment. I think it really helps to have short term goals like joining a challenge group or 5 pounds per goal. That way you can keep focused and not become discouraged. I participate in several online groups and love em! Have a great day everyone! Bella __________________ Goal Met 5.26.2007! Bella's Life By the Sea Journal http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/sh...d.php?t=498528 My Before and After photos: http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slidesho...y=-d378t0&Ux=0

02-28-2007, 08:23 AM	#281
marmoura Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 96 Gallery: marmoura Stats: 187/173/135 (5"7 / 25) WOE: Atkins Start Date: Jan 24/07	Newbie Hi Everyone, I apologize in advance for the long email. I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Mary - 25 and started off at about 187lbs. I tried Atkins (the new diet revolution) a couple of years and I lost a lot of weight. I don't really like the scale, so I didn't really monitor myself - but I just shrank and some people couldn't believe their eyes. Especially Atkins bashers - anyway, this time around, when I began late January, I noticed that the weight was not coming off as quickly although I was much more strict. I even stopped using all the Atkins products (bars, mixes..etc.) The last time I checked, which was about 10 days ago, I had lost 10lbs after 3.5 weeks - but have chosen to stay off the scales since then because TOM was approaching and I didn't want to give myself a heart attack if I had "gained" Well, today TOM finally showed up (he was late) so I am going to wait until next Wednesday (my weigh in day) to see if I've lost more weight. grr..I better! On the (new) Atkins Induction, I've been eating things like: Chicken ceasar salads (sans croutans) House salads with italian dressing Bacon, Eggs (not often - not a big fan) Chicken Different Meats, including steaks, kabobs, lamb...etc Stir-fry vegetables (mostly broccoli with a tad of onion and celery) Deep fried (unbreaded) chicken wings Taco salads Cheese strings (about 2/day)...or some wax cheese (Asiago) or aged Cheddar. Avocado (every other day a small one) Shellfish (shrimp and muscles) Sour Cream SF Jello SF Gum (no candy) Coffee / herbal tea with 1 sweetner and a drop of cream Diet Cream Soda Now - it's been 3 days, but I've finally completed reading all your posts on this thread and I have to say - on the days I used to follow what I didn't realize was the '72 plan, I felt much better. So, I've decided that I will adopt this version instead. Although cutting out the veggies will be hard because it has helped me thus far, I am more interested in losing the weight than eating the broccoli. I'm sorry if this has been answered already, but would you clairify a few things for me again? This is what I have understoond so far: 1 - All protein allowed: does not have to be lean and can be cooked with oil 2 - Cheese - should be the kind with wax around it...Therefore no cheese strings or parmesan allowed - even if the carb count is 1??? (This point is extremely important for me to understand because I enjoy Chicken parmesan a lot and was wondering if I should cut that out) 3 - No veggies of any kind (at first) except the 2 allowed salads per day. (Also another important one for me) 4 - Sour cream/Heavy Cream to the amount allowed 5 - SF Jello and Gum allowed 6 - I eat out a lot, so, is non-breaded protein from restaurants allowed as well as long as its not cooked in a sugary sauce? 7- I love my avocados, but those have to go too, right? I think that's all for now. Again, I'm soo sorry for the long email..I had questions along the way while reading your posts - but thought it wise to leave it all to be answered at once. I am so proud of you all - in particular Cheryl, Bella, and AmandaJean. You 3 have been real inspirations to me - and I too know that I can do it too!! I have about 40 more pounds to go - and would love to get them off before the summer. Love, Mary __________________ mary Last edited by marmoura : 02-28-2007 at 08:31 AM.

02-28-2007, 11:29 AM	#284
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,907 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/147/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	1 - All protein allowed: does not have to be lean and can be cooked with oil - CORRECT!!!! 2 - Cheese - should be the kind with wax around it...Therefore no cheese strings or parmesan allowed - even if the carb count is 1??? (This point is extremely important for me to understand because I enjoy Chicken parmesan a lot and was wondering if I should cut that out) I USED PARMESAN CHEESE ALL THE TIME AND HAD NO PROBLEM WITH WEIGHT LOSS. 3 - No veggies of any kind (at first) except the 2 allowed salads per day. (Also another important one for me) I DIDN'T EAT VEGGIES UNTIL I GOT CLOSER TO GOAL. 4 - Sour cream/Heavy Cream to the amount allowed OK 5 - SF Jello and Gum allowed OK 6 - I eat out a lot, so, is non-breaded protein from restaurants allowed as well as long as its not cooked in a sugary sauce? I GENERALLY EAT HAMBURGERS/STEAK/PORK (non breaded) 7- I love my avocados, but those have to go too, right? NOPE until you get real close to goal __________________ "You will never find out what you can do until you do all you can to find out!" - John Maxwell

03-02-2007, 05:27 AM	#293
silkhair1 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Peotone, IL. Posts: 56 Gallery: silkhair1 WOE: Atkins	Avacado ever? Can we ever have avacado? I really like it in my salad and I was wondering if it a no no now? Thanks, Sue

02-26-2007, 09:19 AM	#271
BellaHMB Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Coast Posts: 3,144 Gallery: BellaHMB Stats: 210/136/150 original goal met 5.27.07 WOE: Maintenance Atkins Start Date: 1-16-07	Hi Cheryl, Yea, Im looking at it as 5 pound losses every few weeks. I already had to buy new workout clothes! What I saw with your chart was that even though there were a few times not much came off for a few weeks, that over time the weight continued to drop! So you are a big inspiration HUGS! Bella

02-26-2007, 05:44 PM	#272
vessel of prayer Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NW FL Panhandle but wish I was where there is SNOW Posts: 9,613 Gallery: vessel of prayer Stats: 186/155/143 -will get to 130 5'3" WOE: Rosedale-8/23/08 Start Date: 09/10/2005	Cherly or anyone who can answer. Today is day 3 and I feel weak. Is that normal? I have just getting over a bad cold so that might have something to do with it. But I would like to get back to exercising. Weigh in is in the morn. Cant wait. Thanks. And yes, I drink lots of water and fluids.

02-26-2007, 06:30 PM	#273
BellaHMB Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Coast Posts: 3,144 Gallery: BellaHMB Stats: 210/136/150 original goal met 5.27.07 WOE: Maintenance Atkins Start Date: 1-16-07	I had a really low energy week during my 5th week and my dh suggested maybe I was detoxing...Im not sure if that was true, but now I feel fine. I also take vitamins- would that be helpful? Bella

02-26-2007, 06:37 PM	#274
vessel of prayer Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NW FL Panhandle but wish I was where there is SNOW Posts: 9,613 Gallery: vessel of prayer Stats: 186/155/143 -will get to 130 5'3" WOE: Rosedale-8/23/08 Start Date: 09/10/2005	yes I guess I could use some vitamins, but it seems when I take them I get so hungry. ?? Ok, maybe I am detoxing. Thanks I didnt think about that. I will keep plugging along!! I did add salt, and lite salt(potassium) thinking that might help too. Thanks for the help!

02-27-2007, 07:37 AM	#278
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,907 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/147/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	Raptureready: It is normal to feel like crap for a few days to a week after starting induction. It generally lasts 3 days for me but when I am in ketosis - I get sick to my stomach - have no appetite. Bella: I'm glad you are doing the 5# increments. Yes I agree - there were days and a weeks where I lost nothing or just a few pounds, but collectively it still came off. Keep a spreadsheet - you won't believe how often you will refer to it. Everyone - KUTGW ...... summer is right around the corner!

02-27-2007, 07:49 AM	#279
vessel of prayer Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NW FL Panhandle but wish I was where there is SNOW Posts: 9,613 Gallery: vessel of prayer Stats: 186/155/143 -will get to 130 5'3" WOE: Rosedale-8/23/08 Start Date: 09/10/2005	thanks gang I have only been on A 72 for four days, today being the beginning of day 4. I have lost a total of 5 pounds. (today is my official weigh in day) I am so thrilled. I dont care if it is only water. Its the first time I ever lost that much weight at one time. Now I know why I felt so yucky. Thanks Cheryl and everyone. last week weight: 148.4 : this weeks 143.4 !!!!!

02-28-2007, 11:24 AM	#283
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,907 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/147/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	Oh Bella - I am so happy to hear about the loss. You are doing so well ...... keep up your great work and post often. We are all so hyped.

02-28-2007, 11:40 AM	#285
marmoura Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 96 Gallery: marmoura Stats: 187/173/135 (5"7 / 25) WOE: Atkins Start Date: Jan 24/07	Hi Cheryl, Thanks for taking the time to get back to me. I know my post must have been a lot... I knew avocados were too good to be true....I'll have to wait until I get closer to goal then...sigh At least its good to know that I don't have to worry about trimming all the fat in order for my protein to be lean...that little bit makes it taste better. Any ideas about tomato sauce? or is that off limits too because its made from "tomato" ? Now for all the ladies - Do you notice that TOM is extremely heavy when doing whatever version of Atkins? I have never before experienced this much in my life - and it worried me a bit, but figured since this is just the first month - my body is just adjusting. Thanks again !!

02-28-2007, 11:54 AM	#286
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,907 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/147/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	Tomatoes - NO go! You'll end up making yourself like mustard and horseradish!

02-28-2007, 03:25 PM	#287
vessel of prayer Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NW FL Panhandle but wish I was where there is SNOW Posts: 9,613 Gallery: vessel of prayer Stats: 186/155/143 -will get to 130 5'3" WOE: Rosedale-8/23/08 Start Date: 09/10/2005	my horseradish has the ingred. SUGAR in it. I could not believe it. GOSH

03-01-2007, 06:12 AM	#289
marmoura Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 96 Gallery: marmoura Stats: 187/173/135 (5"7 / 25) WOE: Atkins Start Date: Jan 24/07	Hey Yolande, No - I don't think she meant that you can eat the avocados. I too at first had to re-read the statement as she answered "Nope" to "but those have to go too, right?" She really means, NOPE! THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED!! I know its a bummer. I wonder if sugar free Ketchup and Soy Sauce are allowed

03-01-2007, 11:30 AM	#290
6in2007 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 928 Gallery: 6in2007 Stats: 18/9/06	I have a quick ? please. I found a 1973 version on ebay. Should that version be very different?

03-01-2007, 12:37 PM	#291
6in2007 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 928 Gallery: 6in2007 Stats: 18/9/06	Disregard my above ? I found the right version! Yeah!

03-02-2007, 05:30 AM	#294
silkhair1 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Peotone, IL. Posts: 56 Gallery: silkhair1 WOE: Atkins	Hi, New here (just found you guys yesterday) and I was wondering if I can have beef sticks (0 carbs) cream cheese with splenda and Da Vinci 0 carb syrup, heavy cream with spenda, cheddar cheese, and sugar free jello? Will these throw off ketosis? Do I need the strips to check that daily? Can I eat too much on the woe? This is my 5th day on induction, but I have had the foods listed above with other meats and some squash and asparagus. I am wondering what you think. Thanks, Sue I thought I would post this here too. Is the 1973 copy the same book?

03-02-2007, 06:47 AM	#295
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,907 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/147/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	You girls guessed it right - NO to the avacados until closer to goal.... Sorry - I love them as well!