1972 Atkin's plan by the book - Page 7

BellaHMB · 01-26-2007, 09:20 PM

Hi Jenn,
Yes, actually today I was able to fit into a size 14 generously cut pants that I had set aside for monitering my loss. When I was at goal before at 150, I was wearing a 10-12 bottom and 8-10 top (Im 5 ft. 7). I think paying attention to clothing loosening is yet another perk!

Good luck!
Bella

leeney · 01-27-2007, 01:32 AM

Hi girls,

I've been browsing your thread here. I wanted to ask ixtapactyl, could you recommend a good multi-vitamin? What kind do you take?
Thanks!

leeney · 01-27-2007, 01:34 AM

Oops. sorry, might make ya feel better if I got you name right, eh? hee.
ixtapacheryl

kalp · 01-27-2007, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

Carol: Are you drinking enough liquids. A lot of times a sign of water retention is that your body is trying to hold on to liquids because it is dehydrated. I'll try to find the article regarding that.

I eat Ballpark franks - only 2 a day is allowed. I also eat Genoa Salami. I'm not much of a lunch meat eater.

Please Carol - don't despair. Try to get rid of the water retention. Have you tried SF Nestea ice tea - that sure makes me run to the bathroom. Also are you constipated? I am sure once you get this problem solved - you will definitely see a drop on the scale.

Thank you for taking time for me. Water I think I drink enough? I will measure my amounts and try to get in 1/2 of my body weight = 104 oz.
I was down with myself last night so I had "2" Atkin Bars

and it knock me out of ketosis. Bathroom problem yes! I drink the Super Diet Tea once a week and that does make everything move.

So today Saturday I will start fresh: I will try to follow the diet from your DR.
Does my meat need to be lean only? or can ground beef be reg.,chicken light or dark meat with or with out skin?

Would this be a good basic day of food?
(1) 4 p bacon, 2 eggs, can tuna with mayo.,HB eggs, fried hamburgers with mayo.
(2) small steak, 2 eggs, chicken legs rositated, HB eggs, ham, pork steak.
Maybe in the evening : some sugar free jello & whip topping or Diet coke & run

ixtapacheryl · 01-27-2007, 08:37 AM

Oh well - bars last night? Ok - I'm glad you got that out of your system. See how fast it can knock you out of ketosis. Everytime you do that you lose 3 days of your diet - so that idea in the back of your mind will stop you the next time....

I ate hamburger, roasts, chicken w/skin on. I never worried about it being lean. Watch the mayo though - remember only 2T per day and it can't be miracle whip. I don't like dark meat so ate the white. I also love pork - but not seafood. I hate seafood and fish. Quite frankly don't know the difference between those two - they all come from water.

Just stick with this ...... your menu looks great! Remember - you can eat as much as you want per day - until you are satisfied.

ixtapacheryl · 01-27-2007, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeney

Hi girls,

I've been browsing your thread here. I wanted to ask ixtapactyl, could you recommend a good multi-vitamin? What kind do you take?
Thanks!

I just look at the bottle to make sure it has minerals - it should say so on the front of the label. I use to take Myadec (sp?) - but they were brown in color and I get sick to my stomach with that coating. You could ask the drugist at Walmart or Walgreens - what he recommends. I generally look for the stuff on sale.

ixtapacheryl · 01-27-2007, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdouglass

Can I ask you another quick question? About when did you start to notice a difference in clothing? I"m just wondering when I should start paying attention to how my clothes feel and if I'm losing any inches. If things aren't happening when they should, I want to know when to start changing things if necessary.

At 183# I was wearing size 14's - and I really should have been wearing size 16's..... They were older Liz C. shorts - so it was before vanity sizing.

It took a larger weight loss to go down a size when I was heavier - but the closer I got to goal the sizes dropped faster (if that makes sense to you). I just wore all my old clothes until they were falling off of me. I then bought size 10's when I was in the 140's-150's and by the time I got into the 130's the sizes dropped about 2 sizes - into 6-8's. When I got down to 126# I could get into some 4's. Strange!

jdouglass · 01-27-2007, 10:53 AM

Hi Cheryl,

Thank you so much for your answers and thoughts...it means a lot!

I have a question...how much do you think I could reasonably lose from now until May 4 which is exactly 14 weeks away (3 1/2 months). I weigh somewhere around 185, haven't weighed in about a week. I am wearing a tight 14 (aack!) but would like to get in to an 8 or 6 by then. Is it possible? I'm planning to do at least 5-6 days worth of exercise each week.

Menu today:

Brunch: 2 eggs, 2 slices of bacon
S: 1 egg w/ mayo
D: pork tenderloin, small salad w/vinegarette
S: if necessary, tea w/ cream or slice of cheddar

How's that look?

Off to do my exercise video!

ixtapacheryl · 01-27-2007, 11:13 AM

I definitely think you can do this: Here is the spreadsheet I did on my loss last year. Your menu looks fantastic.

3/1/2006 183
3/6/2006 177
3/11/2006 175
3/17 178
3/31 172
4/9 169
4/13 167
5/8 161
5/11 162
5/14 159
5/15 157
5/20 151
6/3 153
6/6 150
6/13 149
6/16 147
6/27 146
6/28 145
7/5 144
7/9 142
7/15 141
7/18 139
7/19 138
7/22 141
7/24 138
7/27 137
7/28 136
7/30 135
8/1 134
8/3 135
8/10 138
8/11 135
8/13 133
8/16 131
8/17 130
8/23 129
8/30 128
9/9 126

leeney · 01-27-2007, 12:27 PM

Thanks for all the information, Cheryl! You're helping more people than you know!

And the fish question; at least in my book; fish is anything that has fins and a tail only--like tuna and cod. Seafood consists of all those creepy crawly things like lobster, crawfish, snails, shrimp, oysters--do they crawl? hee. There you go--fish food 101 class! I love the fish; can do without the creepy crawlies.

ixtapacheryl · 01-27-2007, 03:32 PM

Thank you for the info on the creatures below the water..... I know you can have any seafood except "shell" seafood. Also no organ meat (liver, kidneys)...

I don't even know if people eat kidneys - but it sounded good.

I hope all of you are successful. I do know that it works - if you stick to plan. Exercise is NOT needed which was music to my ears. I don't mind walking - but have never been atheletic outside of golf and that's not strenuous.

Have a great Sunday - and stick to the plan. Remember, if you cheat you've backtracked by three days.

BellaHMB · 01-27-2007, 04:33 PM

Does anyone know if psyllium or flax meal is likely to cause a problem with my daily carb intake? Dr. A says it doesnt count but I wonder what others experiences are? Thanks~

Bella

jdouglass · 01-27-2007, 08:35 PM

You know Bella, I would love to find out that answer as well! I was at the store tonight and saw some flax meal. I thought of a hot cereal someone once posted about with flax meal, egg, cream, splenda. Sounded so nice during this cold winter time!

I wonder!

Cheryl, what does our expert think?

kalp · 01-27-2007, 08:37 PM

Cheryl, Thanks again for your wisdom on LC eating.
I feel better already.

Today went very well my menu:
Pork chop, HB egg, went out for supper I just had steak, this evening I had sugar fee jello with a little redi whip on top. My water intake was good.

My stick this evening turned to the lights shade of pink.
I'm drink my tea right now so maybe tomorrow I will have some luck in the bathroom.
Also tomorrow is my weigh in day, here is hoping for a loss.

ixtapacheryl · 01-28-2007, 07:08 AM

Kalp: Maybe the "light pink" was caused by the whipping cream.

How much did you have?

I'm so glad you are feeling much better and before you know it - you will be at goal. Just believe in yourself and that this works.....

I've never had flax or the psylum - don't even know what that is. I'll do a search and let you know what I find. Why do you want to have that?

ixtapacheryl · 01-28-2007, 07:16 AM

Psyllium has 8 grams of carbs in 1 T. (It is a grain)
Flax - 6 grams in 2.5 T

kalp · 01-28-2007, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

Kalp: Maybe the "light pink" was caused by the whipping cream.

How much did you have?

I'm so glad you are feeling much better and before you know it - you will be at goal. Just believe in yourself and that this works.....

I didn't think about the whipping cream

I had just a small, amount in my eye's it was small.
My tea did work for me, the morning bathroom visit was ok

I lost 1 lb, from yesterday, which is also 1 lb for the whole week.

I hope you don't mind I have posted the diet from your Dr. on my ref. and it does have your picture on it. So it's like your watching me in the kitchen so I will think twice before I grab something I should not be having.

BellaHMB · 01-28-2007, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

Psyllium has 8 grams of carbs in 1 T. (It is a grain)
Flax - 6 grams in 2.5 T

Yes, thanks. I added 1/2 cup spinach cooked and 1/4 cup mushrooms yesterday plus put flax on my salad (1 T) and it cured my constipation problem

In Dr. A's book he says that neither psyllium nor flax act as a carb, but Im adding the flax and counting it anyway. I also cut our cheese yesterday.

Im now ending week two, so its probably good to add in the veggies anyway.
My carb count was 13 for the day which included veggies and salad stuff
and no cheats. (with 5 grams of fiber). I guess I will see if I keep losing which I should.

Any feedback is welcome!

Bella aka Victoria

ixtapacheryl · 01-28-2007, 10:22 AM

You are so funny - my picture on your refrig. Hey why not post it on the inside of the refrigerator....

Where in Wisconsin are you located? I use to live in Delafield in the '90's before moving to Florida. I lived right next door to the golf course on the west side of Pewaukee Lake.

Your weight should start dropping more drastically this coming week...... Don't give up hope!

ixtapacheryl · 01-28-2007, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

Yes, thanks. I added 1/2 cup spinach cooked and 1/4 cup mushrooms yesterday plus put flax on my salad (1 T) and it cured my constipation problem

In Dr. A's book he says that neither psyllium nor flax act as a carb, but Im adding the flax and counting it anyway. I also cut our cheese yesterday.

Im now ending week two, so its probably good to add in the veggies anyway.
My carb count was 13 for the day which included veggies and salad stuff
and no cheats. (with 5 grams of fiber). I guess I will see if I keep losing which I should.

Any feedback is welcome!

Bella aka Victoria

Bella: I'm glad the bathroom issue has been solved. Cheese always makes me retain fluid - thus less loss on the scale. 13 grams are great - you are doing so well.

BellaHMB · 01-28-2007, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

Bella: I'm glad the bathroom issue has been solved. Cheese always makes me retain fluid - thus less loss on the scale. 13 grams are great - you are doing so well.

Me too! You are such an inspiration and very generous with your time
and comments Cheryl. Tell me, what is the significance of Ixtapa? I thought perhaps your beautiful photos were taken there.... I was a teacher on cruises both in the Western and Eastern Caribbean- I did low carb while on it and only gained 3 pounds

I agree about the cheese. Actually Im also cutting back on cream and using it only in my initial cup of coffee in the morning. If I have one later, Im drinking it black. Dont want to waste those precious carbs!

Bella

kalp · 01-28-2007, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

You are so funny - my picture on your refrig. Hey why not post it on the inside of the refrigerator....

Where in Wisconsin are you located? I use to live in Delafield in the '90's before moving to Florida. I lived right next door to the golf course on the west side of Pewaukee Lake.

Your weight should start dropping more drastically this coming week...... Don't give up hope!

I live futher north, locating north of Stevens Point.
Wait I may have to frame you and put you on my desk at work, I will do what ever it takes to be a losser.

amandajean · 01-28-2007, 04:22 PM

Could someone tell me the best way for me to get fibre and still stay low-carb? I know I need fibre because I am not regular... what about metamucil or benefibre?

BellaHMB · 01-28-2007, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amandajean

Could someone tell me the best way for me to get fiber and still stay low-carb? I know I need fibre because I am not regular... what about metamucil or benefibre?

I just started using flax seed, about 1-2 T per day. You can sprinkle it on your salad or veggies. It has some carbs but Atkins says there are
negligible

Helped me alot, and also drink water!

Bella

amandajean · 01-28-2007, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

I just started using flax seed, about 1-2 T per day. You can sprinkle it on your salad or veggies. It has some carbs but Atkins says there are
negligible

Helped me alot, and also drink water!

Bella

Bella,

Thanks - I forgot about flax seed. I will get some tomorrow.

I do drink at least 2 litres of water a day.

01-27-2007, 08:37 AM	#185
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,896 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/150/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	Oh well - bars last night? Ok - I'm glad you got that out of your system. See how fast it can knock you out of ketosis. Everytime you do that you lose 3 days of your diet - so that idea in the back of your mind will stop you the next time.... I ate hamburger, roasts, chicken w/skin on. I never worried about it being lean. Watch the mayo though - remember only 2T per day and it can't be miracle whip. I don't like dark meat so ate the white. I also love pork - but not seafood. I hate seafood and fish. Quite frankly don't know the difference between those two - they all come from water. Just stick with this ...... your menu looks great! Remember - you can eat as much as you want per day - until you are satisfied. __________________ "You will never find out what you can do until you do all you can to find out!" - John Maxwell

01-27-2007, 10:53 AM	#188
jdouglass Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MA Posts: 370 Gallery: jdouglass Stats: 185/180/120 WOE: Atkins	Hi Cheryl, Thank you so much for your answers and thoughts...it means a lot! I have a question...how much do you think I could reasonably lose from now until May 4 which is exactly 14 weeks away (3 1/2 months). I weigh somewhere around 185, haven't weighed in about a week. I am wearing a tight 14 (aack!) but would like to get in to an 8 or 6 by then. Is it possible? I'm planning to do at least 5-6 days worth of exercise each week. Menu today: Brunch: 2 eggs, 2 slices of bacon S: 1 egg w/ mayo D: pork tenderloin, small salad w/vinegarette S: if necessary, tea w/ cream or slice of cheddar How's that look? Off to do my exercise video! __________________ Jenn

01-27-2007, 08:37 PM	#194
kalp Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 611 Gallery: kalp Stats: 222/174.5/145 = 5'5" WOE: "GI" Glycemic Index Diet Start Date: 12-01-2006/1-5-2008	Cheryl, Thanks again for your wisdom on LC eating. I feel better already. Today went very well my menu: Pork chop, HB egg, went out for supper I just had steak, this evening I had sugar fee jello with a little redi whip on top. My water intake was good. My stick this evening turned to the lights shade of pink. I'm drink my tea right now so maybe tomorrow I will have some luck in the bathroom. Also tomorrow is my weigh in day, here is hoping for a loss. Last edited by kalp : 01-27-2007 at 08:38 PM.

01-26-2007, 09:20 PM	#181
BellaHMB MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Coast Posts: 2,959 Gallery: BellaHMB Stats: 210/140/150 goal met 5.27.07 WOE: Maintenance Atkins-reinducted 7.21.08 for 2 weeks Start Date: 1-16-07	Hi Jenn, Yes, actually today I was able to fit into a size 14 generously cut pants that I had set aside for monitering my loss. When I was at goal before at 150, I was wearing a 10-12 bottom and 8-10 top (Im 5 ft. 7). I think paying attention to clothing loosening is yet another perk! Good luck! Bella

01-27-2007, 01:32 AM	#182
leeney Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 602 Gallery: leeney	Hi girls, I've been browsing your thread here. I wanted to ask ixtapactyl, could you recommend a good multi-vitamin? What kind do you take? Thanks!

01-27-2007, 01:34 AM	#183
leeney Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 602 Gallery: leeney	Oops. sorry, might make ya feel better if I got you name right, eh? hee. ixtapacheryl

01-27-2007, 11:13 AM	#189
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,896 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/150/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	I definitely think you can do this: Here is the spreadsheet I did on my loss last year. Your menu looks fantastic. 3/1/2006 183 3/6/2006 177 3/11/2006 175 3/17 178 3/31 172 4/9 169 4/13 167 5/8 161 5/11 162 5/14 159 5/15 157 5/20 151 6/3 153 6/6 150 6/13 149 6/16 147 6/27 146 6/28 145 7/5 144 7/9 142 7/15 141 7/18 139 7/19 138 7/22 141 7/24 138 7/27 137 7/28 136 7/30 135 8/1 134 8/3 135 8/10 138 8/11 135 8/13 133 8/16 131 8/17 130 8/23 129 8/30 128 9/9 126

01-27-2007, 12:27 PM	#190
leeney Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 602 Gallery: leeney	Thanks for all the information, Cheryl! You're helping more people than you know! And the fish question; at least in my book; fish is anything that has fins and a tail only--like tuna and cod. Seafood consists of all those creepy crawly things like lobster, crawfish, snails, shrimp, oysters--do they crawl? hee. There you go--fish food 101 class! I love the fish; can do without the creepy crawlies.

01-27-2007, 03:32 PM	#191
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,896 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/150/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	Thank you for the info on the creatures below the water..... I know you can have any seafood except "shell" seafood. Also no organ meat (liver, kidneys)... I don't even know if people eat kidneys - but it sounded good. I hope all of you are successful. I do know that it works - if you stick to plan. Exercise is NOT needed which was music to my ears. I don't mind walking - but have never been atheletic outside of golf and that's not strenuous. Have a great Sunday - and stick to the plan. Remember, if you cheat you've backtracked by three days.

01-27-2007, 04:33 PM	#192
BellaHMB MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Coast Posts: 2,959 Gallery: BellaHMB Stats: 210/140/150 goal met 5.27.07 WOE: Maintenance Atkins-reinducted 7.21.08 for 2 weeks Start Date: 1-16-07	Does anyone know if psyllium or flax meal is likely to cause a problem with my daily carb intake? Dr. A says it doesnt count but I wonder what others experiences are? Thanks~ Bella

01-27-2007, 08:35 PM	#193
jdouglass Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MA Posts: 370 Gallery: jdouglass Stats: 185/180/120 WOE: Atkins	You know Bella, I would love to find out that answer as well! I was at the store tonight and saw some flax meal. I thought of a hot cereal someone once posted about with flax meal, egg, cream, splenda. Sounded so nice during this cold winter time! I wonder! Cheryl, what does our expert think?

01-28-2007, 07:08 AM	#195
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,896 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/150/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	Kalp: Maybe the "light pink" was caused by the whipping cream. How much did you have? I'm so glad you are feeling much better and before you know it - you will be at goal. Just believe in yourself and that this works..... I've never had flax or the psylum - don't even know what that is. I'll do a search and let you know what I find. Why do you want to have that?

01-28-2007, 07:16 AM	#196
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,896 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/150/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	Psyllium has 8 grams of carbs in 1 T. (It is a grain) Flax - 6 grams in 2.5 T

01-28-2007, 10:22 AM	#199
ixtapacheryl Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 5,896 Gallery: ixtapacheryl Stats: 183/150/130-135 - 5'7.5" WOE: '72 Atkins	You are so funny - my picture on your refrig. Hey why not post it on the inside of the refrigerator.... Where in Wisconsin are you located? I use to live in Delafield in the '90's before moving to Florida. I lived right next door to the golf course on the west side of Pewaukee Lake. Your weight should start dropping more drastically this coming week...... Don't give up hope!

01-28-2007, 04:22 PM	#203
amandajean Guest Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 460 Gallery: amandajean	Could someone tell me the best way for me to get fibre and still stay low-carb? I know I need fibre because I am not regular... what about metamucil or benefibre?